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SSP Daily Digest: 9/29 (Afternoon Edition)

by: Crisitunity

Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 4:17 PM EDT


AK-Sen: The Tea Party Express is reloading in Alaska, with Lisa Murkowski having popped up again as a target. They're launching a new ad blitz starting Monday, although no word on how much they plan to spend on this go-round.

CA-Sen: It seems like the NRSC can read the handwriting on the wall in California: they've canceled a $1.9 million ad buy on Carly Fiorina's behalf for the last week before the election (probably sensing that money's more valuable in West Virginia). They're, of course, framing it as "advancing in another direction," saying they wanted to give her flexibility to spend the money "around the state and not just in one city."

CO-Sen: Greenberg Quinlan Rosner for DSCC (9/22-26, likely voters, no trendlines):

Michael Bennet (D-inc): 48
Ken Buck (R): 46
(n=800)

The DSCC has the first publicly-offered poll in a while giving Michael Bennet a lead, here up 2 on Ken Buck. (The last poll with a Bennet lead seems to be that joint POS/Fairbank Maslin poll from early September, which had him up by 3.)

DE-Sen: Wow, Christine O'Donnell's resume (on her LinkedIn profile) is falling apart like it was made out of balsa wood and chewing gum. After getting called on not having actually taken any classes at Oxford yesterday, now it turns out that she never took any classes at Claremont Graduate University. And she's offering a really strange denial, the kind of thing you might expect from a first-grader rather than a 41-year old: that Linked In profile with her name on it? Yeah, she's saying she didn't put it up and doesn't know who did.

LA-Sen: I don't know if anyone has compared this yet to that epic-length R. Kelly video that has him hiding in closet and there's a dwarf apropos of nothing? At any rate, Charlie Melancon is out with a new ad that's not the first time he's broached the issue of David Vitter's, um, personal failings... but this one goes on for two whole minutes, chronicling the whole thing in great detail. Given its remarkable length, it should be no surprise that it's only running on cable.

NC-Sen: Public Policy Polling (pdf) (9/23-26, likely voters, late Aug. in parentheses):

Elaine Marshall (D): 36 (38)
Richard Burr (R-inc): 49 (43)
Michael Beitler (L):  (6)
Undecided: 11 (13)
(MoE: ±3.8%)

The movement toward Richard Burr (thanks to his seemingly-effective advertising, paid for with his huge financial edge) shown by other pollsters is corroborated by PPP, who've tended to see a closer race here in their home state than anyone else. He leads by 13, instead of 5 like last time. One galling number, indicating this could be a real race if Elaine Marshall had any money (not forthcoming, since the DSCC is playing so much defense elsewhere), is that Marshall actually leads 47-45 among those who have an opinion of her.

NV-Sen: Jon Ralston continues to pummel Sharron Angle, this time over her strange attempts to walk back claims that she wants to privatize the VA. "Walk back" may not even be the right word, since her seem to involve the argument that she never actually said the words that she previously said in May. Meanwhile, here's the level of message discipline they have over at Camp Angle: her own spokesperson is criticizing Angle's latest ad on immigration as "propaganda," in her side gig as chair of the Nevada Republican Hispanic Caucus!

WA-Sen: Who's the most popular politician in America these days? Bill Clinton, believe it or not. So it's no surprise he's in demand as Democratic surrogate, and he's even coming to Washington on Patty Murray's behalf, headlining a Boeing-themed event in Everett on Oct. 18.

CA-Gov: This story seems to be developing as the day goes on: Meg Whitman's camp has had to cop to the fact that she once employed a housekeeper who was, gasp, an illegal immigrant. The fight... which will probably determine how much of a story this becomes (if any) over the next few days... seems to be over how much Whitman personally knew about her status (although the non-matching social security number seems like it should've been a tipoff).

CO-Gov: Wow, this might actually help Dan Maes climb his way out of polling in the low teens! Today he offers some exculpatory evidence that he did too sorta-kinda work as an undercover officer for a small-town police department in Kansas. (Of course, it also shows that he was in fact fired for leaking information about the probe to the relative of a target.)

OH-Gov: Benenson for Campaign for the Moderate Majority (9/25-27, likely voters, no trendlines):

Ted Strickland (D-inc): 41
John Kasich (R): 40
Undecided: 13
(MoE: ±4%)

You might apply a little salt as this is a poll by a Dem pollster for Dem-sounding group, but this is still the first we've seen this in a long, long while... a poll with Ted Strickland in the lead. With a trio of polls in the last few days showing Strickland down by either 1 or 2, there's some definite late closing in this race. (One strange item, though, is that "other" candidates are eating up 6% of the vote here. I'd be surprised if that continues.)

CO-02: Magellan (9/29, likely voters, no trendlines):

Jared Polis (D-inc): 48
Stephen Bailey (R): 36
Undecided: 8
(MoE: ±3.7%)

I'm not sure why Magellan fired up their crack team of robo-dialers to test this race, not really on anyone's radar screen -- maybe they're prospecting for unusual targets. As one would expect, Jared Polis isn't in particular danger in this D+11 district, although thanks to the drag of the national climate his numbers seem softer than the district's heavy lean.

NC-07: SurveyUSA for Civitas (pdf) (9/24-26, likely voters, no trendlines):

Mike McIntyre (D-inc): 45
Ilario Pantano (R): 46
(MoE: ±4.4%)

SurveyUSA takes a look at NC-07, as part of the Civitas Institute's rotating cast of pollsters. The (not very comforting) good news is that this is SurveyUSA, which has been putting out very GOP-friendly polling in House races, especially in North Carolina. (See their NC-11 polling, compared to other sources.) The bad news is that this race is pretty low on people's watch lists, although the NRCC has started to spending some money on ads here.

VA-02: POS for Scott Rigell (9/26-27, likely voters, no trendlines):

Glenn Nye (D-inc): 35
Scott Rigell (R): 42
Kenny Golden (I): 5  
Undecided: 18
(MoE: ±4.9%)

On top of the NRCC internal poll leaked yesterday (giving Scott Rigell a decent if not-awe-inspiring 45-40 lead over Glenn Nye in an Ayres McHenry poll on 9/23-26), now Rigell's out with his own internal poll from POS giving him a slightly bigger lead. There's one very strange detail here, though: the voters going for tea-flavored indie Kenny Golden seem to be coming out Glenn Nye's column, as that subsample has 59/23 Obama approvals. The MoE on that subsample is probably astronomical, but still, there seems to be some message confusion here about who's who.

WI-07: POS for Sean Duffy (9/21-22, likely voters, no trendlines):

Julie Lassa (D): 43
Sean Duffy (R): 47
(MoE: ±4.9%)

With Julie Lassa having released a poll yesterday showing her down by 1, Sean Duffy retaliated with a poll showing, well, not much difference: his poll has Lassa down by 4. This gets a little confusing, because the NRCC is out with a totally different internal poll today giving Duffy a better result (see below). At any rate, the polls taken in combination seem to give him a definite advantage here.

NRSC: Here are some McCain Bucks that are actually worth something in the real world! Apparently feeling confident in his general (having survived a bigger challenge in his primary from J.D. Hayworth), John McCain just kicked $1 million over to the NRSC. (Alternate title: Good news! From John McCain!)

NRCC: In addition to those couple candidate-released internals, the NRCC leaked five more internals of its own today to the Hotline, the majority of which confirm the expected trouble in three Midwestern open seats, but one showing a sleepy race is a live one and one with flat-out awful numbers for the Dem:
WI-08: Steve Kagen (D-inc) 39%, Reid Ribble (R) 57% (OnMessage, 9/15-16)
IL-17: Phil Hare (D-inc) 43%, Bobby Schilling (R) 44% (Tarrance Group, 9/23-25)
WI-07: Julie Lassa (D) 38%, Sean Duffy (R) 52% (Fabrizio, McLaughlin 9/15-16)
MI-01: Gary McDowell (D) 24%, Dan Benishek (R) 40% (Hill Research, 9/19-22) (um, no polling on Glenn Wilson?)
IN-08: Trent Van Haaften (D) 20%, Larry Buchson (R) 41% (OnMessage, 9/13-14)

American Crossroads: Money's flowing out of American Crossroads as fast as it flows in, from their handful of billionaire donors: they're launching TV ad buys worth $724K in CO-Sen, $618K in IL-Sen, $346K in NV-Sen, $267K in PA-Sen, $492K in WA-Sen, $384K in MO-Sen, and also $247K in direct mail in FL-Sen. (Here's a peek at their WA-Sen ad.)

NFIB: Committees? Who needs 'em? The National Federation of Independent Business is getting straight into the IE business, too, and in a big way. They have a new PA-Sen ad out (see the link). They're also starting to advertise in NC-Sen, WI-Sen, IN-08, WI-07, ND-AL, OH-16, NM-01, NV-03, FL-08, SC-05, VA-05, and WI-08.

State legislatures: Louis Jacobson, writing for Governing magazine, updates his state legislature projections, with almost every move in the Republicans' favor. 25 of the 28 chambers "in play" are Democratic-controlled. The most alarming moves include moving the Dem-held Pennsylvania House and Ohio House to Lean Republican, and the North Carolina Senate and Colorado House to Tossup. The one remaining viable pickup opportunity for Dems is the Texas House.

Polltopia: There isn't exactly anything new in this Politico piece from Maggie Haberman, but it does convey that professional pollsters and poll watchers in the Beltway are throwing up their hands in frustration about wildly vacillating, inconclusive polling this cycle as the rest of us are... showing that, really, nobody has much of a clue as to what's about to happen. Just to help everyone take a deep breath and keep things in perspective here...

SSP TV:
FL-Sen: The winning ad of the day comes from the Florida Democratic Party, on Kendrick Meek's behalf, letting Charlie Crist do all the talking about how he's really a conservative Republican
WI-Sen: I actually agree with the Fix here that this is an effective Ron Johnson ad, letting him play the outsider in the same way that Russ Feingold did 18 years ago
WV-Sen: The NRSC contrasts at-home Joe Manchin vs. Washington Joe Manchin
FL-Gov: The FDP is also out with two different ads in the Governor's race, hitting Rick Scott on his Columbia/HCA tenure and contrasting that with Alex Sink's uncontroversial time at Bank of America
MA-Gov: The RGA keeps hitting Tim Cahill (on the lottery this time), knowing full well that less Cahill means more Charlie Baker
MD-Gov: Martin O'Malley is one politician embracing instead of fleeing Barack Obama, in a new radio ad
FL-22: Ron Klein is out with another anti-Allen West ad, but it's back to the tax liens instead of dipping into the well of crazy
IA-01: AFF is out with a mondo-sized ad buy against Bruce Braley in a race that no one else but them seems to be paying attention to (for $800K!) (h/t desmoinesdem)
KS-03: Stephene Moore is finally out with her first TV spot, which is mostly an attack on Kevin Yoder (though self-narrated, which is unusual for that)
NH-02: Ann McLane Kuster's out with an ad hitting Charlie Bass for wanting to "pick up where he left off"
NV-03: Here's a link to that Dina Titus "peas in a pod" ad that we mentioned this morning, tying Joe Heck to Sharron Angle
PA-12: Mark Critz's first ad talks about his own hardscrabble roots, and about outsourcing
WI-07: As cool as it is to watch, how many more ads is Sean Duffy going to keep playing lumberjack in?

Rasmussen:
OH-Sen: Lee Fisher (D) 42%, Rob Portman (R) 51%

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More
hilarity from Christine O'Donnell. This time she says that god told her not to drop out.

Christine O'Donnell says a higher power persuaded her not to drop her bid for Delaware's GOP Senate nomination.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s...

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


Waiting for a politician to say
"I was going to run for reelection, but God persuaded me that I should abandon my political career and devote my life to serving the needy" or something to that effect.

You're whispering in my ear
Tell me all the things that I wanna to hear...

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


[ Parent ]
O'Donnell overkill
She is crazy, but no crazier than half a dozen other GOP candidates this cycle. The feeding frenzy is a bit much.

[ Parent ]
Oh snap
Lee Fisher is kicking Lee Fisher's ass!

Sorry for being obnoxious; clearly a typo...

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan


Crisitunity, your Rasmussen OH-Sen poll...
...shows your desperation to show Fisher winning, even if only against himself!  (Read it closely.)

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

Good diary, Crisitunity
nm

WV-Sen
The NRSC radio ad about Manchin sounds like a winner. It reminds me a lot of the DSCC spot on Liddy Dole with the rocking chairs. I think it can connect to a lot of voters, unfortunately.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

The NRSC is pretty-well run if the Tea Party can stay out of its way
Cornyn did a good job of recruiting a mix of established and outsider candidates this year, and although the Tea Party has taken Delaware out of the mix, the NRSC has 12 Democratic seats in play to one degree or another in large part due to some god recruiting.

The WV-Sen radio ad is very good, I agree. If Raese wins he can write the "How to beat an opponent with 70% favorables" guide, and maybe help Angle with her "How to lose to an opponent your state hates" guide.  

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
Agreed its a good ad
It hits all the right notes for Raese. Basically drawing the distinction between the WV Joe they all like and the Washington Joe who will be an "Obama Rubber Stamp".

Its such a smart strategy for the GOP and they are executing it flawlessly.

Manchin really hasnt been able to come up with a good response to it. From the start he needed to give WV voters a good reason they should remove him from a job that they approve him doing and sending him up to Washington.

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[ Parent ]
Its the best path to victory
Its also hard to miss the message of "Keep Manchin in the Mansion". They spell it out as clearly as possible without actually saying it.

[ Parent ]
MI-01: Judge rules that Dan Benishek
deliberately underestimated his income by $100K during court proceedings in order to pay significantly less in child support.
http://michiganmessenger.com/4...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


That's the kind of moral turpitude
I would hope would sink anyone's electoral chances.

Does anyone have any insight into whether that district, which apparently is at least somewhat socially conservative, cares as much or almost as much about non-payment of child support as they do about abortion and such?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
So a friend from college
who just got his first job out of college has a fbook status saying that for his job as a legislative associate for someplace in DC he is researching races and looking up all the info on them.

Um, fuck that, we all do that for free.


Find this organization
Call them up, say we'll do it at 3/4 the cost, and we can use the money to get cooler web hosting stuff and what have you.

Or we could host an ice cream social, whatever.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


[ Parent ]
PA-12: That ad is very good. I hope it works out.
On WV-Sen: The DSCC has started to advertise too and the AFL-CIO is going to bring the hammer down there as well.  Manchin has to portray himself as someone who will legislate independently.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


WV is a big union state.
Hopefully they will use their clout to help Manchin win.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
FL-Gov: Glad the FL Dem Party is putting their foot in.
All stops need to be pulled out to defeat Rick Scott, the Goblin King.
Rick Scott

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


LOL, win.


26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

[ Parent ]
Pacific Firewall anyone?
LVs:

Boxer (D) 52%
Fiorina (R) 43%

Brown (D) 52%
Whitman (R) 43%

RVs:

Boxer (D) 56%
Fiorina (R) 37%

Brown (D) 52%
Whitman (R) 39%

I'll take 'em.

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan


I'll be so happy to see Whitman go down.
I frankly never understood why she wanted to run anyway.  Why the heck would she want to run California?  She would be in constant opposition to the legislature and the logjams will stay in place and might even get worse.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
hard to believe those margins
but I do think Boxer and Brown will win.

[ Parent ]
The gap between LV/RV in the Boxer-Fiorina race is amazing
Fiorina's supporters are fired up, while many of Boxer's seem rather complacent. Even so, this combo doesn't look poised to catapult Fiorina any higher than 45%. It won't surprise me if Boxer wins by 9% come election night, but I suspect she's really up by 6-7% right now, with Brown up 3-4%. If Fiorina wants to win this thing, she needs to break her pledge and pour a few tens of millions into this. 'Cuz we all know Whitman will. If Boxer and Brown are shoring up the Dems, they need to make big inroads with Indies who are still undecided.

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[ Parent ]
vote by mail
CA is a vote by mail state, and it takes a lot less motivation to fill out a ballot and mail it in during some dead time in the 30 days leading up to the election than to take time out of your schedule and stand in line on election day. The enthusiasm gap probably will not be a big deal here. I think the margin will be closer to the RV polls than the LV polls. I also expect Kitzhaber to beat Dudley in Oregon even though he does poorly in LV polls.

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
Maine, too
LePage (R) 30% [38]
Mitchell (D) 29% [25]
Cutler (I) 9%
Moody (I) 5%

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

here
http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid...

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

[ Parent ]
I guess LePage's dickishness is catching up to him.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Actually, Mitchell leads LePage 30-29
You reversed the toplines in the Civitas Poll.

[ Parent ]
The movement is what's great here.
A LOT of people appear to moving from LePage either to Mitchell or to undecided.  Good stuff.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

[ Parent ]
CA - CNN shows 9 point leads for Brown and Boxer
http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

I am so glad to see our California candidates pulling away (knock on wood).  The Fiorina ad pullback described on the front page is symptomatic.  This is huge strategically for the Dems, as it allows the DGA and DSCC to focus resources where they are badly needed throughout the country.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


DGA
I agree. With Strickland's comeback, now is the perfect time for some national money to come in and put him over the top.  

33, male, Dem, OH-13

[ Parent ]
Yes, IE's to the rescue.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Agree!
And California has to be one of the most expensive states to advertise in, if not THE most. So this means we may be able to redirect resources to other states, where we'll also be able to get more bang for the buck.

PS. First comment here. :)


[ Parent ]
NC-07
Nice to see that they put a split up by County.

But if you look at the percentages each county's share of the 2008 House vote compared to each county's share of the sample

Bladen: 4.83% 2008/6% poll (55-35 Pantano)
Brunswick: 16.49% 2008/18% poll (57-41 Pantano)
Columbus: 7.67% 2008/7% poll (55-37 Pantano)
Cumberland: 11.13% 2008/16% poll (55-29 Pantano)
New Hanover: 31.19% 2008/28% poll (49-46 McIntyre)
Pender: 7.36% 2008/7% poll (55-40 McIntyre)
Robeson: 13% 2008/13% poll (71-13 McIntyre)

In those 7 counties, Pantano has 43.58%, McIntyre has 43.51%. But on the 2008 splits, it's McIntyre 43.07%, Pantano 41.37%

Of those 7, McIntyre's above average counties were Bladen (82%), Columbus (80%), and Robeson (86%). The poll has Pantano winning Bladen by 20, and Columbus by 18.

Oh yeah, it's also a poll of 450 registered voters. 4.6% MOE. The Pantano/McIntyre question is 6 questions in. They have half of African-Americans (in their tiny overall sample) going to Pantano.

During that one summer I was frontpaging here in 2006, SurveyUSA sent an e-mail telling me to not call them SUSA. So in that spirit. SUSA is gonna join Research 2000 if they can't pull it out this cycle. SUSA has something to lose. Rasmussen doesn't. Because being wrong never stopped a Conservative media outlet before.


Survey USA
frequently produces results for Republicans that are better than Republican internals now.  This is no exception, as Pantano's internals have him down 6 or so.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

[ Parent ]
Oh yeah
Pantano by 18 amongst 18-34s in SUSAland.

If they get lucky and that turns out to be right, then you have to wonder how badly bungled some of the orgs have been post-2008. Like OFA (or as it seems to be lately, e-mail blasts for America).


[ Parent ]
McIntyre is pretty entrenched.
He's also a member of "The Family", so I'm sure he will have some additional help through their network.

Pantano also has exploitable baggage.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
In any other year, I'd be glad to see McIntire lose
He's a DINO on most issues that count. But he votes for Pelosi for speaker, so we need him to win. This year.

[ Parent ]
I'm sick and tired of hearing about DINOs.
Bear83, you know just as well as I do, that McIntyre does not represent a D+40 district.  

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
(looks it up)
Hmm... McCain won NC-07 52%-47% even as Obama won the state.

[ Parent ]
And I'm sick of people who excuse DINOs
A political party has to stand for something.  You don't see any, or nearly any, Republicans breaking ranks on economic issues the way Democrats do.  And those are often in districts where hardly anyone makes more than $250,000.  I'm willing to excuse Democrats who vote conservatively on cultural issues, abortion, gun control, etc., because of the nature of their district.  I'm not willing to excuse any Democrat who votes that way on economic issues.  They're DINOs.

[ Parent ]
You don't seem to understand.
To build a big tent political party, you will have some socialist Democrats. You will have some liberal Democrats. You will have some moderate Democrats. And yes, Paleo, you will have some conservative Democrats, who will vote the way their district is telling them to vote. Yes, Bobby Bright, Walt Minnick, and Chet Edwards were told to vote against HCR. So they did. There's nothing wrong with that.

Under your philosophy, Gene Taylor should vote for Healthcare reform and risk losing an election for it. Under your philosophy, Jim Himes (who represents wealthy Connecticut), should vote for wealthy tax increases and risk losing an election for it. If they lose we have somebody who votes with us 10% of the time rather than 60% (Taylor), 95% (Himes). We are seeing the effects of someone not voting their district in Alan Grayson (though that's more to all of the over the top shit and in VA-05)

Now, let's look at the Republicans. They don't have a big tent. They don't have a strong future as a political party. How many Republicans really need to break ranks to win this year?  

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


[ Parent ]
If progressives purge the DINOs like the Tea Party has purged the RINOs
We are going to see a legitimate third party--not just independents, but a national, moderate party contesting elections coast to coast. A few years ago, I never would have thought this possible, but the parties are both moving towards their bases and there's a lot more room in the center than there used to be.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
I
do not think dems are going to go full out tea bagging like you guys did this cycle. The only incumbent dem I see potentially (more than likely not) getting a primary in 2012 is Ben Nelson. Again I highly doubt that even happens. Lieberman is indy so he doesn't count. You do see some liberal purism online but in reality we our luckily still a big tent party overall. Why would we spend money on Bobby Bright if we were not? Maybe I'm wrong, I am biased after all, but I think you guys are worse at purism in electoral politics and I do not see that changing within the near future. To your third party front, trust me I am older, people have been talking about how a third party is just above the horizon since I was a kid, it is not going to happen in our lifetime.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Contradiction?
You think more likely than not Ben Nelson will get a primary and then you say he won't? I really hope he doesn't - no liberal Dem can win there. It isn't even a state receptive to populists. And who do the Democrats have to run?

Personally, I don't think any Democratic Senator up in 2012 or 2014 for that matter needs to have a primary. In the House, Lynch, and Lipinski (But this is less about his political views than the way he was appointed to his seat)

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


[ Parent ]
No
What I was saying is that he is the only dem Senator I can potentially see getting a primary challenge. I seriously doubt he will though.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Progressives Have Been...
...targeting DINOs for years, the only real difference is they've been much more strategic about it- northeastern states where the incumbent really was far more conservative than his or her district. Lincoln this year was probably the only time they wanted to take out someone with a fairly conservative electorate, but she was going to lose that race anyway.

There's generally very little appetite on the left to primary a Dem just for being more conservative than the national base. Generally, there has to be an element of betrayal- publicly shitting on your party's national security credentials, extorting your party on it's #1 legislative priority of the last century, etc. Of course, Dem office holders seem more inclined to do that than Republicans, but I think that's a function of having a more ideologically diverse party to begin with.


[ Parent ]
No you wouldn't.
The two party system is so deeply ingrained into our political landscape that every Democrat and Republican in office could pledge allegiance to Cthulhu and they'd still win the vast majority of the vote.

In related news, I recently learned that in NY you can't be a poll worker unless you're registered with one of the two major parties. It's just so stupid.


[ Parent ]
The voters are

about to render this argument rather moot by voting out the bulk of conservative Democrats this election.  At least in the House.  And since elections seem to work in pairs, 2012 will probably extend the massacre.  IIRC Ben Nelson's approval numbers (around 35/55) mean his chances of reelection are practically zero.

The conservative Democratic electorate is shrinking away in any case.  There isn't going to be much of a resurrection.

It sort of doesn't matter whether Republicans decide to have a 'big' or a 'small' tent; that only sets the level of infighting.  These days they're motivated and united by what they oppose, not what they favor.


[ Parent ]
Big tent = big fail
Wonder why the Democrats constantly have trouble governing when they're in power?  There's your answer.  The Republicans, for all their extremism and unpopularity, are able to govern because of their ideological cohesion.  

[ Parent ]
I think this is not a SSP topic
Yes, I used to indulge in this topic, too, but I now understand why duplicating the intra-mural ideological disputes from DailyKos is a bad idea. You can always make your arguments there, for all the good it will do. Here, we don't talk about how the Democrats do or don't govern, except inasmuch as it affects their chances in election campaigns. As for whether the Republicans are governing, well, I'm tempted to argue with that kind of assertion, but I'll restrain myself.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
I didn't bring the DINO issue up
I was just responding.

[ Parent ]
Your post multiplied by millions, NOT Democratic governance, is why we're struggling this November......
We got a huge stimulus and a major health care reform law and a major financial industry overhaul law and the first Latina Supreme Court Justice and Lilly Ledbetter and so many other things that I can't remember off the top of my head......and somehow we "have trouble governing"???

If you characterize these 2 years as "trouble governing," I don't know what "successful" looks like.

Democrats have this notion that somehow if the Republicans do ONE thing for an entire Congress that Democrats don't like, the Republicans are wildly successful, moreso than a Democratic Congress that accomplishes 20 things.

The 111th Congress has done a helluva lot of good for their country and they and the President, and yes even the previous President in his final months, combined to stop a Second Great Depression and keep us all out of soup lines.

The Republicans stand against that all in their great delusion.

And for that reason, DEMOCRATS DESERVE TO BE REELECTED.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Yes
let's purify the party. We can have a solid voting minority for years to come.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Come on!
Don't you want to join us in la-la land?  

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Then - welcome to permanent minority!
20% of Americans, who call themselves "liberals", will find itself in deepest asshole if they follow your advice. And "we" (centrists) will gladly take "other part of Democratic party" and sane Republicans (which still exist) as a "free addition". May be then there will be at least a chance for true multiparty system and for moderates to be well represented and respected in Congress.

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Another reason that Grayson is a dumb fuck
for his "Taliban Dan" ad.  Previously cash strapped Webster is getting lots of fundraising attention now.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/ey...

Nice going, Alan.  Dumbass.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


FL-GOV/SEN - I fear for Alex Sink
http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

CNN has her down 2.

Her "high road" campaign is reminding me of 2004 Senate candidate Betty Castor, who lost to the vastly inferior Mel Martinez.  Your opponent is a goddamned criminal Alex!!!  Get after him!!!

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


Those FL Dem Party ads linked above are going to do just that.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Y'know, I'd like that in an ad
"Hi I'm Alex Sink. This November you have a choice. Me, your CFO who has managed banks BEFORE shit hit the fan, and carefully watched your budget here in Florida for the last four years OR you can elect the crook. That's right I said crook, here's the indictment papers" holds them up  "It's your future Florida, do you want to be the laughing stock that elected Lex Luthor?"

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

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Hey now
Lex Luthor's might have been a power-hungry maniac, but at least he's got some brains, can't really say the same thing about Rick Scott!

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Good news in IL
or maybe just an outlier.  Giannoulias by 1 and Quinn only down 2?  I am particularly skeptical of the latter.

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


Everyone's fave
Scott Lee Cohen is received 14%!!!!

This, plus another independent, means that only 4% are undecided?...

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan


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I'll say it.
Any Illinois Democrat that votes for Cohen is an outright idiot, and/or is cutting off their nose to spite their face.

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NC-Sen : Sad Numbers
Unless Marshall gets an infusion of money or outside help, it looks like Burr may be the one who finally breaks the 40 year curse on NC senators not named Helms.

It's a damn shame - most voters either hate him or don't know who he is.



I said this in another thread
But I wouldn't give Elaine Marshall any money if I were the DSCC. In a cycle like this, you have to expect the candidates to deliver on some fundraising. This is not like Kay Hagen's situation two years ago, when the DSCC had lots of extra money to play with.

North Carolina is not a cheap state to advertise and all the numbers are going the wrong way. There are better opportunities.  


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Murkowski down by 2 to Miller
So
the whole thing where a three-way totally kills McAdams shot at winning is panning out. Especially with Dems going to Murkowski in this poll.

Although 36% with her presented as an option is going to be artificially high, since it's not presented like it will look on a ballot. She probably has to be winning clearly to have a good shot at pulling it out over Miller.


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Disagree, this race has potential for great volatility......
This is a race where the D is unknown and on TV only very recently but appears to have the resources to define himself visibly; the R is unknown except for warts that have yet to be fully exploited; and Lisa is a write-in with no party support and no evidence of an organic personal following, meaning her support is inherently unstable.

The polling in the race so far is as follows over a month's time:

PPP:  38R-34I-22D
Rasmussen:  42R-27I-25D
CNN/Time:  38-36I-22D

These polls give Lisa a share of Democrats at, respectively, 28%, 18%, and 39%.  Murkowski got 11% of Democrats in 2004 with her name on the ballot as a major party nominee and incumbent, and the other 89% are people who have NEVER voted for her and HAVE voted against her.  Since then, she has a garden variety conservative voting record and she already has promised to caucus with the GOP if she wins.  She's going to have to try to get these people to stay with her long enough to write in her name.  That's a tall order, it's asking for a lot, and I doubt she will get it.

These same 3 polls give Lisa independents at 38%, 30%, and 38%, the same in 2 of the 3 as the 38% she got in 2004.  But the rest in 2004 went to Begich, while the rest now go to Miller and McAdams, meaning Lisa has traded some GOP-leaning indies for Dem-leaning indies.  Those Dem-leaning indies that pick her in surveys now, like Dems, are going to be hard-pressed to actually write in her name over picking a Democrat on the ballot.

McAdams is not in a bad position at all right now.  I firmly believe he would have had a much harder time cobbling together a plurality coalition in a 2-way vs. Miller than in a 3-way now.

And I can very easily see Murkowski and Miller nuking each other to where McAdams becomes the only palatable option for Dems and Dem-leaners.

Lisa's support is the least solid of the 3 and I would bet everything that it will shrink.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Best argument yet favoring the 3-way
And I can very easily see Murkowski and Miller nuking each other to where McAdams becomes the only palatable option for Dems and Dem-leaners.

Still, McAdams can't afford to be viewed as the third-place candidate, even if he isn't.  Like Charlie Brown, Alaskan Democrats and their allies have had the football pulled away from them too many times, and they recognize the real danger Joe Miller poses to their state.


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Alaska Dems can't walk away from McAdams, or they're screwed much worse long-term......
Joe Miller is just one vote in the Senate, and he'll vote the same as Murkowski.  She's already promised to caucus with the GOP, too.

Yes Miller appears ready to disregard the state's want and need for federal largesse, but Begich and Young don't and won't disregard it.

These are not hard things to get across or come to realize.

Beyond that, there's no other reason for a Democrat or Dem-leaner to write in Murkowski's name.  It's a lot of effort for the same representation they voted against 6 years ago and that most were planning to vote against again before the primary.

Meanwhile, if they abandon their own nominee en masse after he's aired major rotations of TV ads and Begich has been by his side, they're going to divide the party badly going forward and weaken themselves that much more.

What we're seeing in the polling is McAdams at his floor, Murkowski can't take any more votes away from him.  The low-to-mid-20s is as bad as it gets for him, these are the people who ALWAYS vote Democratic and won't vote for Lisa.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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does anyone know
how to find a list of different tv market areas? price would be nice too. google isn't helping

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

There is a list at this link
It looks like it has all the markets listed http://www.tvb.org/rcentral/ma...

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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thanks, but
do you know if there's anything that shows maps or county lists?

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

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Found this
http://www.dishuser.org/TVMark...

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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Here are some maps
http://www.city-data.com/forum...

Note that the two maps in that post are not entirely consistent with each other.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


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thanks alot
this is why i love the ssp community

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

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LA-3: new poll shows Landry crushing Downer in this Saturday's primary
http://www.nola.com/politics/i...

The automated telephone survey by ElectPoll shows Landry ahead 66-34 percent. The poll was conducted Sept. 27-28. The margin of error is +/- 4.21 percent. Respondents were registered Republicans who had voted in two of the last three primary elections (not including 2010).

Caveat: there are no undecideds in the poll.  Yes, the primary is on Saturday but the fact that everyone has made up there mind already seems unrealistic.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



I may
Change my weekend travel plans then if it seems like a waste of time. I have trouble with the poll though, since it shows Downer picking up no new voters, and many of Magar's supporters do not like Landry. Downer also attacked Landry hard this time, and Landry did not advertise as much since he thought he had it in the bag. Downer hammered Landry on TV over abortion and his military record. Landry only came out with one ad in the run off, that I have seen .

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One intresting datapoint: statewide turnout is expected to be at 23%.
http://www.nola.com/politics/i...

I assume this'll help Downer somewhat.  However, a good chunk, if not most, of the votes probably were already cast early due to the LSU game on Saturday.


21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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The higher the turnout
The better for Downer. I think Sammy Kershaw's inability to really take off hurts him, since Kershaw should do very well in the district.

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I may
Change my weekend travel plans then if it seems like a waste of time. I have trouble with the poll though, since it shows Downer picking up no new voters, and many of Magar's supporters do not like Landry. Downer also attacked Landry hard this time, and Landry did not advertise as much since he thought he had it in the bag. Downer hammered Landry on TV over abortion and his military record. Landry only came out with one ad in the run off, that I have seen .

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IL-08
Joe Walsh 41.13% R
Melissa Bean 41.06% D

Brady beating Quinn in this district 44 to 27.

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


Source?


26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

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It's We ask America
Which should be renamed, "We Ask America to Answer Republican."

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The district had one of the most drastic shifts from '04 to '08.
It went for Bush by 11 and then Obama by 13--a 12 point gain for the Democrat over four years. Illinois itself only swung 7 points to the left from '04 to '08, partially because Chicago voted so heavily Democratic in '04 that there was no room for it to get bluer in '08. So Republicans either perform 6 or 11 points better here than across Illinois. Which means the gube numbers are probably accurate.

However accurate the Brady-Quinn matchup may be, I'm not buying that Walsh is tied with Bean. Isn't he the guy whose campaign completely imploded after the primaries?

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


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CA-Gov, Lt. Gov: Big Dog making good on his pledge.
He will do a rally with Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom at UCLA on October 15. http://www.facebook.com/jerryb...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


KS-03: Adorable Attack Ad
The reason they had Stephene Moore not only narrate, but appear in that ad is that she makes it adorable. I mean, seriously, that is cute. With a scary VO, it would've been over the top and less effective. With her in it, it's matter of fact and almost upbeat, and you almost come away from watching thinking, "Well, I had no idea--thanks for showing up on my TV with the warning, Stephene, I really appreciate that."  

I'm telling you, she's got that no-nonsense Kansas Mom thing down pat--like when she puts her sensible pump in that revolving door of lobbying.

And you silly SSP folk were thinking this race was gonna Lean Republican.  :)

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


Not
to be a dick but I still see no evidence that this is not a lean or likely R race. The ad was ok but it's just an ad, not bad but not so great it changes the dynamics of the race. Until I see I poll I have no faith in this race. Hopefully I'm wrong though.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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WI-7 and WI-8
That poll doesn't look good for Kagen. He won narrowly in 2006, but I wouldn't expect him to be that far behind even in a Reep internal. The primary wasn't too long ago and unlike in WI-7 there was some uncertainty, so you might expect Ribble to get a bit of a primary bounce, but not that much. Has Kagen gone negative on Ribble yet?

I know Lassa has been beating up on Duffy, but it doesn't appear to be working.

41, Ind, CA-05


Not surprised
WI-8 is historically a Republican district.  Toby Roth was there for a long time.  I'm currently projecting Dems to lose both seats, but I think there's a greater likelihood of Lassa winning than Kagen.  Who's been a good representative, and it'll be a shame to lose him.

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Castle will announce tonight...
He will release a statement and told CNN earlier today that he was leaning against it.  Hopefully, that wasn't a ruse and he will simply retire.

It doesn't really matter what Castle does
Coons is favored to win in both scenarios, he'll have over 40% of the vote locked up no matter what happens which is more than enough to win in a legitimate 3-way.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Hope that Mike knows math
If he's successful, he risks the election of the person he least wants elected. So he can either lose badly, get Christine elected, or just ride off to the Florida Gulf Coast

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I'm going to repeat what I've been saying since the possible Castle bid popped up
Honestly, people here are basically assuming that, for some reason, in a three-way race between a moderate Republican, a conservative Republican, and a left-of-center Democrat for some reason the Democrat will suffer for it.

Castle is a Republican, a moderate Republican but still a Republican, maybe he takes a few Democrats, but Castle's base is with Republicans (he won a lot more Republicans than Democrats when he ran last year and in 2006, and that's almost certainly true of any year he runs).

I think too many people have taken the example of Charlie Crist and have turned it into the way it's always going to be in American politics.

Castle is a Republican his base of support is with Republicans. Nobody has explained why this Republican's hypothetical write-in campaign is suddenly going to be powered by largely left-of-center voters.


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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Castle decision has been delayed...
He was supposed to announce at 7pm... that doesn't sound good...

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It was delayed ;cos the house was still in session later than expected...
So, I would guess an announcement would be coming soon.

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As I said before, it makes no difference to me
Castle write-in or not, this is Coons's race to lose, and there isn't a good reason why I should believe that Castle would just take all, nearly all, or even a majority of his support from Coons voters (who are largely Democrats and Democratic-friendly Independents) rather than O'Donnell voters.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Just read on Twitter that Castle win not pursue a write in bid
@HotLineJeremy Castle says in a statement: "I do not believe that seeking office in this manner is in the best interest of all Delawareans."

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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should have said will not


24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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I will say this - I think Ramussen's numbers were downright implausible
Just think how easy it would be to write the name "Mike Castle" in that write-in box - it's a helluva lot more simple than spelling "Murkowski." Forget that mild tidbit, though. There are plenty of RINOS and Independents who would gladly welcome a Castle bid. My own projection, for what it's worth, has Coons up 42-31-27 over Castle and O'Donnell. Castle wins about 25% of Democrats and 40% of Republicans/Indies.

Democrat - 47%
GOP - 34%
Independent - 19%

Coons - 74/3/32 = 42%
O'Donnell - 3/59/29 = 27%
Castle - 23/38/39 = 31%

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This is much more reasonable than what others are saying
But I still think it overstates Castle's support by quite a bit. The problem for Castle isn't ease of writing the name, it's knowledge that he's even doing a write-in campaign at all. That alone is going to make it extremely difficult to crack 30% as a write-in candidate.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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What's implausible is pretending Castle would do any better than the teens, and most likely single digits is right......
The notion that Castle could get 31% as a write-in or anything remotely close to it is laughable.

I really don't understand this notion some people here have that Castle has this strong personal following that will follow him to the ends of the earth.  He doesn't.  He's a longtime pol who is liked and respected, but he shows no evidence of a personal following akin to Obama or Palin or others.  And he's not in the position as Crist, either, since Crist had a relatively weak Dem to try to marginalize, while Castle cannot marginalize either major party nominee; he IS the MARGINAL candidate, he's not someone who can substantial vote share without party support and infrastructure.

And yet you're arguing that a Castle write-in would reduce Coons' support to NOTHING more than he'd get one-on-one vs. Castle.

That's just absurd.

Rasmussen is in the right ballpark with their poll, Castle is single-digits if he does this.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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At least andyroo isn't assuming this race suddenly becomes a tossup
That, more than the really high Castle vote assumptions, is what's really getting on my nerves.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Carl
Paladino tells a reporter on camera, "I'll take you out."

(Fast forward to 0:48 for the good stuff.)

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


It's Fred Dicker
Paladino was upset because Dicker was going after him about his out of wedlock daughter. Apparently Dicker and the Post sent photographers to take pictures of her and it set Paladino off.

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