Awesome to see the DNC kick the snot out of the RNC

Michael Steele, I love you.

BAHAHAHAHAH

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20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

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by: daman09 @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 00:12:16 AM UTC

what did the DNC spend $11 million on

in July?

It's good that the RNC won't have money to fund the GOTV in the various states. I wonder who is going to pick up the slack for them.

Anyone know how many deadbeat House Democrats are still holding back the DCCC?

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by: desmoinesdem @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 00:41:00 AM UTC

They are

Expecting American Crossroads and the AAN to to GOTV. In states with Gov races, the RGA (and Bobby Jindal's Chief of staff!) are doing turnout. Maybe the NRSC will help them with turnout in states with Senate races.  

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by: GOPVOTER @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 00:54:17 AM UTC

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I thought the 527 groups

couldn't coordinate directly with campaigns. Seems like that would be a big issue for GOTV.

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by: desmoinesdem @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 02:46:46 AM UTC

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Yeah, that's what I thought.

And if true, thank God they can't.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!

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by: LookingOver @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 02:53:09 AM UTC

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Would they

Have to coordinate with a campaign to make GOTV calls for Republicans? I don't think so, as long as the campaign didn't ask them to. The AAN helped with turnout is races this year.  

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by: GOPVOTER @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 03:40:24 AM UTC

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Third-party groups can't do the

GOTV operations like a national party can. The GOP is going to lose races because of the RNC's money and organizational problems.  The DNC has been giving money to states for months to get GOTV operations going.

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by: askew @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 05:55:20 AM UTC

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Yup, and the best comparison of those approaches was 2004......

Bush employed a top-down field effort.  Kerry didn't have the money to do everything and instead relied on indie groups.  Kerry's approach proved woefully inefficient, and although high interest ensured high turnout and that voting targets were met, Bush's approach was far superior and produced far more Republican votes than anyone thought even existed.

Relying on new 3rd party groups, not even long-established ones, for the GOP this time is particularly weak.

It might not matter except on the margins, but Democrats will eek out of a few becuase of it.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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by: DCCyclone @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 12:18:51 PM UTC

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which is why Plouffe is at the DNC

I remember reading somewhere this was planned but not sure if he's over there working yet. And Organizing for America is very active as well, so it seems he's learning from Bush.  (Every future president needs to learn from Bush, he ran one of the most corrupt administrations and got away with just about everything.)

And if I had one complaint from 2008 field work it was that the Obama crew and the MN DFL were not able to work together very well and we all ended up repeating each other's work.  It was kind of an annoying mess, but at the same time I got to be lazy because the Obama people were already doing all my work.

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by: Andrew @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 16:12:32 PM UTC

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don't remind me

I was a precinct captain for the Kerry campaign in 2004, and a friend in my neighborhood was volunteering for America Coming Together (or whatever that 527 running field was called). We couldn't coordinate, so we duplicated each other's efforts horribly. So inefficient. We did exceed Kerry's vote goal for Iowa as a whole, but the problem was the Kerry campaign thought 700,000 votes would be enough to win Iowa. Instead, Kerry got 735,000 votes in Iowa and still lost to Bush by 12K.

Also there were too much focus in 2004 on getting reliable voters to vote early. We kept nagging people who never miss an election but enjoy the experience of voting on election day. It was irritating for them and a waste of our time. Now the Iowa Democratic Party is more focused on getting unreliable voters to vote early.

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by: desmoinesdem @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 19:07:25 PM UTC

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The vote goal wasn't just Kerry's mistake, no one thought so many Bush votes existed, and it was nationwide......

The political media were mostly in consensus that if turnout approached 60% of the eligible adult population, then Kerry would win comfortably.  Indeed, it was considered very realistic that if turnout exceeded 55%, Kerry likely would win.  Instead, it was actually a then-record 61%, and Kerry still lost by 3 points.

Kerry hit his vote targets in state after state.  Both campaigns knew that, and even the Bush campaign went into the early evening thinking they'd lost the election.

So many crazy left-wing conspiracy theorists complained Ohio was stolen, but in reality Kerry exceeded his vote goals all over the state.

There were just more Republican votes available than anyone knew.

And there still are!  McCain, for all the talk of a "depressed" GOP base and "lack" of GOP enthusiasm in 2008, exceeded Kerry's unquestioned-strong turnout by over 900,000 votes.

Voting is at an all-time high.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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by: DCCyclone @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 19:21:25 PM UTC

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That's definitely an Obama innovation

And honestly, I can't for the life of me figure out why Democrats didn't start doing that long before the Obama campaign did (I can guarantee that Obama was guaranteed a victory in New Mexico at least a week before the general election because of that).

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!

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by: DGM @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 19:24:18 PM UTC

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A lot

The DCCC refuses to share a full dues list with us, though - even though it seems pretty clear they give it to the hill rags from time to time. So unless you want to dig through a LOT of fundraising reports line by line, it's hard to know who is behind. (And also, without the D-Trip's sheet, it's generally hard to know how much each member knows, though estimates are possible.)

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by: DavidNYC @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 01:39:35 AM UTC

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How much each member OWES

Not "knows." Though it's probably hard to know how much MoCs know, too - about anything!

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by: DavidNYC @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 01:53:44 AM UTC

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There are a few I'm willing to forgive.

Vic Snyder's account is bone-dry and he's promising to campaign for candidates state-wide as a way to compensate.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!

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by: LookingOver @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 02:01:01 AM UTC

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I never thought about him

He's in a pickle since he doesn't raise money in off years.  

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by: GOPVOTER @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 02:34:18 AM UTC

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The RNC is in weak shape with a little over 2 months for the election

If the Republicans don't perform as well as they wanted to in November (not taking one House would be seen as a major failure by most GOPer's), the finger pointing will endless.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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by: DrPhillips @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 01:54:47 AM UTC

We know

Exactly where to point the big finger, right at Michael Steele.  

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by: GOPVOTER @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 02:34:55 AM UTC

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RGA /DGA numbers

Does anyone have any numbers from the RGA or DGA?  

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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by: Ryan_in_DelCo @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 02:35:47 AM UTC

They

Only report quarterly.

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by: GOPVOTER @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 03:38:53 AM UTC

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last numbers

according to politico...this was the last fundraising info

All told, the RGA has $31 million on hand, topping the DGA's $22 million.


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by: skywrnchsr509 @ Mon Aug 23, 2010 at 15:42:38 PM UTC

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