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MA-Sen: Alan Khazei Enters the Race

by: DavidNYC

Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM EDT


Scott Brown gets a third challenger, and it's a familiar face:

Democratic activist Alan Khazei announced Tuesday that he will vie for his party's nomination to face Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown (R).

Khazei, co-founder of the non-profit group City Year, posted the announcement on his website and said he is holding a kickoff event in Boston.

"Today I'm announcing that I am an official candidate for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts in 2012," he wrote. "We have to grow our economy, create new jobs, and expand opportunity for the middle class. Together, we can do it."

Khazei, you may recall, also sought the Democratic nomination in 2009 in the special election to replace the late Sen. Ted Kennedy. He finished with an unimpressive 13%, refusing to accept PAC and lobbyist money. I guess he hasn't been actively fundraising yet this cycle, because his first quarter report showed him taking in only $2800. In any event, he joins activist Bob Massie and attorney Marisa DeFranco in a race which still (very noticeably) lacks a high-profile candidate. Khazei is the biggest name to enter so far, but Democratic power-brokers are undoubtedly still holding out for someone more prominent (and with more experience) to take on Brown, the most vulnerable Republican incumbent up for re-election next year.

It's still only April, but given how blue Massachusetts is, and the fact that Barack Obama will be at the top of the ticket, the lack of a top-tier candidate at this stage has a lot of people feeling like it's getting late early around here. You'd think someone big would want to jump in the race already, so why hasn't anyone? Hard to say, but we'll see if this state of affairs changes any time soon.

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Well, I guess it's better than nothing
Khazei really failed to impress in the special election, but then again, so did everyone's Great White Hope, Rep. Capuano. Maybe Khazei will learn from his Feingoldian errors this time around. He did get a couple of impressive endorsements.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

I thought he did pretty well
Since he was running against the well-funded sitting Attorney General and a prominent Congressman who had the backing of the Menino machine in Boston.  

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Personally I'd perfer Massie if there are no big names
I know were not supposed to advocate for candidates here, so I won't tell you why I don't like Khazei, but just rather that I feel a fresh face would be better.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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Fresh face?
The losing 1994 Dem nominee for Lt Gov?

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I've brought this up several times
But in 1978, two-term incumbent Edward Brooke lost to Paul Tsongas for little reason. It was a good year for Republicans, he was very moderate and had built up incumbency and good will, and still lost. Simply because Massachusetts is such a hard state for Republicans to win on a Federal level.

I actually have a feeling the establishment should quietly back Khazei; as he makes the best contrast to Brown. He's an eloquent outsider who is thus free from corruption issues or any frustrations voters may have with the party machines, and he can raise a lot of money from the progressive grassroots. Obama's coattails too will likely provide him a five point boost from wherever he's sitting in the polls.  


Well, that's actually why...
I actually have a feeling the establishment should quietly back Khazei; as he makes the best contrast to Brown. He's an eloquent outsider who is thus free from corruption issues or any frustrations voters may have with the party machines, and he can raise a lot of money from the progressive grassroots.

The Menino/Boston machine will NOT back Alan Khazei. They probably feel they can't control him, and therefore he's worthless to them. I heard plenty last year about how the Boston machine sat back and allowed Martha Coakley to self-destruct precisely because she wasn't their horse in the race. If Khazei is serious about winning this time, he will have to win the primary on his own merit and plan ahead to fight the Boston machine.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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You give Menino too much credit.
They didn't allow her to self destruct. The "machine" just couldn't comprehend a loss until it was too late...

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Agreed.
Martha Coakly's loss was entirely Martha Coakly's fault.

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Not completely true about Brooke, by the way.
He was involved in a messy divorce. From Wikipedia:

Most seriously, Brooke "confessed that he had made a false statement about his finances in his divorce deposition. The admission...erupted into a staccato of charges that ultimately cost him his Senate seat" to Paul Tsongas.


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Was that because of his affair with Barbara Walters?


21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Money, indies, polling, redistricting...
There are lots of reasons no one has jumped in yet. Brown has a ton of money. He's extremely popular with indies and even some Dems (apparently the ones who don't pay any attention to voting records). All the polling has him destroying all challengers. Plus, with MA losing a seat, one of them Dem reps will be out of a job, and I'm sure someone is thinking about coordinating the efforts to redistrict the state and identify a challenger from the 10 reps. Basically, whoever loses their seat is probably the Senate challenger. Obviously no one wants to talk about this out loud, if that's what's going on. I would bet money that a rep jumps in within minutes of an announcement about the redistricting.

I guess it's unlikely, but...
...I'm a big fan of my Rep, Mike Capuano. He ran and lost to Coakley last time around, and I'm not sure how keen I am on giving up his House seat, but I'd like to know what kind of chances he has once he gets some name recognition. If Brown is going to win again, I'd rather run an unabashed liberal against him than a wishy-washy moderate Dem.

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Capuano
I'd love to see Rep. Capuano run, I feel like he is the strongest candidate on the surprisingly weak democratic bench in a very blue state. Most other viable candidates are not interested, too old or not well known enough. The Massachusetts Democratic Party should be concerned with questions like "Who will suceed Deval?" Will they decide to go with other elected officials looking for promotions (and there arent many in MA) or a somewhat outsider like Deval was when he ran? Anyway, Capuano was a very candidate in the 2010 special election and he did not win because many democrats neglected to pay attention to the primary and he didnt have the time to get the word out about what the Somerville democrat was really like. Im not sure how much money he has in the bank but its either a lot or a little considering he hasnt had opposition outside the socialist party in years. I really like his campaign style with the use of town hall "open mikes" and if he were given a whole campaign, some money and a debate or two against Brown, he could beat him. Plus he had a slew of credible endorsements in the Dem Primary with Coakley

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The Massachusetts Democratic Party should be concerned with questions like "Who will suceed Deval?"
Thank God they are not, given that there is a deeper bench for that endeavor

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Whatever happened to Joe Kennedy???
I remember Joseph Kennedy III made a speech a few months back that raised a lot of applause and speculation. This guy seems like THE perfect candidate for a Senate seat-- intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate and driven.

I don't care about the last name, he just seemed like an amazingly attractive candidate.

30, dude seeing a dude (CA-04 raised, CA-05 home)


Wasn't that Ted Kennedy Jr.?
I remember some fuss about Ted Kennedy Jr. in Connecticut. Not even sure if was related to the senate race.

Male, 26, MA-08 (hometown MI-06). Independent progressive, Christian.

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Former Congressman
There was a lot of talk, but Joe decided not to run. There was renewed speculation this year among insiders when Joe began running more-than-normal advertisements for Joe-4-Oil...but Joe put that to bed.

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I say we draft him
Khazei is nothing to write home about, Massie hasn't caught fire at all, and who's that other person again?

I like Mayor Warren, but a race where a first-term mayor from a relatively small city is likely to be our top-shelf talent has a terrible reek to it. Let's get Kennedy the Third in the race.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


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Link to that speech
For those who want to watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

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He's a B-Lister at least...
Massie was a C-Lister, Setti Warren would be a C-Lister.  Still neither are going to beat Brown.  Chickenshit House Reps want to wait for the Kerry opening so they don't have to risk their House seat to run.  DSCC needs to make clear that the Dem candidate that challenges Brown is the candidate they'll back fully for the open Kerry seat if they lose to Brown.  

Patrick, Kennedy or Capuano would be the A-List.    


Have they not done something like that already?
That's the sort of threat the DSCC should be making: whichever candidate steps up to the plate for them gets their backing next time around, if the seat opens up.

At the same time, I can see why they are waiting. Would entering the race next February really be that late? In some ways, yes, but it's Massachusetts, and the Democrats want this seat back so sadly that the Democratic candidate just has to make it clear he's running before the donations fly in. Thus, I am still not worried. If we have a candidate by this August, that'll still leave four months left in just 2011 to start the necessary work to win.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Elections have a history of developing late here
Mitt Romney trailed until the fall in 2002, and Deval Patrick looked like he was going to lose the primary for a long time in 2006. Brown wasn't considered to have a chance at winning until about 2 weeks before election day. So a Democrat could get in next spring and still be fine if they can make up the fundraising gap, which will be tough.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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I think it's more important
for someone like Brown to have a fund raising advantage than it is for the Democrat to have the same given the state's natural lean. I think he knows the sort of struggle he has before him, which is why he wants to raise $25 million. But I see your point.

By the way, since I am all about being positive today, I have to say that you are one of my favorite posters here. I think you provide a lot of good information.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Seconded
I've said it before but MassGOP is simply the best Republican poster we have here IMO. I hope he sticks around given where we are headed.

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I doubt he'll be going to DKE


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Thanks, guys
I still think GOPVoter has the distinction of being Republican-in-chief around here, though!

As for the move, I don't know what I'm doing. I feel a lot more open to coming along now, after DavidNYC's post yesterday. I do enjoy the community here that I have no doubt will establish itself on the new site.

I have two concerns though: first, I'm an FPer at my own blog now, so I've been trying to wean myself off of commenting on other blogs. I try to limit my contributions here to MA or Republican-specific comments. Second, while SSP is pretty benign, DailyKos elicits a certain reaction from Republicans, so I'm not sure that having an active account there is a good idea for someone who may very well be looking for work on the Republican side of the political universe this time next year. So that's my dilemma.....

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


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All I would say is plenty of us have our own doubts
But hopefully in the same way you will at least give it a go. An echo chamber is no good for anything. Certainly David's advice regarding handles is probably a good idea. Your RRH name will probably be fine. I certainly pledge to support you over there if and when necessary.

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Having an active account won't hurt you. The only thing that can hurt you...
...is the substance of your comments if you say anything disparaging about your own party or too nice about the opposition.

It's easy enough to explain to interviewers why you would post on DK Elections.

You've already posted more comments than can be counted on SSP, and we're unabashadly partisan Democrats, so a DK account won't hurt you anymore than what you've already done, which frankly should be not at all.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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I think the big difference, though
Is that a lot more people have heard of Dkos than SSP.

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Not in professional politics, which is what MassGOP is talking about. (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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You can always cite "The Art of War"
In contrast, I think any serious D political strategist should at least monitor RedState/Free Republic. And it would be better for such strategists to maintain accounts on such sites as well.

If excellent R analysts like you are open to coming along to DKE, that's important to me. It encourages me to come along for the ride.


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Don't dis' GOPVOTER
He's great, too! :-)

I think MassGOP has already stated that he's going to try and move over and see how it goes.


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No dissin' from me
I just think MassGOP's analysis is a notch above.

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except
They all could have run in the special election last year without risking their House seats, too.

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and when it was viewed as waltzing into the Senate
if they won the primary.

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I'm really surprised nobody is jumping in
Even if Scott Brown will be tough to beat, running now would be the perfect way to build a statewide profile for a senate run if/when Kerry gets chosen for Sec of State. It just seems like if any of these people (Capuano, Kennedy, etc) wants to be a senator, running now would be a better move than waiting for a post-Kerry opening that may or may not come.

Male, VA-08

disagree about capuano
he already lost to coakley, losing to brown would mean 2 statewide losses in 3 years.

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

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Wow!
Does this mean Khazei won't be running for re-election in Afghanistan?

Seriously, I'm thinking Khazei is far from the best surname to lure blue collar catholics away from a Don Draper lookalike (I was going to say Bobby Kennedy, but not in MA where they remember what the Kennedys used to look like, not just the actors who have played them).

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


Actually, the President of Afghanistan is named Karzai


24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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It's supposed to be a joke.
Supposed to be, anyway.

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I did get it was supposed to be a joke
But it fell flat.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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it was just kind of racist, really
moreso than funny.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Racist?
Wow, I was just thinking it sounds much like someone we see on TV quite a bit, and not in a way you'd relate to a political campaign.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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agree


22, male, VA-10

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Racist
I can't say I see that - just because someone's name sounds the same as someone else's, it's racist to make a little joke about that?
I once made a joke about David Krikorian (who was running for OH-2) and pointed out the similar name to the famous suicide doctor and somebody actually accused me of being Anti-Armenian which was funny because I had no idea that either of them was Armenian much less both.  The only Armenian-American I knew of at that point was Cher.

43 - Male - GOP/Libertarian - FL 22

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I havent' looked it up
but I would assume that Khazei is jewish. Personally I don't care in the slightest, but I find the idea of having to convince guys with names like Shamus McCue and James Patrick O'Brien that "no Khazei is NOT the guy from Afghanistan", of course you'll also have to convince them that Scott Brown is NOT the guy you saw on SNL that's an actor...

I'm curious how many people confuse celebrities/politicans for the actors who play them on TV, I have to admit it's a shock to me that the Real Mohmar Quadaffi doesn't look like Fred Armison and Joe Biden doesn't really look like Jason Sudeikis.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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Catholic
Father is Iranian (hence the Karzai-sounding name), mother is Italian.

Male, 26, MA-08 (hometown MI-06). Independent progressive, Christian.

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Massachusetts voters elected and re-elected a guy named Deval
I don't think Khazei is a big deal in diverse Massachusetts, especially since his first name is Alan.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Hmmm
From below;

*[new] Or like in 2006
When Deval volunteers went to southie and encouraged people to vote for "Patrick Murray" for Governor...ya'know, because Deval Patrick's runningmate was Tim Murray.
Honestly, I bet this won him a few votes.
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by: Padeco @ Tue Apr 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM EDT
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"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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Also from below
Khazei actually made jokes about his name in an ad

He put a picture of himself between pictures of Jay-Z and a daisy to teach people how to pronounce his name in one of his introductory ads in 2009.



21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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I'm really not going to get into this
All I'm going to say is the issue is not comparing names, but rather "otherizing."

And that's as far as I go.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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And I think you're reading
way too much into it. Besides, "otherizing" as you put is more a matter of acknowledging the differences between peoples, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. But again, it was just a spur of moment quip. I hate it when people toss around words like racism for things no one has any right to get offended over. Then again, I also can't stand it when people are overly sensitive and thus overreact to things that are not detrimental.  

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And I say this as someone
whose major is in International Cultural studies. I'm fascinated with the idea of separate cultures and conventions, (and kind of bored with the bland, urban Western cosmopolitanism), and in no way judgmental or small-minded.  

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Khazei actually made jokes about his name in an ad
He put a picture of himself between pictures of Jay-Z and a daisy to teach people how to pronounce his name in one of his introductory ads in 2009.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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and here
i was thinking it was CUZ-EYE

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

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I thought
it was ka-ZEY

23, liberal democrat, SSP Gay Caucus Majority Whip, IN-02 (home), IN-03 (birth), SC-03 (early childhood), IN-09 (college);   DKos: HoosierD42

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So if the Democratic candidate
changes his name to Scott Brown, the Irish Massachusetts Democrat, he'll win? What if he changes it to Seamus Reilly Donnelly Connelly Feehan O'Rourke, the Irish Massachusetts Democrat from Southie? Will that secure 75 percent of the vote? The candidate's name is really that important? Who knew?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Reminds me of something from the Massachusetts elections last year
The Republican candidate for Auditor was named Mary Z. Connaughton, which she used on all of her signage, website, etc. Except in heavily Italian neighborhoods in Boston, where her signs looked like this:

Which was not blatant pandering at all.


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That
is really funny.  :-)  Amazing the lengths candidates will go to in order to get an edge!

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I actually love that and love that she did it!
That is the most transparent opportunism I've ever seen!  And I just love it!

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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Or like in 2006
When Deval volunteers went to southie and encouraged people to vote for "Patrick Murray" for Governor...ya'know, because Deval Patrick's runningmate was Tim Murray.

Honestly, I bet this won him a few votes.


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Props
I have to admit, that is Freakin' brilliant!

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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Not a very logical theory in a presidential year, especially
Kind of hard to spin a theory that 60+% of people in Massachusetts will happily pull the lever for Barack Hussein Obama, and then on the same ballot, go "Alan Khazei, what kind of crazy foreign name is that? No, I'm voting for Scott Brown!"

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Don't overstate my position
1. I was mostly joking

2. What you say is true, but candidates with unusual names can have trouble winning over unaffiliated voters. Scott Brown sounds like a fine guy, who you wouldn't mind at all taking your daughter to prom. Khazei? Oh crap now I'm going to have to talk the Father O'Brien before he has a coronary".

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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Sorry
Okay fair enough. I didn't mean to overstate your position or accuse anything, I was joking a bit as well. I sort of see your point, I guess in a close election it might matter slightly. There's certainly some states where it is still a factor, sadly, like some people have said about Nikki Haley's narrow victory.

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It can be quite real
Being Barak Obama and running for President can help get over some of this zenophobia. Nikki Haley is one example, I also think it cost Bobby Jindal the governorship of LA the first time.  

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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Khazei
He has a love-hate relationship with state Democrats. The state party doesn't like that he doesn't use the traditional playbook (not taking PAC money, not making the usual rounds on Beacon Hill, not courting traditional power brokers like labor), but the reform wing of the party likes him because he's a clean outsider who has done good work in the non-profit sector. He got the Globe endorsement last time and was thought to be a favorite of at least some of the Kennedys (although they didn't play in the primaries, and only sorta-played in the general at the last minute.) I wonder if he could get an overt Kennedy endorsement early and take off this time.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

Here, it's called "Dina Titus".
Machine states are funny this way. Folks in all parties get sick of the machines and seem to yearn for "clean" candidates, but the very "clean" reform minded candidates can't win because the machines either lock them out of the party primaries... Or destroy them in the general if Plan A doesn't work.

That's what happened to Dina Titus when she beat machine favored Dem Jim Gibson in the 2006 NV-Gov primary. Nevada's infamous "gaming-mining-lobbying industrial complex" actually threw the general to Jim Gibbons because they feared Dina's independent spirit. And it happened again last year in NV-03. Even as the machine cranked up for Harry Reid, they refused to put the same effort into helping Dina, precisely because she doesn't follow party establishment rules and does what she thinks is best for the community. But OTOH, that's why the environmentalists, blue-collar union folks, and LGBTQ activists LOVE Dina and can't wait for her to announce a Congressional campaign soon.

So I understand what you and others are saying about Khazei. He's raging against the machine... But does he have the mettle to beat it?

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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Which raises an interesting question:
if Khazei were the nominee and wasn't automatically buried by Brown's money, would he get the Independent voters than someone like andyroo312* thinks he has no chance of getting? In this race, I'm starting to think that Independent voters are key, because I'm having trouble imagining a situation where the Democrat does well or at least good enough with Independents but loses a startlingly large number of Democrats for no particular reason. Is the Democratic establishment really going to sabotage him in order to go with Brown?

*I don't mean to seem like I am picking on him, in case I gave that impression.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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From what I heard...
From folks on the ground in MA last year, it seemed like the Boston machine just left Martha Coakley out in the cold. And even when it looked like Scott Brown could really win, they kept sitting on their hands and made OFA do all the leg work for her.

Alan Khazei IMHO needs to be prepared to win without the Boston machine if he's really serious this time. The Obama campaign may be willing to help again, but there's no guarantee the Boston machine will play nice if their handpicked candidate loses the primary again.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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I don't understand:
why would they leave her out in the cold? There's something about this dynamic that I don't understand.

Of course, I still blame Martha "I have to campaign outside? In the cold?" Coakley for the loss. Mostly, anyway.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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So they could have one of their own
Next time around. Stupid considering how strongly Brown is polling.

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"Machine" is overplayed
I never heard much emphasis placed on the Dem "Machine" until after the 2010 results rolled in this fall. MA has been so strongly Dem recently that the "machine" was just the actual voters. In fact, it was because of Brown's victory that Chairman Walsh recognized how important it was to build a machine.

It was this machine that managed to re elect a Democratic Governor, with unenviable favorables, in 2010. Remember, the GOP held the corner office for 16 years before Dems captured it (on the backs of grassroots activism) in 2006.

The MA Dem machine exists today as a direct response to Scott Brown. Ironically, it seems he is the only GOPer right now that our machine is having a tough time targetting.


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Simple. The machine wants a machine pick.
And if they can't get it, they take their balls and go home. To them, it mattered more that Martha Coakley became a national laughingstock than that a Republican (!!!) won a US Senate seat in Massachusetts.

That's why I'm saying that I hope Khazei is a better campaigner than Coakley. If he's serious about winning, he will need to learn ASAP to win on his own. That's what Dina Titus had to learn the hard way here in Nevada, and next year's House races here should be very interesting to watch.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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He wasnt really a great campaigner...
Khazei was a very good candidate as he was a good public speaker and had good contrast to the very animated and passionate Capuano and the laid back Coakley, however, his campaign was nothing I was impressed with... still not as bad as Coakley's though... even in the primary she wasn't doing any kind of events but the occaisional phonebank.

[ Parent ]
Do you think
Capuano may run?  

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
No.
Exhibit A: Look at his fundraising.

[ Parent ]
If he announces, that would pick up quickly.
The current state of his fundraising is because he was unopposed last November.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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?
And Scott Brown is unopposed right now..yet it doesn't seem to be dampening his fundraising.

The point is, right now there is so much speculation on who will run that Capuano could be fundraising like crazy as a sitting member of Congress, but he is not. He could capitalize on the mild enthusiam to finding a Dem opponent for Brown and rake in a decent amount of bucks (compared to what he usually raises), but he is not.

What politician wouldn't raise money off of this speculation - even if they had no intention of actually running - unless they absolutely were not running?


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McGovern's Worcester machine sat on their hands too
Jim McGovern and the local labor unions have a very strong presence in Worcester, and his people are always demonstrating on the streets in election years. They were out in force waving signs for Kerry in 04, Patrick in 06, and Obama in 08, and did a lot of less visible GOTV at well. There were anti-war protesters downtown daily for a solid 3 months in 2003. And for whatever reason, these folks were nowhere to be seen for Coakley in 2010. That made be think McGovern himself would take a run at Brown in 2012, but he's made no moves towards the race thus far.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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What if there's no "handpicked candidate"
Interesting reading about the machine politics. Do you know, will they still snub Khazei if none of the machine candidates (e.g. Capuano) go for it? Feeling like their own choice has been beaten and refusing to back the victor is petty enough, but refusing to support the only person who stepped up seems worse.

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MA Machine
There is a misconception about MA ideologically. Beyond Boston and Western MA is not THAT progressive. The machine relies on patronage (and to be blunt, inertia) so there are no incentives in federal elections.

There were all sorts of horror stories (obviously anecdotal) of GOTV efforts actually bringing Brown voters to the polls in the special.


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Who is their chosen candidate?


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I'd guess Capuano.


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"Their"?
There is no true establishment. And there is no overwhelming candidate that comes to mind. No one in the mix honestly inspires people.

Believe it or not, prior to the Brown fiasco, everyone was so fixated on Martha Coakley being the rising star. No one even considered that the bench after her was so horribly staffed. Coakley would be the next Senator, Tim Murray would be our next Governor...then I think every Dem just assumed by then a better crop of Dems would have emerged. Unfortunately we set ourselves back by electing Bump to Auditor and Grossman to Treasurer. Bump's baggage makes her a no go for any other office; Grossman's age makes him unappealing (though hes a fantastic guy).

Personally, I really think the State Legislature is the best place to grab a candidate to go against Brown. I LOVE State Sen. Sonia Chang-Diaz and think that she would be the best (even better than any of our Congressmen). I use to think State Rep. Jim Vallee would be great because he and his family are attractive with a great biography, but A) he is personal friends with Brown, and B) he is the FORMER Majority Leader, who was just knocked out of leadership by DeLeo. Speaker Pro-Tempore Pat Haddad is just an awesome woman, but she wont. I LOVE Terry Murray, but as Senate Prez she really is more powerful in her current position, and she just got off a tough race. Sen. Anthony Petrucceli is a creature of the chamber and most likely will keep his political career in Boston...

Mayors, while at first appearing to be good picks because they don't need to give up their current office, aren't actually good. The reason is because this tough economy is forcing them to make very tough decisions that, while necessary, are also unpopular.

No DA or Sherrif has really stood out.


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Two questions:
1. Why was Murray's race so close?

2. What makes Chang Diaz so attractive? From what little I know of her, she seems great on the issues. But, while I don't like to throw accusations of racism or anything like it or classism, she's a mixed race woman originally from Newton. If part of Brown's strength is his appeal to the older and/or whiter working class types, is she the best candidate? She herself said that voters really don't care, but in a race like this, just a few points could make a difference. Then again, perhaps the best way to gain an advantage is to draw a contest, so if she's not going to lose that much of the older and/or whiter working class vote but will see a surge from ethnic voters and latte liberal types, she could be the best candidate. Also, what does she have to lose? I mean, if she lost, she's young enough that she could reenter politics and still serve the public for a long time.



"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Southshore
Murray's district is on the Southshore (south of Boston) is trending Republican. That, coupled by her high-profile position as Senate President, made voters and activists want to use her as an example. Deval is also not particularly popular in her region, so her victory was going to depend on many voters splitting their ticket (and 2010 was not the environment to hope for much ticket splitting).

Sonia is young, attractive and articulate. That is superficial, but most voters really depend on the superficial - and trust me, many women are voting for Brown because he is cute.

Sonia won her seat by knocking out a corrupt, incumbent Dem (who was caught on video stuffing bribes into her bra!).

Sonia has been a true progressive, not shying away from voting her concious. Unfortunately, it just occurred to me that one of the ways she bucked the establishment was by supporting Alan Kazei in the 2009 Senate primary (while Terry Murray was twisting arms for Martha)...which probably means Sonia wont jump in now since Alan just got into the race :(


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Yeah, real clean
Paying employees less than minimum wage is certainly acceptable by Republican standards, but as a Democrat I would hope that others in my party find that kind of behavior unacceptable in a nominee for ANY office.  

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Link?


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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The Horse's Mouth
http://books.google.com.kw/boo...

near the bottom of the page


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That doesn't strike me as
exploitation.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Um, no.
City Year is like Americorps or the Peace Corps. People do it because they want to do something good for a community, not to make money. The focus is on volunteering time, not being paid to do something.

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I suggest reading his book
You're right to an extent. Certainly the rich kids doing it are doing it b/c they want the service experience. But there are also a lot of underprivileged kids doing it b/c it's a job.

Here's some analysis of Khazei's job creation program, and the way he sold CityYear during the primary. http://bluemassgroup.com/2009/...

Khazei tried to sell himself as someone who created 15,000 jobs. If he's going to do that, it's fair to treat them as we would real jobs, and ding him for paying his employees less than minimum wage. You can't argue that they're not really jobs when you want to defend yourself from the min wage issue but then argue that they are real jobs when you want to tout your accomplishments.


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Interesting Scenario
Lets say Obama ends up coasting to re-election and winning Mass. easily(obviously on the last one). Scott Brown loses by less than a %, the Obama wave did him in.

Now, does Obama shy away from appointing Kerry to something in order to not risk losing the seat to Scott Brown in an open seat race? A Kerry vs Brown matchup in 2014 under this scenario would be interesting as well.

Then again, maybe Brown would retire at that point or run for Governor instead.  


I've wondered about that, too.
I get that Kerry isn't exactly loved, even if it's not hated, either, but are enough people indifferent on him to toss him aside going up against a long-serving incumbent? For all of the talk how lethal Scott Brown is, he's won one special election against a lazy candidate. So if he loses this election, why would he have enough of a base to unseat Kerry?


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Admittedly
Admittedly it would be a long shot for him but if Obama is still President in 2014 there could be some backlash in a midterm, which could help him.

And the scenario is that he barely loses to a strongish opponent due to Obama coattails and is still popular-ish. Kind of like a Chafee scenario.  


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But is there really a strong
Democratic candidate for governor? I mean this as a serious question, not a rhetorical or leading one. If not, then under such a situation, why not run for that instead?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Tim Murray
Uninspiring, but he comes from a region that is trending republican (Worcester County), has been raising money like a feind, and has been very successful at building relationships with every potential politicla activist out there.

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I'm almost starting to wonder
if they're trying to persuade Brown to switch parties.  It would make the lack of establishment candidates, the praise for Brown, and the weird Barney Frank/Setti Warren thing make sense.

I doubt they'd succeed, but I wonder if there's something like that going on behind the scenes.

From MO-3, college in CT-3, lived in NH-1, NH-2, PA-2, and MA-8 in the 3 years since.


Party Switch
There is no way he would survive a Dem. primary, even if they arrange to have all the strong candidates sit out.

Hell, Martha Coakley would crush him in a primary.  


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Well...maybe
He's scary popular.  I mean, the twentysomething liberal types I hang out with hate him, but he gets a lot of dem support, and independents love him.  If the establishment wanted to make it happen, I think they could probably get him through a primary against a Khazei type.

Again, I very much doubt it would actually happen, but it would make all this weirdness fit a pattern.

From MO-3, college in CT-3, lived in NH-1, NH-2, PA-2, and MA-8 in the 3 years since.


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I doubt it
All my middle-aged Dem relatives in MA hate him too. He's popular because he wins independents, but they aren't a plurality of the Dem primary electorate.

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He is popular because he hasn't faced a proper campaign
Two weeks in January last year hardly count especially when they tried to hit him on stuff nobody cared about. Since then he has developed a voting record far more conservative than Collins and Snowe.

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Exactly
People have to keep in mind that Brown hasn't been attacked by anyone, ever, in a systematic way.  Coakley didn't do anything with him, and no candidates have really stepped up to do so yet this cycle.  Meanwhile, he still has the tea party enough under his thumb that they aren't hitting him from the right.  What we need in this race isn't a top-tier candidate, right away; what we need is a bunch of rich guys like Khazei whacking the shit out of Brown on the airwaves from now until November 2012.  That should take down his favorables in a hurry, and make it possible for a Democrat to win the seat.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...

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I think Brown's durability is WAY overstated.
Yes, Brown will be a tough opponent, but in an overwhelmingly blue state in a Presidential election year I can only see Brown winning if his opponent is even worse than Coakley. I know that MA's electorate is plurarity (majority?) independent, and that is a major reason why he was able to win in the 2010 special by taking two thirds of the Indy vote. However in a presidential election the % of Dem votes will increase, so Brown will either have to win either more indys or take more of the Dem vote.

If Brown was a liberal Republican like how Chaffee was or even like Olympia Snowe then yes I could see him being a very tough opponent but he is only a somewhat moderate who generally votes the GOP party line.

Khazei isn't that impressive. He is mostly a generic Dem but a generic Dem is enough to beat Brown in 2012 with Obama on the ballot. Circumstances could change and Brown could end up more resilient then any of us thought or Obama could end up doing worse in MA, weakening the coattail effect and helping Brown, but I think ultimately that Dem have at WORST a 50/50 chance of taking out Brown.


It's plurality "unenrolled"
but most of those voters are lean D at worst (I have some solidly democratic family members who were registered as unenrolled until recently because they would occasionally vote in republican primaries). And a Republican has to basically clear the board with those voters in order to win.

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We got this locked down
Now if we could clear the Primary...

50, straight white male, Democrat(Dan Boren/Gene Taylor 2012!), AL-7(born in AL-5)

Huh?


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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I said
It is our God-given duty as Democrats to clear the field of the other unelectable, vote-splitting jokers so that Khazei can focus on beating that Tom Coburn Republican, Scott Brown.

50, straight white male, Democrat(Dan Boren/Gene Taylor 2012!), AL-7(born in AL-5)

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