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NC-Gov: Perdue Still Trails, Although By Less

by: Crisitunity

Tue Feb 01, 2011 at 2:38 PM EST


Public Policy Polling (1/20-23, North Carolina voters, 11/19-21/2010 in parentheses):

Bev Perdue (D-inc): 40 (37)
Pat McCrory (R): 47 (49)
Undecided: 14 (14)
(MoE: ±4.1%)

This North Carolina gubernatorial poll from PPP was unremarkable enough that it got buried under a pile of other stuff last week, but with the news that the Democratic National Convention for 2012 will be held in Charlotte, it's worth a look. It still shows incumbent Dem Bev Perdue (whose 2008 victory over Pat McCrory was pretty unconvincing, probably owing her limping across the finish line to Barack Obama strongly contesting the state and driving minority and youth turnout) trailing McCrory in a rematch, but not as badly. The previous poll was right before the Nov. election, which is one more data point (along with, say, rebounding approval numbers for both parties) that the move to divided government took a fair amount of pressure off the Dems in general, by virtue of them not being the only ones left holding the bag anymore.

At any rate, while the Charlotte decision makes it clear that North Carolina is at the top of the Dems' pivot-point considerations for 2012, what effect it has for the downballot races is unclear (and bear in mind that NC doesn't have a Senate race that year, so the gubernatorial race is the main game in town after the presidency): does this help Perdue by giving a ground-game boost to her bid? Or does it hurt her by nationalizing the race? (The same questions could be asked of Missouri, where St. Louis was the losing contender. Does that conversely hurt Claire McCaskill, with Missouri clearly lower on the Dems' leverage priority list this year, or help her by giving her a little breathing room from the national party?)

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So, how much was Robin Carnahan leading Roy Blunt
at this time in 2008?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

Robin wasn't the incumbent
But sure, things can change.

[ Parent ]
Well, since you asked
she was leading by 1. And that was pretty much the end of her leads.

[ Parent ]
I seem to remember another
That led to a certain title...

[ Parent ]
That certain title
was about Carnahan's fundraising, IIRC

[ Parent ]
And the comments
Only serve to prove the original point.

[ Parent ]
I don't think the convention pick hurts McCaskill
The President will/should get out the majority of the state's Democratic base from the STL and KC, so it will be up to McCaskill to work the rural interior of the state to win over independents and garner cross-over votes. STL landing the convention would have been nice, but I am skeptical it would garner anymore help for the down-ballot Dems than just seriously contesting the state will.

Democrat: TN-8

NYT reported
that McCaskill lobbied against having the convention in St. Louis. She feared it would attract protesters (which is obviously will) and divert donations away from her and toward Obama and the DNC. I also suspect she didn't want to nationalize the race, though it wasn't cited in the article. Perhaps because saying so would be tantamount to telling Obama to screw off. McCaskill is personally close with the President and will probably need to utilize him to at least some degree to win her reelection bid.

link: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...

NY-01/NY-19


Purdue's biggest problem comes from her base...
Having the convention in her back yard certainly will not hurt.

Obama could pull her through again


[ Parent ]
Not if she doesn't win
Charlotte. Pat McCrory, despite running a plaincloth conservative race, nearly won Mecklenburg county in 2008...while Obama was getting like 62% of the vote there.  

[ Parent ]
If I remember our friend user JSmith
he actually supported long-time Charlotte Mayor McCrory over Perdue, because he believed that McCrory would be more sympathetic to the needs of urban NC.

Even though most politicians south of the Potomic may avoid it, I suspect some joint appearances between the President and Perdue would actually help her in urban NC.


[ Parent ]
They guy who said
Dixiecrats needed to be purged because they weren't liberal enough was fine with backing a very conservative Republican for Governor? Wow.  

[ Parent ]
Southern wipeout
He was right about that. But he also said things would be fine everywhere else. Oh well.

[ Parent ]
how
do you find these things tietack?

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

[ Parent ]
Google search with the "site" tag
In this case, I googled:

jsmith mccrory site:swingstateproject.com

It works well with other major sites too. Excellent way to cull the NY Times, e.g. the following search lists all instances of the name "Pat McCrory" in the available NY Times issues online:

"Pat McCrory" site:nytimes.com

42 results ain't bad when doing research on a specific person. That kind of search is essential in my work where I'm often searching for error messages say in Red Hat Linux mailing list databases -- the site tag works with subdomains -- this is an example of a recent search of mine -

iptables site:redhat.com/archives/rhelv6-list/


[ Parent ]
deval patrick came back from the dead
but NC sure as hell isn't mass.  any chance detective moore, or some other NC dem would be willing to challenge her?  heck, might she retire?

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

The only person I really see with
strengths to make it a race is Anthony Foxx. Who, though he won only narrowly in 2009, has since had a very successful tenure thus far as Mayor of Charlotte. He could counteract McCrory's native son strengths there and has a good, young profile that I think would play well in Salem-Greensboro and the Durham metro area.  

[ Parent ]
thank you third party...
Only possible because of a third party candidate...  

[ Parent ]
Patrick got 48% of the vote...
this comment needs some evidence, stat. Especially since the third party, while conservative, was a former Democrat.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Has there been any talk about
her not running again?  Or maybe a strong primary challenge?

I'd say she needs to pull a Blanco and resign, but that did not necessarily end up well for us (though that result was pretty much preordanied).


The Governor is already moving right...
The Carolina Journal Online has an article 'GOP Praises Perdue Revamp Proposal, But Says More Reforms Needed.'
http://www.carolinajournal.com...
Based on this article she will be the best friend the North Carolina Republicans ever had.

I was surprised she won the first time
I mean to me McCrory is a fairly perfect cnadidate for NC, having been mayor of a large population center, a conservative Republican but one who seems to lack complete hate-mongering, and some other things.  But of course Obama was able to help her a lot.

Its possible Obama could push her over again.  Its possible that McCrory could udnerperform in Charlotte in 2012 compared to 2008 as people might forget him a little bit 4 years later.  Or its possible everything goes against Perdue and people are stillc ranky in 2012 and vote out the incumbent.

I think this race will be pretty interesting.  I don't really see a better candidate than Perdue in any scenario.  If the economy improves by 2012, maybe she cna lay claim to that.  if it doesn't, I don't see how any other Dem can step in and win.



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