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IL-Gov: Quinn Wins (And Other Updates)

by: Crisitunity

Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 5:32 PM EDT


IL-Gov: The DGA is sending 'round a press release congratulating Pat Quinn on his who'da-thunk-it re-election victory. No official call yet, but the trendlines in the count (with a margin now of 20,000 votes) make it pretty clear what's happening. Bill Brady says he isn't ready to concede... yet. UPDATE: CNN has called it.

CT-Gov: More vacillation in the Connecticut count, this time with Dan Malloy back on top by about 6,000 votes. This doesn't seem to have anything to do with actual counting, but simply with the AP getting its facts straight (it seemed to be missing a large slab of urban and assumedly heavily Democratic votes, mostly from New Haven). Final tallies remain unknown because we're still waiting on Bridgeport (another Dem stronghold), although SoS Susan Bysiewicz has promised results by the end of the day. (Doesn't seem like she'll make it, though.) Relatedly, Dan Debicella in CT-04 is "waiting and seeing" what the Bridgeport situation is before conceding, although that race has already been called against him.

FL-Gov: This was pretty well decided yesterday, but Alex Sink officially conceded, finalizing the transaction on Rick Scott's self-financed purchase of the gubernatorial election.

NE-Sen: Ben Nelson says he won't switch parties. (Why the heck would he want to, considering that the Dems still have a Lieberman-proof majority in the Senate, that he's part of? He'd just get teabagged to death in the 2012 GOP primary a la poor Parker Griffith.) It's worth wondering, though, if any House Dems are considering a switch... but, with the possible exception of Dan Boren, all of the most likely suspects have already lost, saving us the trouble of such speculation. UPDATE: Although here's an interesting post-script to the Nelson story: GOP Gov. Dave Heineman, who's led a few hypothetical polls against Nelson for 2012, has already announced that he won't run for the Senate in two years.

NV-Sen: The one major race where the polls really seemed off was Nevada, where Harry Reid's 4-pt average deficit turned into a 5-point victory and in retrospect, that's easy to explain: pollsters weren't reaching Latinos. Exit polls suggest that Latinos did turn out well in Nevada (thanks in no doubt to the Reid-friendly hotel unions in Las Vegas). Nate Silver graphs the variance in other states with large Latino populations: it may also have played a role in Colorado, although the poll variance wasn't as bad there, though it was enough to predict a Ken Buck victory... and Latino turnout didn't seem to work in Texas, where Rick Perry exceeded polling predictions (and which explains the sudden and probably brief appearance of Rep. Blake Farenthold).

KY-06: Here's a race that's definitely going to recount. Andy Barr, trailing Ben Chandler by about 600 votes, has formally requested a "routine recanvass."

NC-02: Here's one more race where we're not quite dead yet. Bob Etheridge hasn't conceded, it turns out, nor should he: he's down only 1,646 votes, after cutting his deficit against Renee Elmers by more than 500 in late counting yesterday.

NC-11: When Heath Shuler announced that he'd challenge Nancy Pelosi for Speaker, the proper response was laughter, although my main question at the time was whether he planned to challenge her for minority leader. It sounds like, yes, he does still plan to go through with his kooky gambit (made all the kookier because there aren't any core Blue Dogs left besides him who need to follow through on their promises to not vote for Pelosi). Anyway, the scuttlebutt seems to be leaning toward a voluntary sword-falling and a painless transition to Steny Hoyer, in which case the Shuler challenge would be even more pointless.

WV-01: After maintaining for most of yesterday that he wasn't dead yet (given the narrow margin, currently 1,357), Mike Oliverio did wind up conceding eventually late yesterday.

Redistricting: As much as the mess in the state legislatures really messes up hopes of wresting an advantage out of the redistricting process, here's some good news: Amendment 6 in Florida surprisingly passed, clearing the super-high 60% hurdle at 63%. This doesn't create a commission, but it does impose requirements that redistricting be done without political consideration (but without violating federal law, namely the Voting Rights Act). However, two U.S. Reps... probably the two in Florida who have the most to lose from having less friendly districts drawn for them... Corrine Brown and Mario Diaz-Balart, are challenging the law in court. With the passage of Proposition 20 in California, though, which creates an independent redistricting commission there, it's all kind of a wash, as a less-bad Florida map is balanced out by not being able to aggressively redistrict California. (Similarly, while it takes some sting out of Alex Sink's narrow loss, it also deflates the impact of Jerry Brown's victory.)

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That would be HUGE if Heinemann doesn't run.  He's the Hoeven for NE that could push Nelson to retire.

Nelson gets the Ag committee with lincoln's loss, right.  We might wnat to pander to him a bit for a re-run in NE in 2012.  He's really the only hope we have there, and Obama did win one of the district sin 2010 (though I doubt he will in 2012, still he's not as toxic there as he is in in OK)


If he gets that Chair
I'll bet he can spoil NE with farm subsidies until they somewhat like him again.  Thank G-d Heinemann isn't running, he'd win for sure.

I know Nelson's been a pain in the ass, but he stuck out his neck quite a bit for us.  Much more often than he has in the past.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Debbie Stabenow is next in line for Agriculture
Nelson will only get the chairmanship if Stabenow doesn't want it--and giving that she's facing re-election as well in 2012, I don't see why she would pass it up.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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No NE Halter?
There's no Halter in NE that we could primary Nelson with?

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Nah, Bob Kerrey and Chuck Hagel (a great R) don't live there anymore.
Chuck Hagel would probably be better than Nelson, but he'd be teabagged out of existence these days.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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This is Nebraska, for gawd's sake...
Count your blessings with Ben Nelson. And don't expect anyone like Al Franken winning there any time soon...

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


[ Parent ]
the presmumptive NE Halter = Scott Kleeb
though I suspect that would make the seat more likely R in '12.

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It's way too early to rate anything.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Really?
I was already working on a chart for Earth Emperor 2826. (I'm going with Lean Hrthgrhgr the Omnipotent.)

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I heard Dingell will be in trouble then.
But I think he'll pull it out.

23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)

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It is what we do here
If it were closer to '12, I'd likely be using stronger words to berate Kleeb's chances. But 2 years is an eternity.

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If Kleeb wants to do anything
he should carpetbag on over to Terry's district. At least that's my opinion

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He came in 3rd place
In a Dem primary for congress this year.  

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Halter
Good grief let's hope not hear that name or comparison again.  If you've only got 1 chance to keep the seat, go for it.  Nelson is all we have.  No matter what you think of Halter-Lincoln, Nelson is ALL WE HAVE.

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I hope there's someone.


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Didn't Hoeven also promise not to run?
I remember being very worried about Hoeven last year, then feeling safe that he wouldn't run, then Dorgan suddenly retiring and Hoeven jumping in almost simultaneously.

I don't care what Heinemann says, I don't trust he won't run and I'm going to be very nervous about him for a long while.

24, CA-14, previously DC-AL


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I believe Hoeven got the green light from Dorgan.
He wouldn't have run otherwise.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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You sure it wasn't the other way around?
I always imagined that Dorgan retired because he knew Hoeven was gonna run and didn't want to end his career with a crushing defeat. I doubt Hoeven wouldve been scared off by Dorgan.

24, CA-14, previously DC-AL

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I don't know all the details.
Maybe they have some friendship or something.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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He is still
A lot less popular than Dorgan. Dorgan was popular, Nelson is not. He'd lose to any non-crazy Republican. All 3 US Reps are considering, as is the AG.  

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Luckily 2 years is an eternity.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Isn't Lee Terry hated?
I don't know very much about the other two.

[ Parent ]
Lee Terry is a notorious philanderer.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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IDK
Maybe so. What has he done to be hated? I think out of the 3, he is probably the weakest. Fortenberyy is probably the strongest, since Smith is a Club for Growther.  

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As I said before, Lee Terry is a philanderer.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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The question is....
...after the upsets the far right pulled later in the year can a Hoeven be nominated in a dark red state?  Heinemann doesn't seem crazy enough not to get a stiff challenge.

As for Nelson.  This is Nebraska.  Sure it would be nice to have say Bob Kerrey back who actually was a very good Senator back in the day.  (I'm hoping enough time has passed that everyone can stop judging folks by how they felt about the Iraq War in 2003).  But Nelson is about as good as we're going to get.

If Nelson doesn't seem all that great you're ignoring just how bad the Republican alternatives can be.  This is Nebraska.  If Nelson were to retire the best you could probably do and still have a shot at winning is beg Tom Osborne to run as a Democrat and give Heinemann some payback.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


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Quinn Win!
Who would've thought Quinn would win by 20,000 and Alexi was gonna lose by 80,000.

Brady got hit hard in the suburbs by the abortion ads Quinn ran, and the education cuts ads. Women probably saved it for him.

23, dude, gay, IL-13


Quinn
Quinn only won three counties: Cook, and a couple down state ones with large african american populations.

23, dude, gay, IL-13

[ Parent ]
See the
county benchmarks. A Dem doesn't have to win any counties other than Cook... or even come close.

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It's because Brady is a dog-killer.


20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

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Hmm, could the CA map actually end up being better for us, though?
Or will it just say static?  
If the commission will work completely non-partisan and basically just go by geography/communities of interest, it may work to our advantage.  Maybe some native CA people can enlighten.

21,Democrat, NY-02, male

Depends on 2012...
And what type of cycle it becomes. If Obama is still having a rough time, it could hurt in some used-to-be-safe-but-now-competitive districts. If Obama recovers and looks like a shoo-in, though, it could help in winning formerly "unwinnable" GOP seats.

Whichever way it goes, expect more turnover.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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There a few places we could benefit
Much of SoCal is gerrymandered to be super safe for incumbents of both parties and if it was drawn my evenly, we'd stand to be more competitive in a few districts.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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It will probably improve slightly
Just not as much as a Democratic gerrymander would.  If 2012 is a neutral year I would expect a 1-3 seat gain, as opposed to a 4-6 seat gain from a gerrymander.

I think people are overestimating the number of truly swing seats this will create, though.


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Michigan, what the heck is going on with you?
Can a Michiganer (or someone else) explain what Michigan is up to, once thought to be a blue state, the GOP wins the Governorship in a landslide, take almost three quarter majority in state senate, make huge gains in state house and flip the chamber, will all downballot races, win two thirds of Michigan U.S. House seats, is Michigan still a Democratic state, or even a swing state?

22, Male, Conservative Republican, anti-teabag, NY-8

The map is gerrymandered for the GOP
and designed to have GOP control in a neutral year. As I understand it, the Dems only held the state house because of the blue wave in 2006 and 2008. The big GOP gains are therefore the result of the wave bringing the numbers more in line with the gerrymander's intent, just as the Dems are down in OH, PA, and FL to where the GOP gerrymandered them.

24, CA-14, previously DC-AL

[ Parent ]
How do the politics of the auto bailout
affect Michigan? Would the Democrats be able to run on saving the Big Three in 2012?

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Oh please
Obama and Stabenow are going to be elected easily in Michigan in 2012 in anything but an extremely republican year.  Every other state in the midwest except for Illinois will go R in the presidential before Michigan does.  Obama won here by 16% for gosh sakes.

I think what happened in 2010 was long awaited frustration with the economic situation in the state, and the extremely unpopular Granholm administration amplified the national wave exceptionally high.

Michigan is just like Pennsylvania, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. I'll believe a republican presidential candidate can win there when I see it.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


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Obama's huge MI win was a fluke
His lead in the polls was mid-to-high single digits until McCain very publicly pulled his campaign out of the state to save money. Obama's victory margin is inflated and shouldn't be treated as a baseline number.

Michigan does lean blue, but Democrats need to campaign seriously here to win, and Gore/Kerry only won narrowly. In a more neutral year than 2008 and with an opponent who actually competes, Obama can't afford to have a cavalier attitude toward winning here.


24, CA-14, previously DC-AL


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He won it by 16
He won PA by 10. He still would have won MI by double digits had McCain gone until the end. But sure, can't be taken for granted.

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NC-02: NRCC was behind Etheridge video
http://www.politico.com/news/s...
Ellmers was widely seen as a long shot. But her bid was boosted in June, when Etheridge was captured on video grabbing a young man who was asking him about whether he supported President Barack Obama's agenda.

In a Wednesday morning interview, NRCC Chairman Pete Sessions acknowledged to POLITICO that the committee was behind the video.


Ellmers is also pissed that the NRCC is NOT helping her in the recount. Seems kinda stupid on the NRCC's part.  

Hey Renee!
The Republican establishment is throwing you under the bus!  Quick!  Switch parties to give them a big black eye!

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Hagel
Hagel was NEVER better than Ben Nelson as far as giving us a vote or two when we needed his help.  Lamar Alexander, Dick Lugar, Voinovich and others were more likely to vote for something good as opposed to Chuck Hagel.  Rhetoric was all we ever got out of Hagel.  

Please donate to amcharities.org to help build more after school centers in the Miami area.  

23, Democrat, IA-2


Ok, I take it back.
Nostalgia struck.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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4 Years In The House
And you'd think Mr. Shuler would realize that when you're in the minority, you're challenging the leader for the position of Minority Leader, not Speaker. And yes, though I'd agree that more Blue Dogs would have been more helpful, Mr. Shuler is not going to win because there just aren't that many of them left.

Schuler doesn't have the connections to win, BUT
taking bets on democratic minority leader 2011. Does Pelosi keep kicking all the ass she can with her new progressive, minority party or is she done with governing and make a fortune on the lecture circuit?

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

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I think she's done
After the beating she's taken in the press, who continue to be in the House now that you're no longer speaker. She'll finish out this term and not run for re-election.

As far as Minority Leader? I don't see why it wouldn't be Hoyer.  

23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)


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It will be interesting to see if
any woman ever wants to be in a leadership role after this, after the very misogynist demonization of her. So far the one most grasping for power seems to be Michelle Bachmann, who seems to get a pass anyway, since she's a Republican.

[ Parent ]
Cathy McMorris Rodgers
She is, and will be, the #4 house Republican.

[ Parent ]
Rodgers
I never hear anything about her. She seems to be fine going with the flow.

I thought I read she had wanted to move up but wasn't going to try because of Bachmann.


[ Parent ]
Well, #5
since she's going to run for conference vice-chair again. That's #4 when you're in the minority, #5 when you're majority.

[ Parent ]
John Larson
They're both part of leadership, so I doubt he'd go for it if Hoyer wanted it, but I had heard John Larson was interested in the position. Any other career Housers out there that may make a go of it?

25, Male, CT-01 (home), Perth-Wellington riding (sometimes)

[ Parent ]
I think Rep. Blumenauer might be a long-shot...
He's been a loyal ally of Speaker Pelosi and President Obama, he has some seniority, and I'd like to see the GOP try to vilify a man who wears a bowtie and bicycle pin.

Rep. Hoyer is my congressman, and he's fine, but he's nothing new or inspirational. Rep. Blumenauer is quirky but no lightweight, and he's very bright, very passionate, very wonkish. He's also extremely safe in his district.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


[ Parent ]
You can't see the ads?
GRANOLA! LIBERAL!! WACKY!!!!!

[ Parent ]
What
about Weiner? He is in a moderately safe district and he would be great. Lots of passion and dedication. Larson is probably more realistic though, and there's nothing wrong with him.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
NYC
Weiner is probably going to run for mayor of New York City in 2013.

25, Male, CT-01 (home), Perth-Wellington riding (sometimes)

[ Parent ]
Weiner wants to be NYC Mayor in 2013
He's not interested in climbing the House ladder.

[ Parent ]
Weiner wants to be Mayor. But here's something for Mark if he's still around.
An article about the Orthodox vote and a changing of the guard among their leadership that might not bode well for Democrats in the future.  An article about the Orthodox vote and a changing of the guard among their leadership that might not bode well for some Democrats in the future.  

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com...

Two interesting points from the article.  First an important group that cost Hall a couple thousand badly needed votes.  There is a reason why politicians in New York kiss up to the black hats.

Village of Kiryas Joel
Even former President Bill Clinton called the village to solicit their support for his preferred Congressional candidate. It didn't help. The sophisticated village decided to endorse Republican Candidate for Congress Nan Hayworth, Democratic Candidate for Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and State Senator Bill Larkin. All of their candidates won big victories inside and outside of KJ.
Bottom Line: Trifecta of victories keeps KJ as top Chasidic power player.

And Dov Hiking the ultra conservadem who regularly endorses Republicans (such as Grimm in NY-13) whose unknown Republican opponent got 40% of the vote.  Apparently after years of urging Hasidic Jews to vote Republican they are finally listening and voting for Republicans running against him.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


[ Parent ]
If We Can....
Put them in Engel's district and tie them to the Bronx. I think they'd like Engel better, and even if they didn't they can block vote GOP and in that district it wouldn't matter at all.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03

[ Parent ]
Well, per ABC, she might not be
"Pelosi Seriously Considering Staying on as Democratic Leader"

Link: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen...


[ Parent ]
I think she'll resign
I mean, after being in the top position in the house, would you want to go back to being just a regular member?  

[ Parent ]
She can, and IMO should, be minority leader and announce her retirement.....
She can run for minority leader and simultaneously announce retirement.  That way she finishes in style and with honor as the Dem leader for the end of her career but she's no longer a punching bag, since her retirement erases her leadership as anything that can be used against Democrats in 2012.  It's actually pitch perfect politically:  her staying leader is a non-apology that keeps her fans happy, but her retirement removes her as an issue in the 2012 election.

I'm on the record as agreeing with DGM that Pelosi is a red herring, that the GOP as deliberate strategy was going to demonize whoever happened to be the Dem Speaker--they would've done the same to Hoyer or anyone else.

But the fact is the demonization in the case of Pelosi worked to some extent, and there's no political benefit to herself or to the party for her to stay beyond the 112th Congress.  She's got plenty to be proud of and history will vindicate her.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Hoyer
Maybe because he's a quasi blue dog uninspiring hack, who wouldn't give the Republicans the least bit of trouble.  But it sure would make AIPAC happy.

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I just wrote a diary on this
I assumed there will be a lot of Minority Leader talk over the next few days, and figured that you folks could use the diary to discuss this stuff rather than the open threads.

Personally, I think it will be Hoyer.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


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Let's not get upset over PR.
Let him run.  It makes him look independet from the leadership and plays well at home.  Of course he won't win.  Of course he knows he won't win.  Why would he even want to win?  He'll just end up being tarred by the national party like happened to Harry Reid.  Except his district is far from purple like Nevada.

If Pelosi were to run again Shuler would run for a round.  Get a couple votes and throw his support to Hoyer who'll beat Pelosi.

Hopefully Pelosi doesn't run and we get a leader more dynamic than Hoyer.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


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I agree...
Most of this is just positioning for the next election, exerting independence.

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I just don't get Florida
I have never been a fan of Jeb Bush (I'm sure he's heartbroken) but I could see where might have been seen as a sensible governor. As was Crist.

But Scott -- really? And he was opposed by a lot of the GOP rank and file as well.

I hope we're pleasantly surprised, and he's a good governor, but I think a lot of voters in Florida are going to be kicking themselves.  


It was the environment
The fact people were so down on Democrats allowed Scott to squeak by. Sink was so close and I think the enthusiasm gap caused her to fall short. Had the year been better, she probably would have won.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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I
have about as much respect for people that voted Scott as the people in my county that ousted a man described as one of the best DA's in Indiana history for a 25 (Youngest DA in Indiana history) year old with no legal experience solely for the fact he had an R by his name. That's what it is in both cases, R year carried them threw. Florida just elected a lying, cheating, thieving criminal. I did not even like Sink much but just because she has a D by her name does not make her worse than an actual thief. I have been going through all the wikipedia pages and looking at the new members of Congress, Governor and Senate pages and I refuse to look at Scott just because it would pain me too much. I am not much for boycotts but I will not go to Florida anymore until he's out. Yes you heard me right, I always go to Florida every couple of years, I make a big trip there and Louisiana but I'm not going to Florida until Scott is no longer Governor.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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680 state legislative seats lost
The worst for any party since 1974.  This gives Republicans the largest amount of state legislatures since before the Greaet Depression.

I wonder how many will enjoy what they voted for
Already New Hampshire and Minnesota may be moving towards repealing or banning gay marriage and civil unions. I would like to say voters would disapprove, but then, I've realized in recent years that a lot of voters do not care about anything which does not directly affect them.

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Overreaching
They'll overreach on something, though. I'd imagine the crazies in the state houses much be amazingly nutty, so hopefully they do some really stupid things and make these states better for us in 2012.

25, Male, CT-01 (home), Perth-Wellington riding (sometimes)

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Hopefully
I used to think that people voted against them from 2004-2008 because they were frothing at the mouth,  unstable, scary, etc. but now I wonder if it was just because they were tired of Bush and the GOP in Congress. Now that Obama is in I worry that these loons in the state legislatures will be accepted by voters.

[ Parent ]
Depends...
The Ohio GOP has come out and stated right out that they aren't going to do anything nutty... that they are fine with being just "moderate" as they used to be in the 90's.

Florida, however, is going to have some major social re-engineering, unfortunately.  God have mercy on that state's soul.


[ Parent ]
That should be interesting
I remember how the OHGOP harnessed a whole lotta hate in 2004. I wonder how those voices will react to this.

If this keeps Blackwell further out then I'm happy.


[ Parent ]
What has Quinn been like as governor?
What are his relationships with Madigan and the state senate leader? Will there be any conflicts over new maps or anything else?

"a painless transition to Steny Hoyer"
There would be nothing painless about it.  Hoyer would be a terrible leader, in the tradition of Tom Foley.  Whereas Pelosi is in the Rayburn, O'Neil, Jim Wright tradition of effective speakers.  If Pelosi decides to step down, and I hope she doesn't, someone needs to take on Hoyer.  Perhaps John Larson.  With the reduced number of blue dogs, Hoyer can be beaten.

I'd get behind Larson.
He's my congresscritter, dontcha forget that!

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

[ Parent ]
I'm just glad
Harold Ford is no longer in Congress...

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I have to agree about Hoyer
The caucus needs a strong leader, to be a strong opposition. After a big loss, it takes a strong leader to move forward.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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I agree
Some video to support the notion of Rep. Blumenauer as minority leader:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

He also chaired the Oregon presidential campaigns of both Sens. Kerry and Obama. Vice President Gore almost lost Oregon; with Blumenauer running the show, Oregon was safely Democratic, and now-Sen. Jeff Merkley was able to ride Obama's coattails to victory.

He's a very smart guy, he's fiery, he's likable, and he's progressive.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


[ Parent ]
Roll Call is saying that Pelosi is thinking about staying on...
...as minority leader.  That would be fantastic!

[ Parent ]
Nancy
Pelosi is one of the best Speakers we have ever had but I really think it's time for a fresh face. I like her but we need to regroup and a new leader would help just by having a fresh face. I think Larson should go for it, he would be good and just as progressive as Pelosi.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
As
much as I love Pelosi, her district border's mine and I think she's been the best house speaker ever, its time for her to step down. You need a fresh face when you're party takes an electoral drumming at the polls.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Exactly right.
She's been great but for the good of the party we need a fresh face.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
No
There's very little precedent to support that.  Sam Rayburn twice lost the speakership and came back to be speaker after the Democrats regained the House.  Pelosi's been an effective leader, and I don't see any "fresh faces" on the horizon who would be better.  At least, she should be permitted to serve the next two years as minority leader.  It wouldn't surprise me if she retired after that.

[ Parent ]
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
During the Bush administration Pelosi went along with Reid's strategy of capitulating on everything so that there weren't any "issues" on the table that Republicans could attack Democrats on.  And while Pelosi was able to deliver votes in the house unlike an LBJ, a Rayburn, or an O'Neil she never negotiated a deal that brought in Republican votes.  It may even be fair to say she was Reid without a filibuster threat over her head.

On the other hand Gephardt and Daschle were able to negotiate deals with Republicans and even achieve legislative victories against the odds.  Daschle in particular was feared by Republicans in a way Harry Reid certainly never was.

Pelosi was a leader of the Democratic Party who kept her caucus together.  No small task and something she deserves credit for.  But let's not roll her out for sainthood either.

I'd compare her more to post-Delay Hastert than Sam Rayburn.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


[ Parent ]
You're buying a myth that the Pelosi and Hoyer camps have a liberal vs. centrist split. They don't.
Yes Pelosi is marginally more liberal than Hoyer, but only marginally.

But far more importantly, both their camps of support are ideologically very diverse.  Pelosi's allies have always included some very conservative Democrats as well as moderates and liberals.  The same goes for Hoyer, his allies aren't largely blue dogs, they're a mixed bag including a lot of liberals.  Their camps are based on personal relationships and qualities that matter only in the intimate setting of the House Dem Caucus, invisible to the public.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Maybe the best way to get rid
of the Hoyer/Pelosi problem is to let him take Minority Leader.  If he does well, good for him.  If he implodes, no more problem.


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California and Florida
They don't cancel each other out.  One creates an independent commission, the other a command not to take into account "political considerations."  But what does that mean?  This will cost Democrats more seats than it will cost Republicans.

Uh, how?
California: one could concievably argue that it's currently a slight GOP gerrymander with all the Obama district Republicans.  As someone said earlier, this could probably mean 1-3 seats in a neutral year.  Maybe more in a good year.

Florida: If it truly will be nonpartisan, nowhere to go but up, possibly quite a few seats up.

21,Democrat, NY-02, male


[ Parent ]
Who cares if it cost Democrates seats!
I am so sick of gerrymandering and I don't care what party it effects. Only about 20% of the House seats are competitive each cycle. That is an outrage.  

[ Parent ]
A guide to win a election when you are down
Harry Reid verison

Nice article on how he did it
http://www.politico.com/news/s...  


Politico
Didn't they have an article the day before the election saying that this was the end for Reid.

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i am pretty sure they did
it was a mini series with a few articles about the leadership battle that will come after

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He's actually got balls
"...like Lt. Gov. Brian Krolicki, sidelined by an indictment for misappropriation of public funds that he believed Reid was behind..."

Who knew Reid had such an old-school machine operation that would even dig deep enough to find something like this?

I hate that it was all about him, other races be damned, but he did show Dems how to win in. Hopefully some young, enterprising budding politician in Texas or Arizona uses this blueprint to build something powerful ten years in the future.

25, Male, CT-01 (home), Perth-Wellington riding (sometimes)


[ Parent ]
well
he did what he have to do, carpet bomb his opponent and survive even though he might during the process destroy his fellow allies  

[ Parent ]
Absolutely amazing....
How could someone be so hardnosed and tough on the campaign trail, and so wussy as majority leader.  Either, Reid has two distinct personalities, or majority leader was just too tough for anyone bu superman to handle.

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wussy
That wussy majority leader just did something even LBJ couldn't do, which is to pass a near-universal health care bill.

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
I was once skeptical about Reid's skills
I am now completely sold. Seems like some would not have been satisfied unless the Senate Majority Leader ranted like Alan Grayson.

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Don't confuse electoral skills with leadership skills
He has not been an effective majority leader, imo.

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What
has he done to be ineffective? Just because he is not the best speaker and not all that inspirational does not make him a bad leader. I think he's one of the best we've had.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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What
He let the Senate become a killing field for good legislation.  He let the health insurance process drag on and on.  He refused to even threaten the nuclear option when it came down Republican filibustering.  At least, he could have made them actual be there in person to filibuster.  He has not been bold or creative at all.

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Nonsense, the things you suggest are not remotely "bold" or "creative"......
Those things are tantrums, not tactics.  "Bold and creative" means finding ways to get "yes" votes to get 60 for cloture.  And Reid did that.

None of the things you suggest would've accomplished anything, they just would've dragged out the process that much longer without resolution, which would've ended up requiring the very horse-trading Reid actually did.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Literally hudreds of bills stalled without moving forward....
The Senate was the obstacle to progress and change, not the house.  Now, it's possible that no one could get these bills moving.  I don't know, but from the outside, Reid looked incredibly ineffective.

After his win, though, I have to wonder if he really did the best that was conceivably possible.


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And
He's let scores of judicial nominations languish in the face of Republican obstructionism.

[ Parent ]
I
 disagree firmly but I should not have brought it up. This is not a productive thread. Sorry, my fault.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Given the tactics of the "loyal opposition" this term
I'd challenge LBJ to do better. I'd guess he'd might match Reid, but at the cost of scandals that weren't reported in LBJ's day.

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LBJ
At least he made them actually filibuster.  Have someone there to hold the floor continously.  Reid didn't do anything to make the Republicans the least bit uncomfortable in their obstructionism.

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The
rules to filibuster have changed since LBJ's time. Its not like Mr. Smith goes to Washington where you have to literally stand on the floor reading the bible or something to sustain a filibuster. It was changed so while a bill let's say dealing with Africa relief funds is being filibustered, the senate could continue on with its business. Its like putting someone on hold while you're chatting with someone else.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Uh . . . Medicare wasn't chopped liver


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Republicans did NOT TRY to stop it, they weren't trying to destroy LBJ......
The current GOP Senate Caucus had it in mind to obstruct as deliberate strategy, and there was no breaking them.

That wasn't what GOP Senators were even trying to do in the 60s.

Some liberals really have no understanding of Congressional history.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Epic.


20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Meanwhile, on the Republican side of leadership
http://www.politico.com/news/s...

I don't know if Bachmann can make it into the leadership, but if she did, I imagine she'd clash with the rest of the higher ups.  

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.


doubt it
The House Republicans (save Paul Ryan and a handful of others) don't understand policy, but they understand marketing, and giving Bachmann any kind of official position is horrible marketing. That'd be like the Dems putting Alan Grayson in the leadership.  

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
It will be fun to watch them try to keep her out.


CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

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She doesn't stand a chance
The people that would normally support her (red state, the RSC) are firmly behind Hensarling, as is Cantor and Boehnor. When you unite Cantor, Boehnor, the RSC, and Red State, you got it.  

[ Parent ]
Does
redstate actually matter?  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Ask
Michael Bennett, who was re-elected because of their support for Ken Buck.  

[ Parent ]
So
you think had there been no such thing as RedState Ken Buck would not have won the R primary? I find that hard to believe, it was tea party people but I do not think redstate in particular caused the win.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Yes
With such a narrow win, it is very likely. Red State had been supporting him for a year. They turned a lot of Tea Party groups and Jim DeMint towards Buck.  

[ Parent ]
Parry Murray's lead up to over 50,000 votes
http://vote.wa.gov/Elections/W...

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

Larson now up by 648 n/t


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1458 now
I don't know if there's any geographic breakdown of these late votes, but Larsen has picked up a few votes every time they've updated it. He'll probably win unless a disporportionate number of votes are from red areas, but that district seems to be uniformly purple.

41, Ind, CA-05

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Doesn't really seem to matter
Skagit, Snohomish, and Island are 51-49 Koster, while Whatcom is 52-48 Larson. The only county that went big for either was San Juan, which went 65-35 Larson, but there aren't many votes there. What seems to matter is the late votes seem to be more Democratic than what's been counted so far.

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There's
Bellingham and Everett, which are very Dem. Once you leave the city limits you're quickly in dueling banjos territory even though you're still in the same county lines. So, with Whatcom and Snohomish Counties, the two main counties in the district, it's hard to tell which portions you're getting, since they're half-blue, half-red, balancing out to purple. Judging by the rate at which Larsen (and the Dems in tight state legislative races) are picking up steam, the more urban parts are disproportionately later to get counted (same with King, further south).

[ Parent ]
ah
My mistake. Learn something new every day.

41, Ind, CA-05

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CT-Gov
Bridgeport and New Haven put Malloy may over the top, but their machines turned out a pretty crappy amount of voters, which may not be surprising considering Bport's Dem machine had one mayor sent to prison and another snorting coke on his desk (New Haven's is actually pretty progressive). Both turned out about 25,000 voters, when they have populations topping 120,000 (NH) and 135,000 (Bport).

Hartford, which really doesn't have much of a machine and has a similar population, turned out an even worse 18,000 voters. The statewide urban GOTV operation pretty much failed with two competitive statewide races on the ballot and one House seat on the line. Larson and DeLauro should be blamed for a weak organization, ditto the Working Families Party. The CT Dem party is just lucky the inner suburbs have moved so far in the Democratic direction. (New Haven's northern suburb, Hamden, has about 54,000 people and about 19,000 votes were cast there, going about 2/1 for the Dems) These wasted non-votes should be a major priority, instead of the half-assed attempts we see every presidential year.

And the AP has not even added Himes' Bridgeport votes to his total, showing him still trailing Debicella. What's going on over there?

25, Male, CT-01 (home), Perth-Wellington riding (sometimes)


Abundance of caution...
The AP has egg on its face already in Connecticut. I don't think they want to make the wrong call again, so they're waiting for the official tally from Secy. Bysiewicz's office.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

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For Hartford and Bridgeport,
turnout out was actually pretty strong this year, relative to past midterms.

For instance, in 2006, Hartford turned out about 15k votes for Governor, while Bridgeport had about 20k.
http://www.statementofvote-sot...

So, based on your 2010 figures, that would (very roughly) be an increase of 3k (20%) in Hartford and 5k (25%) in Bridgeport. Pretty big bumps!

A lot of the increase in Bridgeport was probably due to the President's visit to the city on Saturday. He might have won the election for Malloy, singlehandedly.


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AZ-07, AZ-08: Almost 20,000 new votes between the two districts; AP calls for Grijalva
Updated here.

Mostly Pima, but a few other, more conservative places like Yuma and Cochise Counties. Grijalva is now up 5982 votes and the AP has called the race for him. Giffords is up 3055 and I don't think Kelly has much chance of coming back. Looking at State Legislature races, the new votes were spread out throughout the County, not just coming from one liberal center. Kelly would have to do extremely well provisionals and what's left of the mail-ins to pull it out.

22, Democrat, AZ-01
Peace. Love. Gabby.


It's a real testament to her that she held on
Many Democrats this year lost to people who were too extreme.

[ Parent ]
Rep. Giffords is fantastic
She's probably the best prospect Democrats have for statewide office in Arizona, and I can see her making a credible run for president within the next 14 years.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Uh Oh
They just found a bag of ballots in Bridgeport. This one may go on for a while.  

25, Male, CT-01 (home), Perth-Wellington riding (sometimes)

It's a non-story,
probably leaked to sow confusion and call all Bridgeport ballots into question.

There were about 300 ballots in this group. And election officials said they had previously been disclosed, so they may not have been "found" at all.

http://www.stamfordadvocate.co...


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The article goes on
to say:

"The existence of these ballots, the number of the ballots, and their location and status were fully disclosed to representatives of the Foley and Malloy campaigns during the evening of the election, and the Secretary of the State's office was also similarly notified," said Bridgeport Deputy City Attorney Arthur Laske. "Any allegation that there were missing, or newly discovered ballots by the attorney for the Foley campaign is entirely incorrect."

So this may be just as I suspected: Republican lawyers descending on Bridgeport to try to find any anecdote that may cast doubt on the rest of the remaining ballots.


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That's why
I should read full articles instead of the headline and lead paragraph. I evidently learned nothing in journalism class.

25, Male, CT-01 (home), Perth-Wellington riding (sometimes)

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LOL...
I think this is a trumped up story by GOP operatives. It smacks of media manipulation and Psy-Ops.

Plus, if the votes hadn't yet been counted, they're not part of the numbers that Bridgeport officials have already reported to the AP, which show Malloy up by a not insignificant margin.


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Senate Dems having trouble finding new DSCC chair
So far, all of their top choices (Warner, Merkely, Shaheen, Franken, Begich, T and M Udall,) have said they are not interested. Seems like it will have to go back to Schumer. Who else could take it? Murray and Wyden, since they could serve for 2 terms?

Franken
was a top choice? Are you effing serious? Nothing against the guy, I love him, but he would not be on my list at all. Why not Michael Bennet, he ran one hell of a campaign, defied the odds and won in a very Republican year and knows policy well. He would be great.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Bennet would be a good choice.
   None of those mentioned seem like they would make great DSCC chairmen anyway.  I don't even know why they would ask Mark Begich.  Give the poor guy a break.  

24, Male, GA-05

[ Parent ]
Well, he did win in a hostile state...
I wonder why there are no takers this time around?  No one is up to the challenge?  C'mon!

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As I said, let Schumer have it!
He'll help us win in VA, MA, NV, and even throw some aid to Nelson now that Heinemann probably won't run.

Nobody can raise money like Scumer!

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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No way!
   Begich already votes damned well for an Alaska Senator.  He doesn't need to be in a high visibility partisan position.

24, Male, GA-05

[ Parent ]
What do you mean? Schumer is an awesome choice for DSCC!


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
True.
  But I'd rather he become majority leader.  I think people owe Menendez an apology.  We overperformed in the Senate races.

24, Male, GA-05

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Well, I think he's somewhat vindicated for CO and maybe WA.
However, I read that Schumer and Durbin pledged loyalty to Reid as majority leader and that Schumer is being asked to take back the DSCC.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Boxer!
Let's get a fighter back in that position! And with California trending ever more Democratic, it's very unlikely she'll be vulnerable again.

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[ Parent ]
There are two qualifications for DSCC
Ability to recruit.  Ability to raise money.  That's it.  Doesn't matter how popular they are or how liberal or conservative they are.

Franken may have the fundraising ability with his deep Hollywood connections.  I just don't know if he's a smooth enough operator to get things done in the recruiting department.

If she wasn't up next year and potentially have a race of her own Stabenow might've been a good choice.

Best choice would be Kirsten Gillibrand.  She knows how to run in tough campaigns.  Like Schumer she knows where the big New York money is.  And she's a pragmatist who won't let ideology get in the way of results.  Was recently in the house so she'll have a let up and encouraging some of her former colleagues to step up to the next level.

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Gillibrand is also up for re-election in 2012
This was just a special election this year.

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[ Parent ]
But I don't expect her to be in danger.
This was the year for the Republicans to go after her.  Of course two years out who knows.

Stabenow on the other hand I am less sure of.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


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Schumer would be great!
We would love him back.  He's our fundraising juggernaut and raised a TON for the DSCC.  He would be MORE than welcome back at the helm!

Menendez was ok, but he never really shone as head of the DSCC.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Menenddez was an idiot...
Got caught unawares with Coakley, refused the back the most winnable candidate in North Carolina, all the time pumping money into the black hole of Missouri, picked the wrong horse in Ohio, and numerous other mistakes.  

[ Parent ]
Be that as it may.
We still overperformed in the Senate.

But I absolutely agree he should move aside for Schumer.

Also, didn't Coakley keep the DSCC in the dark about her campaign until the last minute?  Sure they should have barged in and surveyed the scene, but she played a big role in her loss.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
He has to step aside
He is up for re-election.  

[ Parent ]
Menendez did fine -
actually, more than fine. The Democrats lost fewer seats in the Senate than most analysts expected. In fact, the Senate was one of the few bright spots for us.

As for MO, OH, and NC, I doubt any Democrat could have won in those states in this incredibly difficult cycle.


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He did some poor recruiting though
Trying to contest Indiana with Ellsworth was something you could see failing from five miles away. Ellsworth couldnt even carry his own district.  Trying to beat Vitter in a state where Obama got just 39% of the vote was also stupid. Melancon also lost his own district and didnt even come close there.  

[ Parent ]
Ellsworth
and Melancon both probably would have lost their CD races anyway and looked to be competitive at first. They where the best candidates we could have gotten anyway. FYI had Ellsworth won his CD and did just slightly better in the 9th then he would have been a couple of points away from a win statewide. He took his own CD for granted.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Maybe Ellsworth can come back in 2012
And run again. He would have a decent shot I think.

[ Parent ]
He'd
have to climb a hill that's slanted 89.9 degrees though. Remember, even though the stars aligned for Obama, he only won Indiana by 1 point and that wasn't called until really early in the morning.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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Not sure I follow...
I doubt there was ANY other Democratic candidate who could have beaten the Republican candidate in IN this year. Even Bayh probably would have lost.

As for LA, what was the harm in supporting Melancon? In retrospect, he would have probably lost reelection in his own district, so there was no ultimate harm in fielding him for senate.


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Bayh
 would have won, I have no doubt of it. Would have been closer but he would have, I feel confident about it. It's mainly about the money. I guarantee you that had Ellsworth had 10 mil in the bank account he probably could have won (closer anyway). He did not have enough to run statewide. Neither did Coats but he won on the R wave. This race was actually closer than Ohio, New Hampshire, Missouri and Florida.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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These are bizarre and absurd criticisms
Who exactly saw it coming that Ellsworth was a bad candidate?  Who exactly do you think was better?  It was an unwinnable seat in this environment without an uber-popular superstar candidate, and the only superstar was the retiree himself, Evan Bayh.  We didn't have an Indiana version of Dick Blumenthal.

And Louisiana got only modest DSCC assistance.  I don't think they made an ad buy there.  And Melancon was our strongest possibility.  Louisiana is far more right-wing than Indiana, our bench is weak there, and again it was a terrible year.

Our recruiting was excellent.  Robin Carnahan and Jack Conway were A-list.  So was Paul Hodes.  These people would've won in either of the previous 2 cycles.  It was just an awful year and nothing could have made it better.  We overperformed losing only 6.

I'm sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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^^^Seconded
This cycle saw some of the best recruits for Senate races bar none that I've seen ever.

Granted I'm 30 but still.

Elaine Marshall, Paul Hodes, Kendrick Meek, Robin Carnahan, even Mike Thurmond in GA were a great group.


[ Parent ]
I don't completely agree, but I'll give my ratings
on a scale from F to S.

Marshall: B
Hodes: A
Meek: B
Carnahan: S
Thurmond: C

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


[ Parent ]
Agreed about Ellsworth.
He was definitely a strong recruit.

The one thing you can dispute is why didn't he try fighting Coats.  I can't really say whether this was a good idea, but a silver lining is that I don't remember hearing much abuot Coats doing much negative advertising.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


[ Parent ]
recruiting
Giannoulias was terrible. A generic D legislator from anywhere but the city of Chicago would have had a better shot. Other than that, the D candidates were fine.  

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
Giannoulias just chose to run
He wasn't a DSCC recruit - they went all in, along with the WH, trying to recruit Lisa Madigan, bringing her to DC, having her meet privately with Obama, all to no avail.

Failing that, David Hoffman would have likely won. But he was screwed by the early primary.

Still, as bad as Giannoulias was this cycle, he actually may have a future, provided this whole bank-business gets cleared up. He's very young, and he could probably run for the House or something down the road.  


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What a party pooper
I just wanted to spend this grieving period dissing all of the great candidates that we recruited -- as a bunch of losers, boozers, and whatever else I couldn't think of.

[/end snark]

All this dissing of people who spent their hearts, souls, and sacred honor, running as Democrats, defending our values -- it makes me sick.

Even those candidates who were less than "A-list" deserve more in this time, just after being smashed by a tsunami election.


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I'm for Sen. Wyden
He knows how to orchestrate a good campaign, and he pays attention to rural areas. I can see him having a lot of success nationwide, even with Democrats playing defense in 2012.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
ND-Gov: Hoeven to resign December 7, Lt. Gov Darylmaple names his replacement
http://www.kxnet.com/getArticl...
Hoeven will resign on Dec. 7th, and Lt. Gov Jack Darylmaple will take over. He has already named former US Attorney Drew Rigley as his replacement.  

Senator Michael Bennet.
   He can thank the female sex for his victory.  According to CNN exit polls he won women 56-39!  Ken Buck's disregard for women's issues clearly cost him the election.  Don't mess with the ladies, they vote. Buck won men 54-40.

 I've never seen such a large gender gap.

24, Male, GA-05


Jane Norton probably voted for Bennet


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[ Parent ]
We did it!
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28, New Democrat, Female, TX-03 (hometown CA-26)


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Perspective from Earl Blumenauer
http://www.blueoregon.com/2010...
(bolding mine, don't know the source)

Chickens will come home to roost quickly if the GOP really doesn't try to work with Democrats and President Obama. This is the first wave election in history where the winners (the GOP) have lower approval than the losers (Dems). One poll actually shows 59% of voters expect to be disappointed in the Republicans by 2012.

Just maybe, this will create an opportunity to cut unnecessary defense spending, reform agriculture and farm policy to help farmers and ranchers while saving money and protecting the environment, while working together to rebuild and renew America.

Gosh, I'm glad he's my rep. AFAIK, 59% was from a Scotty R poll, ref http://www.rasmussenreports.co...


If Scotty said 59%,
it's probably 79%. That would actually be less off-the-mark than his HI-Sen call.

[ Parent ]
Dude is a badass
And he's absolutely on the money here. There are reforms people - politicians included - can agree on if they really care about reducing the deficit and strengthening the economy. And Republicans, now that they control the House, have an obligation to join Democrats at the table.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Lost
What seats (Barring a Bill Sali type) are likely lost for a very long time from Tuesday?

I would assume Bobby Bright's and Gene Taylor's would be two?

29/D/Male/NY-01


Oh I think that list is LOOOONG. Remember unlike 1994, we lost this time...
...a LOT more seats in conservative districts.

One commenter pointed out the House party caucuses now line up very closely to PVIs, with only 17 GOP-held seats in PVI Dem districts, and only 15 Dem-held seats in PVI GOP districts.  I imagine the GOP pickups, which I expect to wind up 66 gross (63 net), include dozens of seats with particularly strong GOP PVIs.

All that said, the Republicans still elected a lot of one-termers on Tuesday who we'll knock out easily.  I expect we'll easily have double-digit gains in 2012, probably around a dozen easy and any more than that will require Obama to have job approvals in the 50s and to get reelected to have some coattails.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
I count 12
AL-02
GA-08
MO-04
OH-18
PA-10
TN-04
TN-08
TX-17
VA-09
MS-01
MS-04
ID-01

Everything else I think is fair game to win back. Republicans didnt write off any seats in 2010 so why should we?


[ Parent ]
Ill add LA-03
Which will be gone in redistricting anyway.

[ Parent ]
I'd add VA-05 unless Perriello runs again......
It's a conservative district, we won't get it back unless Perriello himself goes for a rematch and rides another wave of Obama surge turnout...and even then his odds are less than 50-50.

VA-02 is legitimately purple and winnable, but 2010 being in Virginia entirely a base election meant that only a Democrat who toed the party line had any chance of a decent turnout model.  Nye took the opposite tack and crashed and burned.  As I predicted, he clearly underperformed Perriello even though VA-02 is a much better district for Democrats than VA-05.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
True
In 1996, House Dems actually picked up 22 seats from the Republicans, but that got offset by another 13 losses, mostly in conservative Southern districts, especially those where there had been retirements.

One advantage we have going into 2012 is that there are very few targets left for Republicans, although redistricting will scramble the map some.

Still, I really wish we'd kept our losses down to 50, because we'll need about 30 seats to reclaim a workable majority - doable, but tough. And 2014 will likely go against us too, given midterm and 6th-year dynamics, so I fear that if we don't regain it in 2012, we may not regain it for awhile.  


[ Parent ]
Smart post, and yes I think we'll do better than 1996 because...
...we're not going lose another batch of seats to offset our gains like we did in '96.  There's little left to lose in the way of conservative districts, and voters are done punishing us.

Really, what happened in '96 in those 13 losses was a continuation of 1994, a kind of "polishing work" by the voters if you will where they took a second look and decided "we want this second batch of Dems out and failed to do it the first time, but we also don't like some of these new Republicans and a few not-so-new ones so they go, too."

But this time, in 2010, the voters kicked out all the Dems they don't like all at once, so they're done.  And so we'll enjoy almost entirely just pickups in 2012.  Again I see roughly a dozen pickups coming easy, and anything on top of that will be harder and depend on the economy, Obama's job approval, the GOP's choice of a nominee, and any unanticipated other crisis that presents itself, if any.  I'm really hopeful the teabaggers keep exerting their muscle and nominate someone unelectable who will drag down their whole party, in which case yet another wave election in our favor will be possible.

Also, having an ideologically more cohesive caucus to build upon helps us over time.  We eventually won't need a big majority to get hard stuff done like we've always needed in the past.

Finally, you're very wrong and very premature to assume anything about 2014.  The Clinton years taught us that a 6th-year midterm is very different from the norm if you've already been punished in one of the two previous Congressional cycles.  There was backlash against impeachment, yes, but I think that was actually secondary to the fact the voters had no further reason to punish Democrats, as we already were a minority party and governance itself was going OK, the Lewinsky affair and impeachment notwithstanding, in voters' minds.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Events dear boy!
Bush and Clinton both had a mid-term of each. If Obama is re-elected maybe the pattern continues.

[ Parent ]
Probabaly Jim Marshall's
Travis Childers', Walt Minnick's, The Tennesssee seats(except TN-08), Frank Kravitol's(unless redistricting turns that into a more Democratic seat), Chris Carney's, Rick Boucher's, Chet Edwards', Earl Pomeroy's, Ike Skelton's and Stephanie Herseth Sandlin's.  I think everything else could be won back. We could aim to gain 15 seats per cycle, which would put us back in the majority by 2014.  

[ Parent ]
Stephanie can come back and win again.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
She'll be back
She's only 40. Noem won't be in the House long. She'll either leave if Thune is elected president to take his seat, or run for Johnson's seat in 2014. Sandlin could run for the House again .

[ Parent ]
Sandlin
could run for governor in 2014 also or stage a Maria Cantwell like comeback and run if Johnson retires.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
I'm guessing Annapolis figures out a new and creative gerrymander...
It might involve combining MD-01 and MD-06, adding the bottom half of Frederick County (including the city of Frederick itself) into the blue districts below it and maybe giving some of Baltimore County to MD-07, which is Democratic enough to deal with it.

I'd mock something up, but I'm not that talented.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


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Getting Creative
There are lots of ways to do 7-1. Most of them for the lone GOP vote sink combine western Maryland with the most Republican-voting portions of exurban Baltimore. They deal with the Eastern Shore by tying it to very Democratic DC burbs.

But I suppose you could do the opposite and make the Shore-based district your GOP vote sink by making it look like it does now except replacing the Anne Arundel portion (which is Republican, but the southern parts near the Bay Bridge by Annapolis aren't all that bad) with more of the Baltimore exurbs currently in MD-06. You'd then split Western Maryland in two pieces, each one tied to a large chunk of Montgomery County.

The diaries on the subject usually opted for the latter mostly because, well, until just now, we actually had a Democrat in the Shore-based seat despite how horrible it was for Democrats.  

Combining both approaches can get you, on 2008 numbers at least, a perfect 8-0. It's not pretty to look at, and there's a non-neglibile dummymander risk, especially with anything based around Baltimore rather than around MoCo/PG, so it's not something I'd suggest putting into practice.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03


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ND, SD
The Dakotas aren't like other Republican districts. Voters there lean right and are temperamentally conservative, but they're pretty pragmatic and not very partisan. They're perfectly willing to vote for Democrats as long as they aren't too liberal.

41, Ind, CA-05

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Why not the seats
for Carney, Boucher, and those in Tennessee and Missouri? The first two are in states that are blue or turning blue, and while Tennessee and Missouri look rough, they elected Democrats in the past.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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NE-Sen: AG Jon Bruning Announcing Run for Senate tomorrow
Is this some kind of record? Announcing 3 days after election day? Maybe he is hoping to force Nelson into retirement.
Thanks to sspiker for the tip.
http://www.khastv.com/news/loc...
From Bruning's twitter, it sure sounds like he is running:
Announcement tomorrow morning 10am re Sen Nelson's Senate seat. Isn't it time we rein in Federal Spending and take America back?

http://twitter.com/JonBruning/...

Anyone know
What happened to the $1 million he raised in his 2008 exploratory committee? Did he save it, or did he return it?  

[ Parent ]
I
read somewhere he has like $600,000 from that fund. He's probably jumping in early hopefully to scare off anyone else. Especially since Ben Nelson is the Blanche Lincoln/Rick Santorum of 2012, probably every Republican in the state's house delegation wants an easy promotion to the senate.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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Yeah he held on to it
http://www.politico.com/news/s...
I wonder if he is trying to scare Nelson into retirement, so he can just walk to the Senate? You know, make him think about it before he starts revving up his campaign. Its a lot easier to retire when you haven't done much work than after you have been raising money and staffing up.  

[ Parent ]
Not unheard of to start early
Barack Obama had an exploratory campaign for the IL Senate seat up by the summer of 2002.

[ Parent ]
Who would The Tea Party want?


28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
While
we're talking about this, who's going to be the tea party candidate in this race? Is Bruning conservative enough to avoid being labeled a RINO by Erick Erikson and the Redstate crowd?

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Anyone
Can be labeled a RINO by them if they interact too much with the NRSC, even if they are the most conservative candidate in the race. I see no reason why they would not go for him though. He is suing over HCR and seems pretty popular among grassroots Reps in NE. Smith would probably be the toughest opponent in the primary, as a Growther.  

[ Parent ]
Ah, so he's blowing taxpayers' dollars on a politically-motivated lawsuit.
And if he announces so early, that will give the DSCC plenty of time to dig up all the dirt they need on him.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Suing
the Federal Government over HCR plays well in Nebraska that's the problem. And I'm sure the DSCC will dig up dirt, the problem is, if their internal polling shows Ben Nelson down double digits they won't lift a finger to save him. Notice the DSCC fired off a mountain of press releases against John Boozman, but didn't buy a single minute of ad time to try to save Blanche Lincoln? Plus they'll have to pour money into defending seats in Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Florida, Virginia and Pennsylvania. We're going to be playing on a slanted playing field for the next 4 years.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
And
I apologize in advance if I'm so down on Ben Nelson's chance right now. I'm still a little shell shocked from Tuesday and I'm having a hard time seeing any positive things right now.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
It's ok
I don't like Nelson, but a tiny piece of me hopes he can win.  But who knows.  If the DSCC wins every other Dem incumbent race, that's a big victory in itself.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
That's why I want Schumer back in.
He can raise a ton of money to help those states you mentioned.  A small bit of me hopes NE can be won, but we do not know what the field is over there and 2 years is an eternity.  But know this: if the AG runs, he might get teabagged.  He's just another "good ol' boy", as they say.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
"Isn't it time we rein in Federal Spending and take America back?"
Someone's late to the party.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

[ Parent ]
NC Gop Gerrymander
so I just went onto DRA and drew up a 9-4 GOP map (10-3 if Shuler retires) real quick. I don't know NC too well and I'm not very good at map drawing but I figure it's a good learning experience. Debating whether to post it or not. of course the specific territory changes will affect who is safe and who is not, but just want to get some opinions on the toplines for each district. I drew it with the idea that Obama's numbers were basically a Democratic high-water mark. Also, not sure if I drew a few incumbents out of their districts, but I doubt it's a big deal.

Butterfield: O 63, M 36 (49% black, 42% white)
Ellmers: O 45, M 54
Jones: O 41, M 58
Price: O 75, M 25
Foxx: O 43, M 56
Coble: O 44, M 55
McIntyre: O 41, M 58
Kissell: O 44, M 55
Myrick: O 43, M 56
McHenry: O 40, M 59
Shuler: O 47, M 52
Watt: O 69, M 30 (43% black, 39% white)
Miller: O 55, M 45

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


Thanks, looks right, but your map is 8-5 map, not 9-4......
You've got 4 districts there that Obama won in addition to Shuler's, and frankly a district like Miller's that went for Obama by 10 points is going to stay Dem.  Brad Miller is liberal and doesn't hide it, and even this Tuesday wasn't endangered and won 55-45 (same as Obama '08) in what will be his low-water mark.

Or, are you saying your map erased Miller's district and made it more conservative?  I guess I'm not sure.

In any case, I suspect it's tough to reduce Dems to 3 in today's NC.  The combination of black voters, other minorities who are growing in population and vote share, and white liberals add up to too many people to knock down Dems any lower than 4.  The state has changed a lot over the past 20 years, that's why Obama was able to win it, and it's really a Mid-Atlantic/South hybrid nowadays.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
no, I made a dumb mistake
I completely forgot about David Price when mentally counting. so you're right, it's actually 8-5 with Shuler/9-4 without. Miller's district went to Obama 59-40 so my map weakens him and possibly endangers him in another Republican wave year, but in my map his district is used to soak up Fayetteville and a piece of Raleigh, so he should be ok.

Thanks for the feedback. Once I stop being lazy I will get around to making a diary.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
I did this 9-4 map last week
NC 9-4

[ Parent ]
Different targets?
Eyeing your map it looks like you targeted Shuler whereas I didn't. I was already a bit wary of spreading GOP votes too thin, out of an abundance of caution (that the actual GOP legislature may or may not exhibit).

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Here's how the map breaks down:
               Obama   McCain   White   Black    Native   Asian   Hispanic   Other
1 (blue): 42           57           75        12         4            2          6                 1

2 (Green):65         34            44        48         1           1           6                 1

3 (Purple):43        56           87        5            0           1           5                 1

4 (Red):   42          57           81       12          0           2           5                  1

5 (Yellow):74        25           51       30          0           5           12               1

6 (Teal):  67          32           48        37         0           2           11                1

7 (Gray): 72           27          40         40         1          4            14               1

8 (. . .): 36             63          81          10       0           2            7                 1

9 (lt blue):44        55           65          22       5          2            6                 2

10 (pink): 43         56          71         18        1           1           7                 1

11 (Lime): 42        57         84           8          1           1           4                 1

12 (Sky):   39         60          73         19       0            1           6                 1

12 (Tan):   43         56         72         15       0            2            9                 1

Forgive my formatting.  


[ Parent ]
Nice.
your 7th district is very offensive. is it ok to have equal black and white though?

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Freudian slip...
meant effective, not offensive.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Black+Hispanic makes it
minority-majority. It's a kind of replacement for the current 12th.  

[ Parent ]
That is a beautiful piece of art
Is the grey district completely inside the blue one? I don't think I've ever seen anything like that one.

24, CA-14, previously DC-AL

[ Parent ]
Yup, completely inside
This map has 3 minority-majoirty districts, and one 51% white district. In my view, it is likely to elect 4 black Democrats and 9 white Republicans.


[ Parent ]
Jerry McNerney's lead is now 441


I think the Giants saved McNerney
Most of the district is Oakland A's territory, but I know a lot of people there were rooting for the Giants through the Series. Given that a lot of the big GOP gains are connected to voter anger taken out on incumbents, a World Series victory for the Bay Area may have boosted enough people's spirits that they weren't feeling too angry in the voting booth and thus less inclined to lash out at an incumbent.

You might think that's nuts, but if voters' preferences can be affected by everything from the weather to whether the polling location is a church or school, then I don't think it's crazy to think that a big sports win could help push an incumbent over the top.

24, CA-14, previously DC-AL


[ Parent ]
Kanaka Harris leads by 11,900 last I checked.
Please please please please please...

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28, New Democrat, Female, TX-03 (hometown CA-26)


[ Parent ]
OOPS, Kamala!
iPhone is screwy today.

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[ Parent ]
SoS says it's a 17,000 vote gap
3,349,613 to 3,332,598. Where are you getting your numbers?

Or is "Kanaka Harris" in some other election? :)

24, CA-14, previously DC-AL


[ Parent ]
I last checked early this morning.
And my iPhone "corrected" Kamala to Kanaka.

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[ Parent ]
Chicago-Mayor: Moseley-Braun blames Emanuel for 2010 losses
This year has been big for 90's nostalgia
Dan Coats, John Kitzhaber, a Cuomo leading New York (I'd include Jerry Brown but that's more 70's nostalgia) and now Moseley-Braun, along with an expected Newt Gingrich presidential bid. I wonder if any other political zombies will rise from the grave (I'd love to see Pete Wilson run for something and get his butt kicked, for old times' sake).

24, CA-14, previously DC-AL

[ Parent ]
Not
like it matters much but Brady will officially concede. Wow, this race was a real shocker.
http://www.wbay.com/Global/sto...

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

The one thing
keeping me from barfing when I go back to Illinois.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Democrats stuck on stupid
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Nancy Pelosi says she will run for House minority leader.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan


I think I just threw up in my mouth


[ Parent ]
I welcome her to remain
She is the best person to keep House Democrats coordinated, pugnacious, and visible.


[ Parent ]
I think it's a great idea...
Hoyer might capitulate on some important things. Nancy won't.

Plus, as DCCyclone said yesterday, she could retire at the end of the term, mitigating the potency of anti-Pelosi attacks in '12.


[ Parent ]
The House Dems are shooting themselves in the foot here
This gives the GOP another two years to run constant ads tying Obama to Pelosi and Reid. I can actually deal with Reid, given the alternative (Charles Schumer), would probably be even more polarizing, but Pelosi's poison in swing states. I think Steny Hoyer's would've been terrific, if only because he's not Nancy Pelosi. As far as Heath Shuler's, he's too conservative to represent the Democratic caucus, but if Obama intends to move further center, I guess he'd be an ideal pick. If I were a House member, I'd surely vote for Shuler.

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