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AK-Sen: Miller Leads, But...

by: Crisitunity

Wed Oct 13, 2010 at 6:57 PM EDT


Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos (10/9-10, likely voters, no trendlines):

Scott McAdams (D): 26
Joe Miller (R): 35
Someone else: 35
Undecided: 5
(MoE: ±2.4%)

In looking at PPP's poll released yesterday (on behalf of our Orange Overlords), let's walk step-by-step through what they're doing in this basically impossible-to-poll race. Their approach is fairly similar to what Ivan Moore did a few weeks ago: first run a heat without Lisa Murkowski. (The difference here is that PPP specifically ask "someone else," while Moore only seemed to let people volunteer that on the first round.) With this approach, it's a tie between Miller and "someone else."

PPP then asked the "someone else" voters who they were planning to vote for: indie Tim Carter, indie Ted Gianoutsos, Libertarian Frederick Haase, write in Lisa Murkowski, or write in someone else? Murkowski won that round with 95%, with 2 going to Haase, 1 to Gianoutsos, 0 to Carter, and 2 to write in someone else. That was then imputed to find these results:

Scott McAdams (D): 26
Joe Miller (R): 35
Lisa Murkowski (WI): 33
Undecided: 4
(MoE: ±2.4%)

Miller leads narrowly, despite his atrocious 35/58 favorables among the general electorate - the worst PPP has found for a Republican senate candidate this year, including Christine O'Donnell. (Contrast that with 48/46 for Murkowski and 44/26 for McAdams, probably thanks to his cheerful ads.)

This contrasts a bit with Moore's approach, which was to remind voters of Murkowski's presence, ask all voters "stay the same" or "write in Murkowski," and impute based on that, which seemed to yield a more pro-Murkowski result (44-36 in her favor). I don't know which approach is the most optimal (maybe PPP's, since it doesn't prompt everyone that Murkowski's in the race, only nudges them in that direction with "someone else" and the follow up question, which may more accurately reflect voting-booth dynamics where there's no reminder about Murkowski), but at any rate, they're both better than other polls which just list Murkowski with everyone else.

Ethan Berkowitz (D): 42
Sean Parnell (R-inc): 51
Undecided: 7

Harry Crawford (D): 36
Don Young (R-inc): 58
Undecided: 6
(MoE: ±2.4%)

PPP also looks at the much-less-complicated Governor and House races, and, as one would expect, finds the incumbent Republicans in command here, although Ethan Berkowitz still looks surprisingly lively in the gubernatorial race.

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Go with PPP.
   I know which approach is more accurate.  Will Murkowski's name be on the ballot?  No.  Which approach more accurately represents the experience the voter will have at the polls.  PPP's.
  If there is one thing I learned from college psychology classes, it is that recalling something is a much more difficult type of memory to form than is recognizing something.  If anything, even PPP's approach inflates Murkowski's numbers because they give the voter Murkowski's name from a list in the end.  
   My ideal poll is: "Who do you plan to vote for, Joe Miller, Scott McAdams or someone else?  If someone else then who? "  Do not let the voter answer before both questions are asked.  That approach most accurately reflects the experience in the ballot box, and explains better than spelling errors or general voter idiocy the reason why write-ins always underperform the polls.

     

24, Male, GA-05


PPP
PPP definitely used the best possible way to poll a write-in candidacy through automated polling, though I agree that with a live interviewer, you don't have to give an option at the second part, just an open question. Anyhow, Murkowski will still likely get less than 35% because of the usual write-in dropoff, so Miller is still the favorite though.

22, Male, Conservative Republican, anti-teabag, NY-8

[ Parent ]
PPP vs. Rasmussen
Rasmussen really used a crappy method to poll the race, but we really won't know until all ballots are counted, which pollster has the best method

22, Male, Conservative Republican, anti-teabag, NY-8

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I have a feeling
That this will be "that race" this cycle--the one where will take forever to count all the ballots, someone will ask for a recount, and we'll end up in court. Maybe not as bad as MN-Sen from last year but Alaska is a complicated enough state to begin with and the write-in bid only makes it more so.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
If Murkowski's vote drops of on election day
wouldn't that benefit MacAdams? MOst of her core supporters (I assume ) are republicans who would otherwise vote for Miller. I'd guess most of her drop off will come from democrats.

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Anyone else feel screwed with Murkowski running?
Worse favorables than O'Donnel?  That's pretty bad.

In this environment,
+2 favorable (48/46) is pretty damn good. Not really useful to compare her to McAdams', as he's been able to remain above the fray, due to the nature of the race.

[ Parent ]
I mean Miller's favorables


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I do
I've maintained from the beginning that McAdams would have had a better chance in a 2-way.  After seeing Miller's horrible numbers, I actually think McAdams would have been running dead even at this point.  (DCCyclone and I have kept up a running debate on this matter, and I hope we get to hear his current take on it soon.)

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Miller's favorability numbers have likely dropped because of the barrage of ads coming from Murkowski. McAdams would never have had the funds to drive down Miller's favorables and would still be behind.  

21, Conservative Gay Democrat, NM-2 (Childhood) TX-10 (Home) TX-23 (School);   DKos: wwmiv.

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DSCC could easily have done that
Begich would have clamored for it; also, that would allow McAdams to keep his hands clean.  I agree that letting Murkowski do the dirty work (and pay for it) is one of the few benefits of the 3-way.

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The DSCC would have never gotten involved. They're too busy saving their own incumbents and seats which would have appeared as better races due to their closer margins.  CO, NV, IL, and PA would all have seemed like better bets than AK.  

21, Conservative Gay Democrat, NM-2 (Childhood) TX-10 (Home) TX-23 (School);   DKos: wwmiv.

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They're not that cash-strapped
They've also spent on KY, NH, and I believe MO.  And Alaska media is dirt cheap, so they get maximum bang for the buck.

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