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SSP Daily Digest: 1/18

by: Crisitunity

Tue Jan 18, 2011 at 3:30 PM EST


IN-Sen: The usually low-key Richard Lugar, all of a sudden, seems intent on reminding everyone in the press who'll listen that he isn't dead yet. Lugar says he isn't sure how seriously to take the threat from the tea partiers since there's no declared opponent yet, but he's moving full speed ahead on fundraising, with a Friday event set with a $320K target.

MA-Sen: I know that our comments section isn't representative of the Democratic primary electorate in Massachusetts, but Bob Massie's unexpected campaign rollout over the weekend, and his uniquely compelling personal story, seemed to get an overwhelmingly positive response here. Here's another, and more in-depth, profile of the first Democrat to get into the race against Scott Brown.

TX-Sen: San Antonio mayor Julian Castro is the latest Democrat to pass on the Senate contest, in the wake of Kay Bailey Hutchison's retirement announcement. The up-and-comer says he "has no intention" of running in 2012 (which, I suppose, leaves open the possibility that he might find himself unintentionally running?).

UT-Sen: Here's kind of a strange poll in Utah, seeing as how it's tests of configurations that I can't ever see happening... and, in the case of the 2012 GOP Senate field, it's not even a sample of the people who'll be making the actual decision (given the Utah GOP's heavy reliance on the convention). In fact, the GOP primary question is asked of all Utah voters. At any rate, local pollsters (here on behalf of Utah Policy, rather than usual client the Deseret News) Dan Jones find ex-Gov. and current Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman in the lead in a GOP primary, beating Rep. Jason Chaffetz and incumbent Orrin Hatch 48-23-21. I haven't heard anything about Hunstman running, at least not for Senate, and there's no Chaffetz/Hatch head-to-head polled. They also find that Hatch would win a general election against Democratic Rep. Jim Matheson (in the odd event that, a) Hatch would survive the convention, and b) Matheson would give up his House seat for a suicide run), 48-41.

VA-Sen: This statement from ex-Gov./DNC chair Tim Kaine is simultaneously worrisome and reassuring: he says he won't run for Senate, even if Jim Webb retires, problematic since he's the Dems' other top-tier candidate here besides Webb. On the other hand, he says that he has no reason to believe that Webb is planning anything other than re-election (although he doesn't give any specifics on why he thinks that). Meanwhile, Jamie Radtke is already getting out in front of George Allen in the wake of reports that Allen is about to announce his bid. She challenged Allen to a series of debates, and rolled out an endorsement from RedState's Erick Erickson. Allen didn't respond, although he announced his own series of town hall events (presumably solo) through Americans for Prosperity.

WV-Gov: Former Republican SoS and current gubernatorial candidate Betty Ireland seems to have some insider knowledge that nobody else does: she's saying that she wouldn't be running if Rep. Shelley Moore Capito was, and that she had spoken with Capito to get confirmation on that. There was no comment on that from Capito's camp.

AZ-08: There was much ado about nothing yesterday with brief blogospheric panic over an obscure Arizona state law that says that an elected official can be removed from office, via a declared vacancy, if she doesn't execute her duties within a 90 day period. Turns out that applies only to state and local officials, and even if it didn't, applying it to a federal official wouldn't likely pass constitutional muster (in the same way that state term limits and recall laws don't apply to House members).

CA-49: With Rep. Darrell Issa about to take over the reins of the House Oversight committee, this long and remarkably thorough piece from the New Yorker's Ryan Lizza is today's must-read, if you haven't already seen it. It revisits various episodes in his checkered past, but presents an interesting, complicated picture of him.

KY-AG: Even though he's just dodged bids by his two most potentially serious rivals (SoS Trey Grayson and former state Supreme Ct. chief justice Joseph Lambert), now there are local rumors bubbling up that Democratic incumbent AG (and probably still a rising star) Jack Conway may not seek a second term. State Rep. John Tilley, state Sen. Ray Jones, and former state Dem chair Jennifer Moore have started talking themselves up for the job. While Conway publicly has said he intends to run again, Tilley says Conway has told him he hasn't made a decision yet.

Chicago mayor: Big Dog alert! Bill Clinton will be appearing in Chicago on behalf of former right-hand man Rahm Emanuel and his bid for Chicago mayor. (Also reportedly appearing: SNL star and Emanuel impersonator Andy Samberg.) Carol Mosely Braun's take? "One outsider coming in to support another outsider."

Enthuasiam gap: Hooray! We've all been saved! PPP has officially declared that the "enthusiasm gap" is over. OK, I'm being facetious and it's not that simple, but PPP finds that 85% of Democrats and 82% of Republicans are "very excited" or "somewhat excited" about voting in 2012, suggesting that young people and minority voters might actually get off their duffs and vote if there's a president on the ballot. (In fact, the highest report of "very exciteds" is among African-Americans, at 71%.) Democrats were killed in 2010 by a high disparity in "not exciteds," but currently only 16% of Dems and 18% of GOPers are in that condition, suggesting turnout parity.  

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PPP TX-SEN numbers: TX youth vote very conservative
http://www.publicpolicypolling...

The current field unsurprisingly shows Dems getting clobbered by Reps in hypothetical 2012 Senate matchups, but what I was most surprised by was the crosstabs of 18-29 (it's a small sample, 100 people, but still...) and that demographic being overwhelmingly conservative voters.

For example, with 18-29, Dewhurst is ahead of Edwards 58/21.  In most matchups, the 18-29 subset is the most conservative.  Could be just due to various issues with the small sample and only landlines, but PPP's age numbers in the 2010 cycle usually made sense.

If their numbers are close to correct, I'd say that predictions of TX moving into swing state territory over the next decade are a bit premature, what do you think?


Quite possibly
I'll say this: the evil bastards in charge of setting school curriculum in Texas know what they're doing.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
This has nothing to do with the recent curriculum change
Texas, like other southern states, has people who raise their children with more right wing values.  

According to the 2008 Exit Poll by CNN the 18-29 vote in Texas went 54-45 for Obama.  A 9 point margin isn't enough for a Democrat to win the Senate.


[ Parent ]
Nothing at all?
I know the way my parents raised me made a big difference in how I see the world, but I remember having some profoundly influential teachers and classes in high school.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Well, as a conservative
in Europe you have to learn to oppose your teacher's opinions.

I was thrown outta class before for doggedley defending US foreign policy and George Bush. But then again the same teacher snorted and laughed in my face once when I said I believed in God.

Actually I'm about almost as conservative as my parents generation which was VERY conservative. Divorce and sodomy were illegal well into the 90s (Divorce passed with 50.1% of the vote), and abortion is still illegal.


[ Parent ]
That crosstab is completely unreliable......
Age crosstabs as a rule are the most unreliable of any crosstabs in a poll.

And this just proves the rule.

In fact Texas has a rapidly growing non-white population, and the "growth" comes from youth.  Look at schools in this and other states, I guarantee their non-white populations are a lot bigger percentage of the total compared to 20 years ago.

The only way young voters are "more conservative" than older voters is for non-whites to be more conservative than whites.

But the opposite is true.

Texas is a tough nut for us to crack specifically because white voters have become so overwhelmingly conservative and Republican.  The non-white vote growth hasn't kept up with that, so the state's become tougher instead of easier.  At some point there won't be any white voters left for the GOP to "convert," and the trend will reverse.  But it's going to be a bunch of cycles before the state is truly competitive for us.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Yup, 20-25 years seems
about right.  

[ Parent ]
There's
also the fact that Texas has very low voter turnout. There's a pool of about five million registered voters that never show up. There's really no way to tell, from what I've seen, to determine who they are or why they aren't showing up that frequently, if at all. Maybe most of it's not that different in ideology from those who are showing up, but I wouldn't be surprised if a significant chunk of that pool is open to voting for a Democrat, either based on already-held beliefs or what amounts to indifference.


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Just for comparison...
Obama won the 18-29 vote in Texas in 2008, and Cornyn was only up by six with that demographic, according to exit polls.  

[ Parent ]
It wouldn't
surprise me if the younger population is more conservative than in other states, but why would it be that much more conservative? I'd guess it's a function of a small sample size more than anything else.

The results aren't exactly encouraging, but at the same time, when almost 60 percent of the population doesn't have an opinion of you, as is the case with John Sharp, I wouldn't conclude anything just yet. There's also the fact that a decent chunk of the population isn't automatically voting for the Republican candidate, even when he or she is identified as such.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
The results aren't encouraging at all...
B.j., Tom Jensen could have written this directly for you:

"While the less optimistic Democrats are at least hoping that in a presidential year, with strong minority turnout and some resources spent by the Obama campaign, they could spring a surprise. At this stage, those hopes appear small."

I'd say very small. Still don't see any proof this will be competitive.


[ Parent ]
Hey, as much as I have
been optimistic about our chances there, I know it'll be an uphill battle. Nothing I have seen today has convinced me otherwise.

But like I said before, when almost 60 percent of the population doesn't register an opinion on you, I am not going to register a firm opinion. Similar things can be said about the Republicans in the race.

Also, I wonder if the results would change if the sample of this poll wasn't so old. According to the .pdf file, it says 62 percent of those sample identified as 46 and older. In 2008, according to CNN, the portion of the electorate that was 45 and older was 53 percent. Both went heavily to McCain and to Cornyn.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
I wonder if it's because
the 18-29 sample is overwhelmingly white.  Young minorities are probably less likely to have landlines than whites in the same age group.  Also, PPP only polls in english, though it didn't seem to particularly bias the toplines of their 2010 TX polls.

[ Parent ]
I wish ppp had polled kinky Friedman as the D nominee
I'd actually like to see how he'd do. I wouldn't be surprised if he did better than the other ds in this poll (though that's not saying much).

Male, VA-08

[ Parent ]
conservative
Looking through the crosstabs of approval ratings from conservatives for the dems, sharp looks okay with a 20/22. All the other candidates look like they will get crushed if the conservatives vote in massive numbers      

[ Parent ]
Politically speaking,
what's he's done in the past gives him a lot of credibility, at least on paper, to avoid being tarred with the label of Dirty Fucking Hippy. I have no doubt that the Republicans will try to paint him as the ugly combination of Stalin, Mao Zedung, Hitler, Nancy Pelosi, and Charlie Sheen, but will it really stick?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Depends
If Sharp has the cash and uses it in an efficient way to reach out to the conservative before the Republicans have a chance, then it will not stick (or not as much)
   

[ Parent ]
I agree.
I don't think he needs to pretend to be a conservative Republican to win, but he does need to be viewed as not completely unacceptable in order to win.

I wonder what his coalition might be. He wouldn't be a progressive's wet dream, but I would think that he'd be acceptable to them, if not actually fairly well liked, considering the alternatives, so I would imagine that he has the Democratic base in his pocket. But what about everyone else? Bringing new voters into the process, either ones already registered or waiting to be registered, is part of the process, but what part? Is there a sufficiently large environmentalist base in the state? Can he court them while not pissing off the mainstream energy sector? Can he attract young voters and students? Can he talk to a possible swing voter in the metro areas? Would any of them respond to a theme of making government work, above all else? His record seems to point to just that.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
Not Bad
The head to head polling numbers just measured Generic Republican vs. Generic Democratic match-ups, basically with some name recognition shown. Honestly, I was more impressed by the state of the Democrats in these polls. Most undecideds were Moderates/Liberals and against a Black Teabagger like Williams, an awful combination for winning over important swing racist conservadems, I could see Sharp getting a result in the high 40s.

Did anyone really think we could win this seat outside of a live boy/dead girl event?


[ Parent ]
I do,
but that should come as a shock to absolutely nobody. Assuming our floor is more like Rick Noriega's rather than Barbara Randofsky's, we could, with enough luck and investment of resources, make up the ground to get us to a win. Granted, we are talking a 51-49 win or something similar, and not a Casey-Santorum-style win.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Small Sample Problem
Youthful liberalism seen in most Texas college areas + Disproportionately Hispanic 18-29 Population= Democratic youth.


[ Parent ]
I just want to say...
After reading that profile on Rep. Issa, I am inspired to draw a map of California in which that sleazebag is out of a job.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

I haven't
read it yet, as I haven't received my copy of The New Yorker in the mail and prefer to read it in print, but I'm curious to see what it says. (There's also an article, I think, about controlling health care costs from Atul Gawande. I doubt he'd ever be talked into running, but he'd be my sort of candidate for the senate seat in Massachusetts.)

Anyway, I've always thought Issa was a pretty big tool, even if he comes across as less than he actually is on television. Still, you've got nothing better to investigate that the alleged crimes of the Obama administration and the supposed fraud of global warming science? California Democrats, if there's one Republican in the state to take out, it's him. Get to work!  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
It sounds like giving Rep. Issa control over investigating things like ethics and wrong doing ...
.... would be like asking Homer Simpson to keep an eye on the donuts!

[ Parent ]
WV-Gov/Sen
If Capito doesn't run for Governor I'd be very surprised, and while I suppose Ireland might be lying about having spoken to Capito about it (and how dumb would you have to be, like no one will ask her to confirm), I'm guessing there is fire to this smoke.

I'm not sure if this means she is more likely to challenge Manchin or just take the safe house seat for life, her committee assignments aren't THAT great.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


The Moores and Manchins have a nonaggression pact
I think she's decided to stay in the House. She could be in pole position for a spot in leadership if the Republicans are denied the White House next year and the likes of Ambassador Huntsman, Gov. Snyder, or a magically moderated Sen. Rubio lead the GOP back toward the center for 2016.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Source?
I had never heard of anything like that, not saying your wrong, but it certainly doesn't sound right to me.

I think the most likely outcome is Ireland loses the special and Capito runs for the full governor term in '12. If Ireland wins she might take on Manchin, I have a tough time understanding why she would want to stay in the house....she's safe for life, but really isn't doing much.

I've tried reaching out to some of here people recently, but no one I know is still close to her...

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


[ Parent ]
I can't find a reliable source...
But it's one of the more persistent rumors about West Virginia politics. I think if Rep. Capito wanted to run against Sen. Manchin, she would have got in the race last year.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
UT-Sen, KY-AG
UT: Matheson might pull the trigger if (as I suspect) he gets the shaft again in redistricting. It'd be a hell of an uphill climb, given how partisan the state is, but running against Jason Chaffetz would probably be the best possible scenario for him.

KY: Conway had better decide soon, the filing deadline is in a week or so.


Matheson would be very wise to threaten to run statewide if he gets a lousy district
Put a little pressure on the legislature to treat him fairly.  (The same thing Donnelly is doing in IN-02, btw)

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

[ Parent ]
That might actually make the legislature more eager to knock him out
ditto with Donnelly - if either runs statewide and loses, he's probably gone. But if they stick around and wins a more conservative district, they could hold on for a while.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

[ Parent ]
The other thing that could happen w/ redistricting
If they create a solid dem seat in SLC where there's no chance Matheson survives the convention/primary, then he could run statewide and leave that seat to another democrat. That's kind of my best case scenario, although I don't see it happening as I think they can still safely crack SLC w/o endangering anybody else.

Male, VA-08

[ Parent ]
Not that I'd think
he'd win, but that result against Hatch could be a helluva lot worse.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
A few things:
1. This past weekend, I saw an uncle I had not seen in a long, long time. He's always had political opinions but hasn't, he said, voted in years. For whatever reason, he became enamored with Lincoln Chaffee (it's all he would talk about, in fact) and decided to volunteer for his campaign. (Strangely enough, he missed the registration deadline, so he couldn't vote for him, but he ended up volunteering for him. He reregistered to vote after the election to avoid this mistake again.) He told me that he shook Bloomberg's hand, which was very cool, the day before the election, and waited in line for an hour and a half either on the day of the swearing or at some other point to meet Chaffee and shake his hand. When he finally got a chance to do this, he mentioned how much he liked him and how long he waited, something he's never done before, not even for Bob Dylan tickets. (Dylan is his lifelong obsession.) Chaffee's response? "Well, I can't sing for you, but I'll try to do anything else to make you happy."

2. I think the picture from the link below is amusing, so whether you need to be cheered up because of Kent Conrad retiring or for some other reason, take a look.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com...

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


TX-Sen
I think that saving Castro for Governor is going to be important in keeping Hispanic voter turn out up in a mid-term election.  The TX Dems would be wise to arrange this, Presidential year brings out HIspanics, mid-terms, run a Hispanic at the top of the ticket so we aren't going two steps forward one (or five depending the cycle) steps back.  

I was surprised by his negs...
I mean, clearly if you aren't in SA you don't know Castro, but 7/21? That's pretty bad to get 75% of the people who have an opinion viewing you negatively.  What the heck did he do?

[ Parent ]
I'd bet
that number is almost entirely Republicans who would hate any Democrat.

I refuse to draw any conclusions about any politician from any party who is largely unknown.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
Perhaps voters overall who would hate any Hispanic candidate?
What were Cisneros' numbers before his marital issues?

btw, user b.j., while I googled for Cisneros' numbers, I found this -- http://www.texasmonthly.com/bl...  

I think you'll find the numbers quite interesting -- and you probably can make better use of this than anyone else here.  


[ Parent ]
I don't know
if it's because of his race. There's usually a percentage of the population that votes against a candidate no matter how convincingly he or she wins or doesn't like an elected official no matter what he or she does, in every state at ever level.

As far as that link you gave me, a few things:

1. It's important to remember that if/when the state becomes competitive for Democrats, it's not going to become California. It'll be bluer, I think, but not really blue. It'll be a swing state, but that means that we can lose it as often as we win it.

2. The idea behind The Emerging Democratic Majority, both as a book and as an idea itself, doesn't rest solely with minorities. It's also upper class/educated whites.  And these people do need to be targeted, whether they are minorities that will soon compose the majority or the upper class/educated whites.

3. As far as targeting them in Texas, specifically minorities, there's certainly a lot of work to be done and a lot of positive electoral returns to be had by doing it. Why it hasn't been done already is beyond me. A big part of it is money, although as I mentioned in another thread earlier today, a project called Houston Votes estimated the cost of registering 100,000 voters and turning out 50,000 in 2010 to be $675,000. That's a very small amount overall, so you have to wonder even more why it's not being done. Surely there are enough rich Democrats in Texas, and even more nationwide, that would chip in to help juice the ranks in the metro areas. And it's not as if Obama will be short on cash in 2012 as long as he's not fighting for his life, so I hope we'd use that advantage, which we might not have again for a long time, in every way we can. That way, the initial investment, likely to be the most expensive, is covered.

But a bigger part of the reason, I suspect, is a reluctance to try new things and a reliance on older, possibly less effective methods. An article I found (link below) talks about the "stunning" success of Democrats in Dallas in 2006, winning all 47 elected offices on the ballot, despite not winning a single office statewide and Rick Perry being elected again. How did they follow up? From what I can tell, they decided that it was best to abandon their recently learned techniques and rely on the old methods, which of course never seemed to work. (Sounds smart, no?/sarcasm) At the same time, Republicans like Rick Perry are using the same methods that proved so powerful for Dallas Democrats in 2006, which combined with the overall tilt of the state (right now, anyway) means huge margins for them.

http://www.texasobserver.org/c...

4. Someone here, or maybe it was a few people, claimed that part of the reason that Hispanics never seemed to be a factor for Democrats was that Hispanics who have been there for some time identify as white and end up voting like the rest of the state. (It was more detailed than that, and I wish I could show it to you, but I can't find the exact comment.) That sounds plausible, but I am not sure.

To me at least, the more likely factor is that Republicans have had success at attracting those who do identify as Hispanic. Nationally and in the state, the ones that aren't stupid, at least when it comes to politics, know that if they write off the non-white portion, they are screwed, so they have been trying to work to get their votes. And while in most cases the Democrats still receive most of it, if they approach or even exceed 40 percent, it's basically impossible to win when the white vote is going against you so heavily.

5. I won't go into too much detail here, because I talk about this too much, but I remain unconvinced that the state is so Republican that it will never elect a Democrat. For one thing, there's a lot of white voters that are not registered. For another, there are even more that registered but never show up. Assuming this pool of voters is basically the same from election to election, you have to wonder why. Are they likely Republican voters that know it's in the bag? Are they Democrats that aren't being targeted? Or are they, and a decent chunk of the population that is voting for Republicans every election, essentially swing voters, even if they are right-leaning ones, that are open to hearing a pitch from a sufficiently moderate Democrat? Not in the reddest areas of the state, but perhaps in the less red (but still red) metro areas. Why don't we try to find out? The state is getting too big to write off.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
Excellent stuff -- the one variable that concerns me big time
is the "black/brown" split discussed in the article and response. I don't have a clue about how big it is, and am unsure how Rs might set up a wedge to exploit the split. It sounds vaguely similar to the Asian (esp. Korean)/black split found in many CA communities in the '90s -- something that Ds in CA did overcome, politically.

[ Parent ]
I'm not sure if this was true this year...
But in general, Texas Latinos who do vote tend to vote more conservatively than their California brethren.  

[ Parent ]
I wonder
if that is more because their beliefs align with Republicans in general or because the ones that are showing up have their beliefs align with Republicans. In other words, if we work on registering and mobilizing Hispanic voters, will they go for Republicans in the same way they are going for them now? If I had to guess, I'd say the percentages would skew more towards the Democrats.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Or might that dissipate
if/when the work done by W to appeal to Hispanics is wasted by Rs.

However, I suspect it would take a SB 1070 type of TX law, passed over the objections of W, that could bring Hispanics into the D camp at a rate similar to those seen in CA.

I don't know that the TX legislature would do something so brash over W's objections, but immigration is a pretty emotional issue even there.


[ Parent ]
First they have to show up
they didn't in Arizona.  

[ Parent ]
Remember 1994
it took several years for Hispanic turnout to increase in CA.

(However, I don't see any AZ analoguous leader whose doing what Antonio Villagarosa did in CA in the mid-late '90s. I could see Julian Castro taking that mantle in TX.)


[ Parent ]
Yep.
In 1994, Pete Wilson (Prop 187's biggest backer) won decisively over Kathleen Brown (Jerry's sister and SoS of CA).  The CA GOP also won the State Assembly that year.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Kathleen Brown
Kathleen Brown was actually State Treasurer (1990-94), not SoS.

[ Parent ]
Jerry was SoS 1970-74 before being elected governor the first time.


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28, New Democrat, Female, TX-03 (hometown CA-26)


[ Parent ]
I don't know
if it needs to be that extreme to be that devastating to the Republicans.

Let's play with the numbers for a moment. According to the CNN exit polls, whites were 63 percent of the electorate, blacks were 13 percent, Latinos were 20 percent, and Asians and others were two percent each in 2008. Let's say that whites were 60 percent and were split 26-73, blacks were 13 percent and were split 98-2, Latinos were 23 percent and were split 70-30, and Asians and others remained the same and were split 65-35. If my math is right, that would have given Obama about 47 percent of the vote.

But let's say that the Latino portion of the electorate shot up to 30 percent, which is a lot higher than it is now but still below its supposed total racial percentage in the state. Assuming that all of that came from white voters, bringing their percentage down to 53 percent. and everything else in the situation I created stayed the same, that would have given Obama just over 50 percent. That's a victory, but not a huge one.

So it looks like that they need it for a huge victory, but not a small one. The real danger, it seems, is if the white vote for the Democrat ever surpasses 30 percent in the state, at least for the next few cycles.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
None of this is true, TX Hispanics are strongly Democratic......
The 2010 TX-Gov exit poll shows Hispanics, 17% of the electorate, going 61-38 for White.  The 2008 exit poll shows them at 20% going 63-35 for Obama.  And the same 2008 exit poll had Hispanics going only 61-36 for Hispanic Democrat Rick Noriega in TX-Sen!

There is a normal range for our performance with Hispanics:  60-70%.  We bottom out at 60% in anti-Democratic wave years, we top out at 70% in anti-Republican wave years.  Usually it's in between.

That's true for all ethnic groups.  Black voters are in the 85-95 range, although we've exceeded 95% in unusual circumstances such as in 2008 Prez with Obama, and in LA-Gov 1991 against David Duke.

"Asians" have a broader range historically, specifically because the composition of Asians has changed dramatically over the past 20 years to include a rising tide of strongly Democratic South Asians--mostly Indians, but also Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, and Sri Lankans.  The "range" of Democratic performance with Asians seems to be settling into 55-65%, although if South Asians, who go approximately 75-25 Democratic, continue to rise as a percentage of Asian vote share (we're roughly one-third now), then that range will keep climbing.

So what we see with TX Hispanics is the same as everywhere for that demographic.  Perhaps TX Hispanics are slightly less Democratic than elsewhere, but the difference is too small to be meaningful.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
I suggest the pre-W baseline Hispanic TX vote for Ds is > 70%
The Bush years -- hopefully -- were a blip -- where he got 43 and 49% of Hispanics in '00 and '04 (after Dole carried 17% in '96 -- Bush I and Perot combined carried 30% in '92)

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenu...
http://www.wcvi.org/latino_vot...

But that history hasn't been written yet. And I don't think we can write off the effect of W until the pro-D TX Hispanic vote is back above 70%, as it was in the 1990s.


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Good finds, but some contradictory data......
See here:  http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/19...

The 1992 NEP Texas exit poll says Clinton got only 58% of Hispanics, with Bush 41 and Perot combining for over 40%.

But the exit polls for subsequent cycles in the decade do, as you say, show Hispanics giving 70%-plus to Democrats.

I looked at exit polls for some other states that decade with high Hispanic populations, and for the most part they support Democrats from 60% to the low 70s.  One anomaly was Pete Domenici in NM-Sen won them outright, 52-46, in 1996.  Florida, of course, is a big exception, since Cuban Republicans still dominated the state's Hispanic vote back then, much more so than today (although they're still the biggest bloc among FL Hispanics).

It's interesting that Texas Hispanics have dropped back into the same voting pattern as Hispanics elsewhere.  Keep in mind the national House vote last year went 60-38 Democratic among Hispanics, about the same as exit polls in Texas.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
on RRH, there's a series in work on the question
http://redracinghorses.com/dia...

While I disagree with some of the conclusions, the first part includes good data. It's supposed to be an 8-part series; I'm interested to see where RRH user Imperial takes it.  


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Good diary, I'm impressed, but a key flaw (made by others) in his analysis......
One thing I'm seeing a lot of is comparing racial performance by party over time, specifically comparing a racial group's party vote breakdown in 2010 with 2008 or 2006.

Imperial's diary says the GOP did better with Hispanics in 2010 than the previous couple cycles.

Well, Ron Brownstein did a column within the past couple weeks arguing the same thing regarding white voters.

The problem with all this is that it presumes GOP improvement with a specific voter group as if race is some sort of key to the change.  Brownstein did a long and misguided piece about Democrats doing poorly with whites this past time, specifically identifying that as a problem.  Imperial's diary focuses on Hispanics, although presenting numbers without as much analysis or conclusion as Brownstein.

But a more thorough examination reveals that race had nothing to do with it over the past few cycles.

Comparing the national House exit polls in 2010 and 2008, Democrats in the most recent election lost 8 points with whties; 4 with blacks; 8 with Latinos; 5 with Asians; and 17 with "other."  Now, "other" happens to be 2-3% of the total, a much smaller subsample with a much higher margin of error than identified groups, so that explains at least some of the large differential.  Meanwhile, it's clear that Democrats lost vote share across the board, without a great spread from one group to the next.  Going back to 2006 for a midterm-to-midterm comparison, Democrats in 2010 lost 10 points among whites, stayed the same with blacks, lost 9 points with Latinos, and lost 4 with Asians.  So the loss of white support was more pronounced, but still there was an across-the-board drop in Democratic performance.

And these differentials are actually exaggerated further by the fact that comparing 2010 with either 2008 or 2006 is to compare wave elections in opposite directions.  If you compare any of these 3 cycles with a more "neutral" cycle, the differences are much smaller.  Comparing 2010 with 2004, Democrats in 2010 lost just 5 points with white voters, nothing with blacks, and actually gained with all other groups in 2010:  a 5-point gain with Latinos, 2 points with Asians, and one point with "other."  I would attribute the counterintuitive "Asian" improvement in 2010 to either statistical noise or the growing South Asian vote share, or a little of both.  The Latino change is harder to peg.

And keep in mind that with all this data, these are polls like any other, subject to margins of error and confidence intervals.  So some of the changes over time simply could be fictitious.

Ultimately what we see is that the 2010 performance by race showed an across-the-board drop in Democratic support across all racial groups compared to 2008, and much less dramatic change compared to a neutral year.

I wish I could find online the 1994 national House exit poll for comparison, because that's the best tool to compare to 2010 to see if the composition of the electorate hurt us.  Keep in mind the electorate was 83% white in the 1996 Presidential election per the exit poll, and the white electorate in 1994 had to be at least that high.  So for Democrats to perform as poorly in 2010, with a 77%-white electorate, as in 1994, we had to perform worse with whites this past time than in '94, given that we had more nonwhite voters helping us.  So in that sense there definitely is a real drop in white support compared to our previous disaster 16 years earlier.  But we recovered from that later.

All this is to say pointing to one group or another to compare over time has to be done thoroughly with an eye toward recognizing when change in performance is unrelated to race.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Well,
like I've said in a few places, it wouldn't surprise me to see percentage of Hispanic vote going to the Democrats increase, perhaps even surge, if they are targeted. In other words, it's not as if we will be stealing the votes that are already going to the Republicans, just that we will be broadening the base so that we get even more than we are getting now.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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7/28!
Sorry, not my day, but that's even worse!  Did people think they were giving their opinion of Fidel Castro?  Seriously?

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Probably


26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

[ Parent ]
lol
Wouldn't be all that surprised

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

[ Parent ]
Sargent Shriver has passed away.
RIP to a great, illustrious man.

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So little time, so much to know!


I have a friend of the family
who used to work in his household as a governess way back when.

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So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Need Formatting Help
I was about to post an article up on RRH I have been working on and... well, it is just not working. I originally wrote it in Word and did a copy/paste with it and added in the hyperlinks. However, when I went to save it this came up:

Disallowed HTML tag:

I cannot actually post the tag as SSP won't allow me to, but if anybody could illuminate me it would be much appreciated.

I also tried to insert a table I made in Word from a bunch of exit polls, but this too had some problems. Can anybody help? Thanks!

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04


Word is notorious for adding html bloat
In terms of your first problem, cut the document from Word, paste it into Notepad, then paste it into RRH.

Don't know a good, free tool to make table html though.


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Thanks
Just working on the table now. I've tried Excel but I had similar problems, and images seem not to work well either.

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04

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Found a way
I uploaded it to Facebook and then found a url to plug in for the image. It isn't as pretty of a table as I would like like this, but it is better than nothing. The article, on Hispanic voters and the Republican Party, is now up at RRH.


19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04

[ Parent ]
Gonna save this post
I've often wondered how to do charts too in diaries.  

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NJ Redistricting
Here's an article on what might happen in New Jerseys redistricting... http://www.njspotlight.com/sto...

MN-01
Not content with just sitting with Republicans at the State of the Union address, Tim Walz has invited probably his biggest potential rival to attend as his guest.

http://www.bluestemprairie.com/

Today, Congressman Tim Walz announced Republican State Senator Julie Rosen will accompany him to the President's State of the Union address next Tuesday. Both will highlight the need for civility and respect in our national and local debates.


"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

Some Utahns must really dislike Orrin Hatch
I know Jim Matheson is pretty well known and liked out there but I'm still surprised by those head to head numbers against Hatch.  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

Lieberman
His retirement is now confirmed by "a person informed of his decision," says the Times.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes....

I remember seeing the start of the Lamont campaign back in 2006.  They looked like a bunch of amateurs (partly cause they were mostly idealistic volunteers), and they were going up against a CT institution.  And yet, here we are.  Talk about your testaments to the power of grassroots action.

From MO-3, college in CT-3, lived in NH-1, NH-2, PA-2, and MA-8 in the 3 years since.


Just about to post this
This is a good thing. We will get a stronger senator out of CT. McMahon will think she can buy a seat again, and will just flush tons of money down the toilet.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


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I kind of want
the Republican nominee to be someone that drains resources from other states. I'm not sure how we get such a person, however.

If McMahon is going to be a factor, ideally, she'd run for the seat, waste a lot of her money, but lose the primary, all the while bloodying up the victor and making him even less electable than he'd otherwise be.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Dude, this is one you don't have to worry about....
There is no way the Republicans will win this Senate seat next year with Lieberman out. Absolutely no path to victory.

You can chalk this one up in the win column (unless Lieberman changes his mind).  


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Oh, I agree,
but what I am saying is that I hope they are somehow tricked into thinking there is a path, as is usually the case in New Jersey. That way, they drop a lot of money into the state, depriving the Republicans in Missouri, Virginia, Montana, and other states of such money.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Y'all are totally misreading McMahon's performance in a two-person vs. three-person race
She'll actually perform better WITHOUT Lieberman in the mix. With him in the race, she bleeds Republicans, wins zero Democrats, and loses with center-right Independents. Without him, she coalesces the GOP base, wins 10% of Democrats, and at least breaks even with Independents. If Bysiewicz is the nominee, I bet she wins by double-digits with Indies.

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Hard to imagine McWrestler appealing to CT Rs
Not like wrestling, or the attitudes associated with such are popular in the ritzy CT suburbs. Lieberman was perfect for them.

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She won indys in 2008
she would've needed to win them by something like 13 points to break even.  

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No, andyroo, you, not others, are misreading McMahon's strength......
McMahon wouldn't bleed anything at all to Lieberman.  On the contrary, Republicans would coalesce strongly around her as someone who has an arguable path to a plurality in a 3-way, after she already pulled 43% in a 2-way.  Lieberman has no ability to win over Republicans now.  He won Republicans last time for one reason:  Iraq.  The Iraq War is over, that reason is gone, and on all else he's been with the Democrats.  Having endorsed McCain who is distant history to voters, and opposing the public option while otherwise supporting HCR, are not even slightly relevant to Republicans.

McMahon would monopolize Republicans in a 3-way, and Lieberman due to his most recent voting record would draw slightly more Democrats than Republicans.  He'd likely finish 3rd no matter what, but with McMahon as the GOPer, he's likely to hurt us more than them.  We'd still likely win, but it would be only lean D.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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See, I just don't see that at all
I think a lot of the Rob Simmons supporters from '10 would bolt for Lieberman in a three-way.  

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What "supporters" are those???......
Simmons got crushed in the primary, he got a measley 28%.  He finished just 6 points ahead of no-name Peter Schiff.  Simmons got just 34K votes in the primary; McMahon got 60K then and a hair shy of 500K in November.

And what's your notion of the Simmons voter profile that you think those people, few as they are to begin with, would choose Lieberman over McMahon?  If you don't have hard data to support that, it's dubious speculation to say the least.  Simmons never presented himself as any less conservative ideologically than McMahon, his contrast was honorable establishmentarian vs. embarrassing outsider.

I'ts reasonable to assume Simmons voters are like other Republicans:  oppose HCR, oppose the stimulus, and generally oppose the direction Democrats have gone.  Lieberman has gone in that direction, not one Republicans like.

You're fighting the last war, or in this case the last election, in carrying a badly outdated notion of Lieberman's strength.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
The Simmons crowd was hardly fond of McMahon
Yes, ideologically, they're more in line with McMahon than Lieberman, but there was palpable distaste among those 28% of Simmons supporters when it came to McMahon. They were turned-off by her showering of $$$ on the airwaves and saw her as a phony who was ill-suited for the job. Let's not forget that 15% of Republicans bolted for Blumenthal in last year's race. I think many of those old Simmons supporters would still be wary of backing Murphy or Biesywicz, but they surely would've considered Lieberman.

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Republicans don't vote on personal qualities, they vote on issues and ideology......
Lieberman won the GOP vote last time exclusively because of Iraq.  That was the issue of 2006, and Joe had Dubya's back.  That combined with the GOP nominee having no shot at victory, but the Democrat having a shot, caused Republicans to vote for Lieberman.

Ned Lamont won 8% of Republicans in 2006 per the exit poll.  That was in spite of GOPers having both pro-war Lieberman and actual Republican Schlesinger to choose from.  So Blumenthal's 15% is really just a normal uptick with GOPers given one choice instead of two.  Even if Lieberman wins a majority of that 15% in a 3-way, that's still only in the same ballpark as Lamont.

Meanwhile, Lieberman's voting record is simply anathema to Republicans.

Give Republicans a Democrat they dislike and a Repubican they dislike, and they're going to vote for the Republican.  They're going to vote on ideology and issues rather than personal qualities, because that's what partisans do.  Look at most competitive elections in most years, and you'll see that as a rule Republicans have more party loyalty than Democrats.  There's no reason to think a 3-way with Lieberman, McMahon, and Murphy would be any different, especially since a 3-way is the only way a Republican can win, and McMahon would have a plausible path to a plurality.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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They were loyal voters at least
Simmons had already ceased campaigning by the time the primary came around. If they wanted to jet to another candidate campaigning other than McMahon, they had Schiff.

That said, unless you saw a Simmons endorsement I don't see that translating to an Indy candidate like Lieberman necessarily.

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04


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Think Rhode Island
In the Rhode Island gubernatorial race, Republican John Robitaille almost came out of nowhere after trailing for months to win (he came with 2 or 3 points of Chafee).

If it was a standard two-way contest, Frank Caprio would have had the support of a united Democratic Party and would have easily rolled over the Republican, as Democrats did in every other state office.

That is how it seems Connecticut will go.

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04


[ Parent ]
Think Rhode Island
In the Rhode Island gubernatorial race, Republican John Robitaille almost came out of nowhere after trailing for months to win (he came with 2 or 3 points of Chafee).

If it was a standard two-way contest, Frank Caprio would have had the support of a united Democratic Party and would have easily rolled over the Republican, as Democrats did in every other state office.

That is how it seems Connecticut will go.

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04


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Correction
the Dem incumbent in the SoS race actually won only narrowly, but I think he had his own problems. Caprio would have likely steamrolled Robitaille in a 2-way and Chafee would have done so, no question.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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I should probably post this when the announcement is made..
But I have to ask - does anybody know for sure if McMahon will run if Lieberman doesn't? There is no way a Republican will win in Connecticut next year under any circumstances if Lieberman isn't an independent in the race. Even McMahon should be smart enough to know that.  

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I don't think so
She lost in the best year Republicans will see in a long time to a flawed and somewhat uninspiring Democratic candidate. Her "tactic" of blowing her fortune on advertising became more of detriment than an asset as she annoyed the entire state (not to mention most of New York). Ramming your face down people's throats with constant ad buys isn't a strategy, it's a whining child crying for attention. The bottom line is, she had 100% name recognition and voters still rejected her by a healthy margin in a terrific year for her party, against a stronger opponent in a presidential year she'll be toast.

P.S.: one of her weaknesses, her complete lack of experience, will still be unresolved if she runs next cycle. IMO she's got nowhere to go but down.  

NY-01/NY-19


[ Parent ]
Chicago-Mayor: NOW jumps into race for Moseley Braun
Don't think it matters
Even if Braun makes it to a runoff, Rahm has been polling so strong I don't think Braun can catch him.

19, gay male, IL-7, MN 4 (college), Dem

[ Parent ]
IN-Sen: Lugar will run for re-election
He's
one Republican I'd want hanging around. Especially since he's the best we could get in Indiana right now. I hope he sticks it to the Tea Party since he's basically telling them to bring it on.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
also
He almost certainly won't run again in 2018 as he'll be 86, so starting in 2013 he'll be able to vote however he wants on anything without worrying about a primary challenge.

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
in the 113th congress
either david vitter or jim demint will be committee chairs, depending whether snowe wants to keep small business or replace hutchison on commerce. shudder

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

Just noticing the differences in messages between here and at RRH
Especially w/r/t those posters who choose to post on both boards.

It feels like some users who post here and at RRH are saying different things about the same topics.

Some of it is probably emphasis, and a customizing of a message to a target market. Perhaps it's just human nature that people who post on sites with different PoV will say different things.

OTOH, some dual posters seem incredibly consistent.

Or maybe I'm just seeing things.


Well, I've noticed...
... there's a commentator krazen- something (a Republican) who posts perfectly sensible, unobjectionable horse-race analysis here but also extremely hostile/screedish posts on Ezra Klein's blog.

Oh well, at least it shows people are following (mostly) the rules of the site.  


[ Parent ]
I know who you're talking about
I remember him for his homophobia and right-wing talking points. Got banned from SSP.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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[ Parent ]
And the tired old crap
about business-friendliness in TX vs. CA.

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[ Parent ]
And....
justified a doomed attempt by teabaggers to recall Sen. Menendez.  He also called Menendez "useless" in his justification.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Ah, so I guess he *didn't* follow the rules here
I guess the obnoxious persona who showed up on Ezra's blog couldn't be suppressed.  

[ Parent ]
Unusual Friends: Rand Paul and Al Franken?
http://www.politico.com/news/s...
Buried at the bottom of the 1st-top of 2nd page. Probably the most ideological members of each caucus, and they are good friends. Franken must be a likeable guy though, he was also one of Joe Cao's best friends in congress.  

In the best tradition of Paul Wellstone
Good friends with Jesse Helms.

[ Parent ]
I once read years ago that Franken is good friends with G. Gordon Liddy. Seriously. (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Franken must be primaried!


[ Parent ]
I think
I think you mean Rand must be primaried, because that's what they seem to do a lot more of on the right. lol  Don't let Kentucky find this out.

[ Parent ]
I wouldn't be surprised.
In one part of the article, Rand mentioned he may sometimes work with liberal Democrats.  

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04

[ Parent ]
Well
there is a precedent in the family for that. His father worked closely with Alan Grayson and Bernie Sanders on auditing the Federal Reserve.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Strangely enough,
I could see that. After all, just because someone has very different beliefs than you doesn't mean they aren't friendly and likable. I think Darrell Issa and Bill Kristol are gigantic tools, but they seem perfectly affable on television.

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
The far right seems to be coalescing around Radtke in VA-SEN
My early assumption that the far right field would be crowded with Radtke, Corey Stewart, Bob Marshall and/or a handful of Some Dudes who would each get ~5-10% and allow Allen to coast by with ~60-70% of the vote, similar to Hurt in VA-05 last year. That could still happen, but it's seeming less likely now. If Radtke gets an endorsement from someone like Cucinelli, she probably has a shot at the nomination.  

Male, VA-08

I can't imagine Cuccinelli endorsing Radtke......
Cuccinelli is a loathesome dipshit, but not as big a dipshit as Sarah Palin.  I can't see him shooting himself in the foot by endorsing a far right longshot nutjob over perfectly conservative establishmentarian like George Allen who has broad support across the GOP electorate.  If Cooch did that and lost, it would be the end of his career.  He wants to be Governor, it kills him to alienate Allen.  On the other hand, if he stays out of it or endorses Allen and Radtke pulls off the upset, Cooch is still OK for having simply followed the crowd.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
No he's not
Remember the shellacking Gingrich took at the hands of conservative Republicans for endorsing Scozzafava?

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Doesn't quite seem the same situation
Allen is establishment, but he's no Scozzafava style moderate conservative.

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

[ Parent ]
Scozzafava was no moderate or conservative
Being pro-choice is one thing, but a conservative supporting Card Check? No way, like Jews for Jesus or something.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


[ Parent ]
Young of AK does.
So does Cravaack.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
I'll give you Cravaack there
He does come from a very unique set of circumstances, as a former union member in a labor stronghold that until 2010 was impossible for Republicans to win. But he's still more conservative than Scozz on most fiscal issues, and NY-23 is a more Republican district than MN-08. For me, the only real problem I had with Scozzafava was her endorsement of Owens, not her policy positions which weren't too different from Rockefeller Republicans like Sherwood Boehlart.

Young, on the other hand, is corrupt needs to be primaried for reasons that have nothing to do with his stance on EFCA or any of his other political views. Probably one of my least favorite members of the House GOP.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
But, but... they exist
Kinky Friedman, the Jewish cowboy humorist, always lists Jesus as one of his favorite Jews.

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04

[ Parent ]
I suppose this is not the place to debate contrasting perceptions of the political spectrum


Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

[ Parent ]
I kind of have a feeling cooch will stay neutral
Unless he really believes Radtke will win, that's probably the best move for him politically.

Male, VA-08

[ Parent ]
Bingaman & Kohl & Webb potential retirements
http://www.rollcall.com/news/-...

The usual suspects...but I think Kohl is probably retiring. We haven't heard a word from him about reelection, and his fundraising his pretty pathetic.  

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


Kohl doesn't fundraise
He self funds all of his campaigns.  

[ Parent ]
i can't believe
i never thought of that. i still think he'll retire, and kind is definitely in line and a strong candidate. but your right.

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

[ Parent ]
I'd like to see Feingold run
if Kohl retires.

[ Parent ]
My personal preference
Feingold 2012/Kind 2016 to take out Ron Johnson. I like both of them, but it'll be easier for Feingold to win a dem held open seat when Obama is almost certainly carrying the state then it will be to take out an incumbent in 2016, so we should save the better candidate for then. Kind/Feingold would be a great pair of senators.

Male, VA-08

[ Parent ]
I like Feingold, personally...
But I don't think he was a very effective senator. It's up to Wisconsin, of course, and there's always the political trivia-master side of me that wants cool unusual things like Feingold being elected to Wisconsin's other Senate seat to happen...but I'd rather see Rep. Kind or Steve Kagen run for Senate if Sen. Kohl hangs it up.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Iowa Senate district 35
It's a GOP hold in Iowa Senate district 35, which means that (assuming no further special elections), Democrats will have a 26-24 majority in the Iowa Senate this year and next. Republicans have a 60-40 majority in the Iowa House.

enthusiasm gap
I certainly hope it won't be as big a factor in 2012. That killed us in Iowa, where GOP turnout was nearly 69 percent (of 646,396 registered Republicans, 445,829 voted), while Democratic turnout was only 56.5 percent (of 698,227 registered Democrats, 394,252 voted).

That explains how Terry Branstad could win IA-Gov by 10 percent (more than 100K votes), yet start his term with net negative approval ratings, according to PPP.


Partly but not fully
It's part of politics today that people coming into office will have net disapproval.  Iowa shows how Obama can win easily in 2012 even with 45 or 43% favorables.  It just takes an opponent with worse, or much worse, favorables.

[ Parent ]
disagree
I think a sizable majority of incoming Govs have net positives.  Cuomo is something like 71/10 (Spitzer territory!).  PPP has 4 of 7 new Govs double digit positive.  
http://publicpolicypolling.blo...
And PPP is known for having some of the more negative approvals out there. (Kasich is positive in this poll):  http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/...  

I think that unless the campaign was SUPER negative (Scott in Florida), that people usually wait a bit before hating their new representatives.


[ Parent ]
Yeah, there's no trend of incoming electeds being underwater, that makes no sense......
People almost always give new elected officials the benefit of doubt.

Branstad is an exception specifically because he's a retread from yesteryear, and people were already familiar with him and tired of him.  But they disliked Culver much more strongly, so Branstad easily won.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
some good news
Giffords appears to have full use of both hands and is moving out of the hospital to a rehab center on Friday! She's a machine.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/...

41, Ind, CA-05


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[ Parent ]
Keep up the great work!
I still can't believe that for an hour everyone thought she had passed on the morning of the shooting.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
errors
The screencap of CNN and others announcing that she was dead should become as infamous as Dewey Defeats Truman. Word gets around a lot faster these days, but news organizations should worry less about being first and more about being accurate.

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
NPR is culpable.
They took what a sheriff asserted and reported it right away without taking time to corroborate.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
For a 20-minute period, her husband believed it too.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41...

For about 20 minutes, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' husband broke down in a plane's bathroom after believing incorrect media reports that his wife had been fatally shot at a political event outside a supermarket.

Astronaut Mark Kelly said he had rushed aboard a friend's plane to fly to Arizona after hearing of the shooting in Tucson, and that he saw the television report while traveling.



Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
This woman is crazy
I can't believe how well she's doing. go, Gabby, go!

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
At this rate she'll be in the Senate
Before Kyl even retires!

[ Parent ]
Reid to replace Biden as VP
How else to explain this amazing gem.

"the president of China. He is a dictator. He can do a lot of things through the form of government they have."

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


How is that at all relevant
To any particular election?

[ Parent ]
Isn't he thought? lol


[ Parent ]
Judge John Roll saved an aide's life.
He pushed the aide down and made himself a human shield.  He also pushed away two bystanders who were close to the gunman.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


TX-Sen: Dewhurst, Paul lead the GOP primary field
You mean
"Raul", not that other word.  checks for fanboys  Phew, I don't think they heard you.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
yes
he's now officially Pon Raul

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

[ Parent ]
Back in 2007 and 2008, I remember saying...
"Gee, I wish the rest of the Republicans took Rep. Paul seriously." And now they want to play chicken on the debt ceiling with a government default on the line.

Be careful what you wish for, that's the lesson here.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


[ Parent ]
Some good cat fud
Erik Erickson has already taken to calling Dewhurst "Dewcrist"

[ Parent ]
Why?
Did Dewhurst shake hands with a Democrat?

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Support Amnesty
Pretty much makes you persona non grata at Redstate.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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To that site
Even supporting a guest worker program makes you an "amnesty-loving" liberal.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Do you know
off hand if Erickson supported Haley in South Carolina and Martinez in New Mexico? I remember seeing on television after the electing crowing about how the Republicans elected the first non-white, female governors in the country.

Anyway, perhaps this will turn out to be one more piece of evidence that the Democrats will have an opening in this race.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Yes
The NM Gov race wasnt mentioned until Palin endorsed Martinez, but he was a huge Haley supporter going all the way back to early 2009.  

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