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SSP Daily Digest: 1/7

by: Crisitunity

Fri Jan 07, 2011 at 2:47 PM EST


• ND-Sen: This may be the earliest the air wars have ever been launched, especially in a Senate race, but there's already a major ad duel going on in the tiny (and dirt cheap) state of North Dakota, probably with an eye toward goading Kent Conrad into retirement (or backing him up so he doesn't get any ideas). On the GOP side, mysterious Iowa-based IE group American Action Forum fired the first shots (worth only $60K), hitting Conrad over TARP and HCR; Dem group Commonsense Ten fired back (for $30K, all radio), defending his fiscal hawkishness. And now comes word that Conrad himself is also going to dip into his war chest starting next week, also hitting back against AAF. NWOTSOTB, but it'll be a 60-second radio ad that runs all week. The bright side to the Conrad early alarm bells: that doesn't seem like the action of a man contemplating retirement.

• KY-Gov: In Kentucky, incumbent Dem Gov. Steve Beshear just filed his papers for re-election, coming up in November. As expected, his running mate will be former Louisville mayor Jerry Abramson, rather than Dan Mongiardo. Beshear is sitting on $3.5 million for the race; while that's a lot more than the $624K that the GOP David Williams/Richie Farmer ticket has, note that Williams only started raising in the last quarter of 2010 and pulled in $753K. Williams' tea-flavored GOP primary rival, businessman Phil Moffett, has only an $8K balance after raising $20K last quarter but spending $30K. (UPDATE: Here's one other breaking bit of news that's an interesting consideration: GOP Secretary of State Trey Grayson has sped up his getting-the-hell-out-of-Kentucky timeline, resigning shortly to take a job at Harvard's Institute of Politics. That means Beshear gets to appoint a Dem to the SoS position, increasing the chances of holding the position in 2011. Beshear just announced that Bowling Green mayor Elaine Walker will get the position.)

• MT-Gov: Also on the financial front, ex-Rep. Rick Hill is in pole position among the various contestants for Montana's open gubernatorial seat. He's raised $103K so far (Montana, of course, is a small and cheap state), compared with fellow GOP rival Corey Stapleton's $86K so far. The only Dem who has declared, state Sen. Dave Wanzenried, has raised a grand total of $2K, leaving me to wonder if insiders expect AG Steve Bullock to get in shortly. (Bullock has raised $73K, although that could be used for either a gube or AG bid.)

• GA-08: Add ex-Rep. Jim Marshall to the growing list of Dems interested in trying to fight their way back into the House two years from now, saying he's not sure but "won't preclude" another run. With the GOP controlling redistricting in Georgia, though, Marshall might find himself with an even-more-unfriendly 8th in 2012.

• OH-06: And here's one more to add: Charlie Wilson says "I would like to run again," but with one big caveat: that there's a district drawn that's "somehow fair" for him. The GOP also controls the process in Ohio but will probably also need to chop at least one GOP-held seat, which may well come out of the state's depopulated southeast quadrant. A mashup of the swingy 6th and the more-reddish 18th would be less favorable to Wilson than the seat he just lost.

• California: Finally, here's another interesting data dump from Greg Giroux, looking at how California's gubernatorial and Senate races from 2010 broke down according to congressional district. If you're looking for an indication of how polarized (and/or expertly gerrymandered for incumbent protection) California's districts are, there was almost no deviation between how the House races broke and the statewide races broke. The only deviations: Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina both won in Jerry McNerney's CA-11, while Jerry Brown eked it out in Dan Lungren's CA-03.
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Looking
at those California numbers. Wow! I expected Whitman and Fiorina to carry McNerney's district since it was drawn to protect Pombo, but I expected them to carry at least Costa's district. Quite a surprise Boxer and Brown won his district since the GOP was accusing Democrats of wanting to create another dust bowl/depression in the Central Valley.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12
Bad news for Lungren going forward
I was impressed McNerney won already but now more so because Harmer was better than many Repubs that did win.
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Lungren's fate is all in the hands of the commission
The dummymander was too much for any Dem to overcome, and any similar district should keep him safe (if scandal free).  An aggressive gerrymander like should have been done ten years ago would sink him.

But a non-partisan map is a real coin flip.  It could easily give him a safe district or a highly competitive one.

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It's a shame the SoS deleted those statewide result maps
(at least I can't find them on the SoS site, they aren't on the URLs they were in early December).

They dodn't have the Congressional district data like on the link today, but they showed graphically by county how all the races went, and clearly showed how Democrats can carry not just Lungren's district, but that broad northeast-centralish area around him.

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Those URLs
get taken down when the results are certified in early December. The results can be found here. The Supplemental Statement of Vote, which contains governor and Senate results by district, will be out sometime in April.

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Yes good to have the county results
but sad to lose the maps which were much more convenient viewing.
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I expect Republicans will dump Macon into GA-02
so Marshall will probably be left without a district to run in.
Either that or into GA-12


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Ideally for the GOP
GA-02 and GA-12 would meet in Macon, allowing them to take up the western and eastern halves of the black belt in Georgia. The question will be, of course, whether there is enough population south of Macon to draw full districts for both Kingston and Scott. If not, GA-08 will have to snake up through Macon and take in some Central GA counties to reach its population threshold. (All of this, of course, assumes that the GOP doesn't attack Barrow.)

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08
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I fully expect them
to go after Barrow. It all depends on how much risk danger Kingston and Broun are willing to accept.
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In Kingston's case
I'd bet on somewhere around zero. He made a big fuss 10 years ago to not take Savannah into his district and he has a ton more clout now.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke
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Interestingly,
It was in his district until the Democrats scooped it out in 2002 to create the old 12th. It is telling that he kept it out when the Republicans remapped in 2004. If he had been willing to take it then, Barrow surely would have lost in 2006.

If Kingston won't take it, then Barrow is guaranteed at least a district he can win. If he keeps Augusta, he has a seat as safe as the one he currently holds.  

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Yup
I played with GA on Dave's a couple weeks ago and I honestly don't see a doable option to collapse either of the two downstate CDs, more likely the legislature takes the slamdunk with the new district in the north exubs of Atlanta and makes the downstate seats slightly more GOP friendly, but a mashup of the districts on cracking Barrow's isn't doable without hurting the GOPers around them (not that the districts wouldn't still be solidly GOP, but what the NRCC thinks is safe and what Kinston think is safe are VERY different things).

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke
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Interstingly,
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Look at their map that failed pre-clearence
http://web.archive.org/web/200...

Doesn't that want to make you puke?

What they ultimately did when they got control is more compact:

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/l...

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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Well, saying that it "failed preclearance"
is a bit of spin, I think. The Democrats, knowing that the Bush DoJ was going to give them trouble, sued for declaratory judgement in the D.C. Circuit. That senate plan was actually approved by the Supreme Court in Georgia v. Ashcroft, but then struck down on population equity grounds by a different federal court. The Supreme Court refused to grant cert, over Scalia's dissent, in that case (Larios v. Cox).
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The Old Georgia 11th
Seeing this map reminded me of what had to be the single most ridiculous congressional districts ever drawn, the old Georgia 11th:

http://web.archive.org/web/200...

Dems could have won it in '02 had Roger Kahn and Buddy Darden not taken jackhammers to each other in the primary. Instead we got Phil Gingrey....  

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In retrospect
I wonder what would have been a better Democratic strategy for getting that 7th district.

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If you could get a court to draw a special master.....
If you could somehow get a court to draw a special master for Georgia, I think Dems could have a shot at electing possibly as many three suburban seats in Atlanta. Said special master would, in metro Atlanta:

a)Create an entirely Gwinnett County District. Depending on how you cut it, you could end up with anything from a solid GOP seat to a Dem leaning one that will get much more Democratic very quickly.

b)Keep Cobb County whole in one district (lets call it the 11th). McCain only carried Cobb 54-45; maybe not today, and maybe not even tomorrow, but.....

c)Craete a new Rockdale-Newton-Henry-Dekalb leftovers-Gwinett leftovers seat (call it the 14th) that would be very interesting from the beginning.

d)There would be two majority black districts: Atlanta Fulton (5th), DeKalb (4th), and a plurality black Clayton-Douglas-Fayette-Fulton Leftovers (13th); all solid Dem seats. There would also be a fortress GOP Atlanta North seat, the 6th based in North Fulton-Forsyth-Cherokee.


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MT-Gov/Sen
I have no idea how close (or not) Rehberg & Hill are, but it sure looks like Hill want to make sure Rehberg either runs for Senate or re-election - at least making it clear he won't have a clear shot to the Governor's mansion.

I also hear Rehberg owns his residence on CH, I'm sure that doesn't mean too much since it's easy to rent or sell a nice property around there (it's somewhere around 8th & A NE from what I was told), but if he was sharing a group house with 5 other members you might think he's looking to be back in MT year round.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke

Rehberg
Earlier today, Rehberg was named chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor/HHS/Education. Perhaps a chairmanship, particularly one which he can use to try to defund health care reform implementation, will dissuade him from running for MT-SEN or MT-GOV?

"Look, I just got the chairmanship," Rehberg said. "I'm going to spend as much time as I possibly can educating myself on these (subcommittee) issues."

He went on to say he wasn't taking any political options off the table, echoing a comment he made a few weeks after his 2010 victory.

"Those kinds of decisions will be made down the road," he said.

Asked to elaborate about how long "down the road" would be, he said, "Down the road."

http://billingsgazette.com/new...

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On the flip
A good way to get himself in the news and at the forefront of their campaign. Lots of Montanans wanting repeal or at least defunding will appreciate it.
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House Appropriations
Being the Sub-Committee chair on House Appropriations might not be that much fun anymore when the tea party caucus starts throwing shoes at you during mark-ups.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke
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Also true
We will have to just wait and see. I figure lots of these races will be shaped by the candidates. Last year proved that. IL would likely have been a hold with someone without Alexi's baggage, Tommy Thompson may well have lost to Feingold and we all know about DE, NV and to some extent CO.
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For Some of Them
But Labor-HHS is enormous. Along with Defense it'd seem the prize subcommittee.
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if he runs for senate
there's the possibility that he'll be giving up his spot in the house majority for the senate minority.  nothing's written in stone ofc, but it's possible that dems keep the senate, but fail to regain the house and that has to be a factor.

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Rehberg has a huge ranch.
He's sitting on $20 million+. Probably closer to 30. I don't think a residence would be an issue at all, even if he had to sell it short.

18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)
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NV-Pres: Obama at 50/46 approval, up 1, 10, 11, 13 over Mitt, Huck, Newt, Palin
Looks like a blue state
Sans Romney. Odd indies like him so much. Mormons can't explain that.
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He's in a bad spot, though
Romney will have to tack hard to the right - and very visibly so - in order to have any hope of overcoming the Romneycare/abortion stuff that will be thrown at him in the primary. He's in a similar place as Sen. McCain was in 2008, but Republicans have been vocal about not wanting another "moderate" (although McCain was anything but by the time of the general election campaign).

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native
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Yup
Couldn't agree more. And the Club for Growth people don't trust Huckabee on economics. Their best bet may well be Daniels. But he has Bush trouble. I guarentee Obama would make more of it than Lee Fisher ever could.
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Daniels had the luck (or the instinct?) to get out of Washington before everything went to hell
But I would bet Obama and other Dems, with their constant talk about the budget, will make a lot of hay out of Daniels' role at the OMB in calculating the cost of the war in Iraq, fair or not.  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09
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CFG hates Daniels, too...
Remember that Daniels said a few months ago that taxes would have to be raised.  I don't know who's goading him into running.  It certainly isn't the right wing think tanks.  They are actively working to sabotage his candidacy.
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Oy Vey....
Marry Bono Mack.

http://www.advocate.com/News/D...

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

WOW
Why couldn't this have surfaced before the election? We could have actually won it had this came out in time. I think this equals a Bono Mack retirement. I don't think she'll resign. Could be wrong though.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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Is this the photo from earlier?
If so, then I can't find it in myself to be a moral scold about it. I oppose her because she wrong on the issues, not because she is in a racy party photo.  
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Did
you read the article though? I'm more concerned with the background of the person. Sounds very shady. Plus the picture, despite our personal views, is not the behavior befitting a member of Congress. And yes they are usually and rightly so held to a higher standard, like it or not. Had this been in college then I'd be with you saying no biggie but you shouldn't do that as a member of Congress. Plus to my earlier point it was a rather shady person doing it. I would think this does affect her electoral prospects in 2012. Maybe it doesn't hurt her too much, its too early to tell. Wouldn't be the first time I've overreacted.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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Higher moral standard?
No, I hold her to the same standard as anyone else I know. As to the rest of the story, apparently she took campaign contributions from someone with a shady business background. Sounds bad, and maybe it is, but you can say that about a lot of members of Congress.
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Let's
agree to disagree on your first sentence. As to the second that could very well be true. Not always though, Jack Abbernoff (SP, I Know). It could be a big deal depending on the severity of offense of the donator and how close they are. Plus the photo added to it doesn't help her any. Assuming this photo is real of course.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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At least it wasn't Bob Barr licking her
....

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09
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Ewwww!
Thank you so much for that image.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)
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:D


Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09
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i don't think it'll matter
she didn't break the law or be a hypocrite

ensign, vitter, spitzer, souder, massa, packwood, etc. there's a laundry list of people that were worse

then there are those like lee terry, who's known as a philanderer among washington insiders, or i'm sure many others.

if she were a democrat, i'd still support her

i think we're overreacting

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

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Actually, now that I've got the usual bizarre joke out of my system
Are we sure of the veracity of that image? Looks kind of fishy to me.

In all honesty even if it is genuine I don't think this is the kind of thing that sinks a Congressional career, but maybe I'm wrong. It's embarrassing, but I don't think many people who voted for her previously are going to be considering this scandalous debauchery (snark warning) when they're in the voting booth two years from now.  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

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Yeah.
I looked at it closer and it does look rather fishy. Does anyone know if the source is a credible one? I just assumed it was.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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RadarOnline doesn't have the best relationship with accuracy
Remember that rumor last year that John Roberts was resigning from the Supreme Court?  Guess where it came from:

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/03...

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)


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FL-Sen
This could affect the Florida Senate race too. Her husband is Connie Mack IV, who is considered a likely candidate against Bill Nelson in 2012. These photos might hurt him in a primary with the family-values crowd.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08
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Shame on them
But it would be in keeping. And it's their party; they can run it as they wish.
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Somewhere in Florida
Connie Mack just threw a brick threw a window.  I think they'll both be fine though...this seems like a non-issue in the long run.

Male, 23, NJ-12
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Snore
Slow news day apparently.  Nobody gives a shit about somebody getting their breast licked, maybe, at a party four years ago, nor should they.
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I didn't say it was a big deal.
It's just a tad bit ridiculous and her connection to the billionaire boob licker at the center of a FBI investigation.  

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)
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Others commented as if it mattered
It's just a silly thing that isn't even that embarrasing, since she isn't the booblicker.
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Your right
the boob licking is a none issue. The personal relationship with an ethics challenged billionaire is.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)
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booblicking at a party isn't really a personal relationship
and it was four years ago, and any politician (or any person) doesn't have some "ethics challenged" friends, then they don't have enough friends.

Anyone who votes for candidates based on how sucky one of their friends is should be sent to citizenship class for a month.  

Did Mack do something to benefit this friend in a corrupt way?  If the answer is yes, then there is something here.

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I really don't see how it gets anymore personal,
but you know what, I digress.  

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)
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Another point of view.
She is a sitting member of Congress not a teenager. Maybe its because I'm older but I just don't think this is right. If she was younger and in college then I could care less. I can't tell you all the stupid stuff I did. But yes I think a grown up Congresswoman would know better than to do such behavior. I don't care if she was at a party on her own time, it doesn't matter. It's childish and immature. It's not resign worthy and won't be the end to her but it still isn't right. I plain and simply don't get all the defense of Bono Mack. I'm not saying get in an uproar about it but it almost seems as if I'm the only one who thinks this was even a slight no-no.  I wasn't offended by the image itself but yes this geezer still holds to the I suppose dying tradition of holding Members of Congress to a higher standard. I think this should matter, it shouldn't be of limits. This is of course if the pic is real, not a definite thing.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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Oh
and for the record my first post was a patented hoosierdem overreaction.  

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I'm 45
I think that's older than you, isn't it? And I consider this a non-story.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  
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Oh no
I didn't mean to say age like an  "I know better than you" type thing I just meant it as a different perspective. Meaning I thought the current youth might see it as more ok to do this than people my age. I don't thinks its wrong for normal citizens but my point is members of Congress should be held to a higher standard. I don't think it's a huge story but I think it should be covered and action (apology and a slap on the wrist) should be taken.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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I agree with Pan
This is the type of issue that seems to mostly intrigue 20ish people.  Not only the extreme prudes, older voters have seen many more interesting things and don't give a shit about it.  They care about jobs and non-corruption.

Maybe more obviously, Vitter wore diapers with a hooker, and nobody cared.

She has nothing to apologize for largely because it is nobody's business who she dances with, or whatever they are doing.

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I understand Hoosierdem on this.

Just I'm asking to myshelf. What can think someone like Sharron Angle about this?
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I agree
Though, as you mentioned upthread, I'm more concerned with the breastlicker's sketchy personal profile. Not long from now, we'll have to start contending with Generation Xers and Millennials running for office, and they'll each have museums of Facebook and Myspace photos that proudly display all kinds of sinning and debauchery. It's a bridge we'll have to cross someday. But Mack isn't a college coed, she's a member of Congress and should act accordingly. And I assure you, not just old geezers think politicians should behave with slightly more dignity. It's not the most offensive thing I've ever read/seen about a politician by far, but still inappropriate for a person of her stature.  

NY-01/NY-19
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What was inappropriate?
1)  It doesn't even look like the boob is being licked

2)  She clearly isn't inviting it

3)  She looks like she is talking to someone else while another person in front of her is sticking out her tongue

In Iran wearing a tanktop might be inappropriate, thankfully that's not true in Palm Springs.

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I just ask myself
if this would make me vote against a candidate I otherwise liked. Easy answer: no.  
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You not, and I not

but I'm sure they are a lot of conservative republicans in her district what think she is too much liberal. And this pick will confirm it in their mind.

This is just what a teabagger need for a primary.

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Teabagging didn't hurt her last time.
And we have top 2 now, so it is even less likely she will get teabagged out, unless somehow she fails to make the top 2.

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In a district like this

It is very difficult to see two candidates of the same party in a R+3 district if I remember well. The result of the top-2 can be the same than the result of the habitual primaries. The first of every party going to the general.

But even in a R+20 constituency, where two republicans can go to the general, you can see a "liberal" republican teabagged (like Bennett in Utah) because it is not easy the "liberal" wins the second place in the primary.

I would be not happy in the case of M Bono Mack. This can promote a teabag movement against her, and that can hurt her prospect of run statewide sometime.

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I think you just described why many of the best and brightest avoid politics.
Who would want to be held to some moral standard that is arbitrary and abstract and only understood when the line is crossed. To be judged by a bunch of people who have likely crossed similar lines yet hypocritically feel offended that a congressman/woman was involved in some sexual act that any human in nature would likely be perfectly fine with (specialy if they were a particant) can't be appealing to an intelligent mind. The only reason this is considered bad is because she has a title next to her name and religion which is still popular in this country despite all the holes science has punched into it shuns penises, vaginas and boobs. Don't forget this is the digital age where sexual acts are much more likely to become public then they ever were before. I understand where your coming from though and I don't think your a hypocrite like many people who claim "morality" but its a very silly and stupid standard to begin with. My only problem with this is that she is partying with lobbyist allthough the whole thing could be a fake. But if she is going to lose her seat i'd rather beat her by pointing out how her votes are hurting her constituents rather then useing an anti-sex/socialization for people in congress campaign. If I lived in the district and her democratic opponent made that the only piece of his or her campaign (or for that matter a signifigant piece of the campaign) I would vote for Mack.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  
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I think we're off-track
To clarify, I'm most offended she is literally this close to such sketchy lobbyists. I don't want to get into a fight over conflicting morals, and I cede that mine, in this instance, are somewhat arbitrary. But I still maintain her actions are not befitting of her office. I live by the credo that there's a time and place for everything and that place is college. But seriously, I just think it's unbecoming of our leaders to be partying it up with billionaire lobbyists in such a manner. I don't think that's so controversial. I certainly don't want to bring religion into this. Just my views.  

NY-01/NY-19
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Also I concur, taken alone, this is no reason to vote against her
n/t

NY-01/NY-19
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Right the lobbyist part is the only thing that offends me
but I could care less if a member of congress did something stupid (from a pr perspective) if it was personal (as long as no physical harm/conflict of interest for the job was involved) and is only in trouble because some jackass decided to sell pictures. I get that you want to avoid a religous battle but its less about that and more about arbtrary undefined morality that these congressmen/women have to have rather then say some intellectual ability. That being said I think people like David Vitter or Eliot Spitzer should be forced out of office for breaking the laws that they help write.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  
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Spitzer aggressively prosecuted
just the types of prostitution rings he patronized. And he wasn't doing a good job as Governor before that came out. Therefore, I supported his resignation, though look what came of that! But I still think it's pretty damn interesting that the identities of all the other clients never were publicized.

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As Sonny used to say, "I got you Babe."

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You said it.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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Is she a 19 year old with a facebook page?
Im 24 and was quite glad the day I went through my page and got rid of the drunk ones.  You hit a age and it's like, do I really need a camera at parties?  No.
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Thanks Trey!
This will piss off a lot of Republicans. He just gave us a big statewide office that we can hold in a year. I'd say this means he's done with politics for good.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
King Beshear strikes again.
I do hope he wins strongly this year.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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What's up with Trey?
Is he still feeling ashamed for losing badly in the Senate primary and wants out of politics?

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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Yeah
I think he's still embarrassed/ashamed about how things went over and just wants to start a new chapter in his life and get on with it. And yeah this makes me think he's done with politics for good . Giving King Beshear a nice chance to help the dems and moving to liberal elitist Harvard is not going to help him in a Republican primary.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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Say
Since Richie Farmer is Williams' running mate, do the Democrats have a strong candidate for Ag Commissioner?

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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Also...
I heard that State Sen. Williams has been making himself busy blocking most of Beshear's initiatives.  Will him running this year mean his departure from the State Senate?

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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No
he doesn't have to give up his seat in the state senate to run. He'll be around halting the Beshear agenda as much as he can. We do have a good candidate on our side for AC. A former Judge and top Beshear cabinet official. I think if Beshear wins he'll probably win as well.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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He really shouldnt
A lot better known and more established GOPers went down to a lot worse candidates in tea-party fueled rage.
[ Parent ]
That's true


Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
[ Parent ]
Still hard to believe
Trey Grayson went from seriously considering a run for A-G (which he would have a good chance of winning), to not running for anything, to leaving quickly.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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I guess if I had lost a major primary to Rand Paul
I probably wouldn't be too happy about being in politics either.  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09
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