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Washington and Wyoming Primary Preview

by: Crisitunity

Tue Aug 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM EDT


WA-Sen (Top 2): The billed main event tonight is the Senate primary in Washington, but really, there's not much to see here, other than for Californians to get a good look at what they just signed themselves up for, with the weirdness that is the Top 2 primary. Polling has indicated that a Patty Murray/Dino Rossi is all but inevitable, with teabaggers Clint Didier and Paul Akers having gotten little traction (although they have successfully forced Rossi to the right, rhetorically). The real question for pollwatchers is what percentage Murray and Rossi get, as some sort of tea leaf for November. Polling would seem to project Murray in the mid-40s and Rossi in the mid-30s, with Didier in the low teens, but there is so much expectations management going on that that any result will be immediately spun as imminent doom/triumph. At any rate, the primary has always been a mediocre predictor of the general (just ask Darcy Burner, who beat Dave Reichert in the 2008 WA-08 primary), and that may be compounded today by mischievous Dems crossing over to try to help the unelectable Didier past Rossi (or else sitting out, as there's no Dem-on-Dem drama anywhere above the state legislative level).

WA-03 (Top 2): When a number of solid Dems jumped into this open seat race in the wake of Brian Baird's retirement announcement, this looked like it had the potential for a true rumble in the jungle (primary). But instead it coalesced into something pretty similar to the Senate race, where we were left with one establishment Democrat left standing, Denny Heck (a former state Rep. from long ago, now a wealthy businessman), and on the other side, one underwhelming establishment Republican (state Rep. Jaime Herrera) and a couple feistier Tea Party types (former Bush-era deputy assistant VA Sec. David Castillo, and David Hedrick, whose main claim to fame is shouting down Baird at a town hall). Which GOPer faces Heck is hard to gauge, without any polling evidence; Herrera has the financial advantage (enough to run ads on cable, unlike Castillo), but Castillo has more local endorsements and seemingly more ground-level enthusiasm. If this turns out close, it may be days before we know which GOPer advances, as Washington results are compiled notoriously slowly -- ballots postmarked through today can be counted.

WY-Gov (D): Dave Freudenthal could have opted to challenge term limits in court but decided not to, leaving the Blue Team struggling to field a candidate here. State Democratic Party chair Leslie Petersen jumped in, as did former University of Wyoming quarterback Pete Gosar. and three Some Dudes. No one's really paid much attention to this primary, given that whoever wins will be considered quite the long shot against whoever the Republican nominee turns out to be. The last (and only?) poll of this race had Petersen leading Gosar 30-22, with undecideds through the roof. Can you really blame the undecided 48% of Wyoming Dems though? (JMD)

WY-Gov (R): Seven GOPers have jumped into the race, perhaps sensing an opportunity. Four of them exceed the "Some Dude" threshold, namely state Auditor Rita Meyer, former US Attorney Matt Mead, state House speaker (and son of former US Senator Alan) Colin Simpson, and state Agriculture Director Ron Micheli. Sarah Palin's gotten her grubby Grizzly paws in this race, endorsing Meyer; George H.W. Bush countered with an endorsement of Simpson. The same Mason-Dixon poll had Meyer leading Mead 27-24, with Simpson at 17 and Micheli at 12. No runoffs here, so whoever pulls the plurality tonight will be the nominee. (JMD)

CA-SD15 (special general): Abel Maldonado vacated this Central Coast state Senate seat months ago after he was confirmed as Lieutenant Governor, but no one got 50% in the special primary, so we're doing it again! Republican state Assemblyman Sam Blakeslee of San Luis Obispo fell just a tad short of clearing the 50%+1 barrier last time, scoring 49.4% to Democratic teacher John Laird's 41.8%, with two independents of different parties getting the rest. The frustrating (or humorous) part in all of this is that we get to do this four person dance all over again, since the top finisher of each party moves on from the primary to the general! Given that Blakeslee came so close last time, it's hard to imagine what's shifted in the last eight weeks that Laird can pull this out and put the CA Senate Dems one closer to the magic 2/3rds mark. The wildcard, as always in special elections, is low turnout, but given how the enthusiasm gap has been, we can probably get around to anticipating what arcana the special election for Blakeslee's Assembly seat will bring. (JMD)

Polls close at 9 pm ET (7 pm MT) in Wyoming, and 11 pm ET (8 pm PT) in Washington.

If you have predictions, please feel free to share them in the comments.

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WY-Gov
I really don't know anything about this election, but since the Dems don't have a chance in hell, I'm casting my lot with Simpson. If he's anything like his dad, then he'll avoid the hotheaded rhetoric and put principals over politics. Then again he could be nuts, but surely a Palin endorsee can't be any better.

19, male, Dem, CT-04 (home) PA-02 (college and registered)

Ditto
I would love Simpson to win as well. I hope he runs for Senate a few years down the road.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
I predict in CA
That we will stay up late into the night as their vote counters have a ganja break, followed by a Jenga break.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

I hope it is close enough to have a
   ganga break, but I am worried based on the 6/22 primary results. John Laird is an excellent candidate. He was in the CA Assembly for six years (that is a hell of a short term limit!) and rose to being chair of the Assembly Budget Committee. Before that he also was on the Santa Cruz City Council and served as Mayor (the first openly gay mayor of that city.)

   Laird's biggest problem is the shape of the district; only the eastern half of Santa Cruz County is in the district; he had to move out of Santa Cruz (city of) to run. The June results were very regionalized with Laird winning in Santa Cruz and Monterey Counties, which he represented in the Assembly, and Blakeslee winning in San Luis Obispo and northern Santa Barbara Counties (his Assembly district.) There were more voters in the southern part of the district so the GOPper was ahead.

   Turnout is the key since it was so low in the primary (which GAShole* scheduled to not coincide with any other election so as to reduce Democratic turnout.) It is not impossible for John to win but it will be very difficult. At least he doesn't need a majority; 45% to 44% will do the trick this time. There are also two "some dude" candidates on the ballot, a Libertarian and an independent.

 *GAS is an acronym often used for Governor Ahhnold Scheissenegger.

52, male, disgruntled Democrat, CA-28


[ Parent ]
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Republican, isn't he?
So he did the only natural for any partisan politician thing: scheduled the race on a date which was the best for candidate of his party. I am sure that Democratic governor would schedule this race on a date most convenient for Laird. So, i see nothing unusual or deplorable on part of Arnold - it's normal partisan polics, practiced by politicians of both major parties in all 50 states

[ Parent ]
the deplorable part is that
  having the special elections as stand-alone elections cost a lot more money than having either the primary coincide with the 6/8 statewide primary or the general election on the same day as the November election. GAS talks about saving money while our state is in a budget crisis but clearly puts partisan advantage ahead of the state budget (actually the counties have to foot the bill). He is a lying sack of excrement; his words mean nothing. We in the formerly Golden State are pretty damn tired of his assholism. This is not his greatest offense but it adds to the pile. I am not willing to give him any slack at this point. Although California is a nation of immigrants I would like to see his sorry ass and shriveled testicles deported back to Europe (not that that is possible; I am aware that he is a naturalized U.S. citizen.)

52, male, disgruntled Democrat, CA-28

[ Parent ]
I visted
Hearst Castle last month which is in this state senate district. Its a very beautiful district, but once your out of Monterrey, your basically in small town, rural GOP territory. There were tons of Laird signs in Monterrey, Carmel, and just outside Monterrey. I also saw several huge Blakeslee signs outside Monterrey along the freeway. Sadly I don't expect Laird to win. Not only there are more votes in Blakeslee's assembly district, but he edged out Laird in Santa Clara county! I believe there are two major colleges, CSU Monterrey Bay and Cal Poly SLO in the district, but I don't think their back at school yet so no college boost for Laird.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
I looked at the Precinct results
The big sur coast voted for Obama and by large margins in some places. The Salinas Valley might be the conservative area you are thinking of. Although there are many conservative ranchers there, parts of the Salinas Valley are heavily Hispanic and vote Democratic.

Also, I have been doing phonebanking for Laird's campaign and I noticed many of the "Declined to State" voters were supporting Laird. He seems to have enthusiastic supporters too and he has brought people in to help him.

Laird's facebook page has about 1,300 likes while Blakeslee's facebook page has much less. Also, Laird received the endorsement of 8 out of the 9 major newspapers in the district. One newspaper even had to write an article about why they were publishing alot of letters to the editor supporting Laird and none supporting Blakeslee: Blakeslee supporters were not sending in letters.

Unfortunately, I do see a Blakeslee win but it should be narrower than expected. In the June election, his supporters seemed less enthusiastic and he did not have enough time to introduce himself to the voters. Also, he did pretty well in some recent debates.  

for more election analysis, visit  http://frogandturtle.blogspot....




17, CA-06,  


[ Parent ]
I was also phonebanking...
for Laird this weekend, but only calling registered Democrats who requested absentee ballots, but hadn't mailed it in yet.  Of those that picked up the phone, most said they were definitely going to vote for Laird, and already knew the instructions about handing it in in person at the polling place today (since they need the actual ballot in by today, and not just postmarked by today).

I was pleasantly surprised by the knowledge they had of the voting process, but then, these were pretty regular voters too.


[ Parent ]
Monterrey is the second largest city in Mexico
   In CA Monterey is spelled with one r. I agree that Laird is clearly the underdog in the race but there is hope until the last vote is counted. The district shouldn't have been drawn as it was in 2001; the Monterey Bay area shouldn't have been divided as it was. If this were Henry Mello's old Senate district then Laird would win almost certainly although special elections pose their own special turnout problems (as this area saw in the 1994 special election for Assembly after Sam Farr replaced Leon Panetta in Congress and his seat opened up. That led to Bruce McPherson, R-Santa Cruz. Nowadays R-Santa Cruz makes no sense...)

52, male, disgruntled Democrat, CA-28

[ Parent ]
Also
Monterey Institute for International Studies, which I am considering for grad school, is in this district too. Don't think it's very big though...on the other hand I believe it is exclusively a grad school in which case most students are probably there already.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
WA
I guess it will be a couple days before we actually know the results in WA since everything is a mail in ballot and it seems to take a bunch of time to get them all tabulated.


Actually the opposite is true
Most ballots will be counted tonight since they have already arrived at the county election's offices around the state.

There will be two "ballot drops" tonight. One at 8:15 and another around 10:15.

The 8:15 will consists of all the ballots that have arrived prior to today and will be the largest of the counts. The 10:15, I believe, are ballots that came in today.

Most races will be decided tonight, with the two ballot drops.

Only races that are very, very close may not be decided tonight.

So for most races, we will know the outcome at 8:15 PM tonight.

In actuality, there is a lot less drama on election night and often election night parties are over by 9PM (especially losing candidates).


[ Parent ]
Ok
I hope so, but what happened last year in Seattle area when it took forever to get the results in the Dale Constantine race?

[ Parent ]
You are mistaken
Do you mean Dow Constantine, King County Executive?

He won in a landslide. We knew he had won at 8:15PM on election day.

Perhaps you are talking about last year's mayor's race? On election night, there were less than 200 votes separating the two candidates and so it did take a few days to declare a winner.


[ Parent ]
WA Turnout May Be Higher Than Expected
One thing that may lead to a higher turnout for Democrats than expected is a very important (but not covered in the national media) race for Supreme Court justice (position #1).

The incumbent, Jim Johnson, is very conservative, anti-gay , pro big business and anti union. He originally got elected with tons of special interest money and he has worked for proposition king Tim Eyman. He is best known for ruling against gay marriage with the reasoning that the state has an interest in procreation and marriage exists mostly for procreation. (WTF!) That ruling was 5-4, so this race matters.

WA progressive groups have teamed up (labor, GBLT, Democrats, environmental, etc etc) to vote out Johnson and elect Stan Rumbaugh instead. I've phone-banked a few times for him myself.

Since there are only two candidates for this supposedly non-partisan race, the election will be decided today.

This could drive turnout in Democratic areas.


Ohhhhh he's the reason for this initiative back in '07
ref http://seattletimes.nwsource.c...
A group of gay-marriage supporters could begin collecting signatures today for a November ballot initiative that would limit marriage in Washington to couples willing and able to have children.

Note, this was before the "all but marriage" civil union setup in WA came into effect.


[ Parent ]
WA-Sen
Murray 45
Rossi 35
Didier 10
Akers 5
Others 5

So what would happen ...
Hypothetically, what if Rossi and Didier both finished with more votes than Murray?  Would they face each other in the general election?  I don't think it's a likely scenario, but what if Washington Dems get complacent and either don't bother voting or too many cross over and vote for Didier to try to screw over Rossi?  Yikes, it would be a nightmare!

correct
It would be an automatic GOP pickup.  Not likely because the mail-in ballots help make the election less about passion on the actual Election Day, and more likely Murray can get the base to do their duty.

[ Parent ]
Predictions
WA-Sen
Murray: 44%
Rossi: 34%
Didier: 14%
Akers: 4%
Others: 4%

WA-03
Heck: 37%
Herrera: 29%
Castillo: 28%
Hedrick: 4%
other: 2%
My gut feeling tells me Castillo wins, but in the last two weeks when I went with my gut feeling, I was waaaay off, so I decided to say Herrera wins because the Tea Party isn't as strong in WA as some places.

WY-Gov
Meyer: 29%
Simpson: 26%
Mead: 24%
Micheli: 19%
other: 2

CA-SD-15
Blakeslee: 62%
Laird: 32%
others: 4%
I know nothing about this race, so I'm just guessing.  


Mead and Legacy Republican Candidates
I think Mead finishes in the top two.  He was second in the recent Mason-Dixon poll and has significantly self funded.  The major newspapers have endorsed him.  I wonder if Simpson's last name will prove problematic.  Republicans that are the sons of Republican former members of Congress or sons of former governors do not have a good track record this cycle in running for Congress or governor.  Candidates with the surnames Hastert, Domenici, Thurmond, Campbell, and James have lost primaries.  Rand Paul is the rare candidate in this category that won his primary.  Ben Quayle looks like he needs something to right the downward spiral of his campaign for Congress.  The same can be said for Chris Cox who is the grandson of Richard Nixon.  Simpson might fall prey to this trend.  Mead's grandfather was governor of Wyoming and also represented it as a United States Senator.  His mother lost a general election gubernatorial race in the state.    

[ Parent ]
Rand Paul
He is not of the category I described.  His father is a current (not former) member of Congress but he did avoid a primary loss this year when other Republican legacy candidates experienced one.

[ Parent ]
Thats true
But I'm thinking his name rec and late Bush endorsement will help him into second. I had not known Mead was self-funding either though. I only though Micheli was a self funder. That could mess up my predictions then...

[ Parent ]
Math police
your CA SD 15 numbers add up to 98%

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Then
63 blakeslee, and 22 Laird.  

[ Parent ]
Damn
33 Laird. Having problems with this race!

[ Parent ]
well
I find it questionable that in two months, with no major scandals, Blakeslee would magically turn a ~6-7 point lead into a 30-point lead, but the math police are happy now. ;)

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
I am more optimistic
 With CA-SD-15.

I mentioned this earlier but when I called Declined to State voters, many of them were supporting Laird. Also, Laird's supporters are more active and in a small turnout election, this is important. Laird's facebook page has 1,357 likes while Blakeslee's had waaaay less. Also, Blakeslee's supporters have been sending letters to the newspapers like mad while Blakeslee's are not. There was even an article about Blakeslee's supporters not sending in letters. Also, I think Laird did well in a recent debate.

Here are my predictions

CA-SD-15
Blakeslee 47%
Laird 44%

WA-Senate

Murray 44%
Rossi 32%
Didler 14%
Other 10%


for more election analysis, visit  http://frogandturtle.blogspot....




17, CA-06,  


[ Parent ]
Im thinking
Laird voters may have seen his poor performance and not bother to vote. That can also work the other way, where Blakeslee supporters think he has it in the bag and dont vote. I also, for some reason, thought he got 59% in the first round, instead of 49%. Oh well, like a said, not following this race.  

[ Parent ]
Predictions and WA-Legislative Races
WA-Sen
Murray 45
Rossi 30
Didier 14
Akers 6
Others 5

I expect Didier/Akers to do a little bit better than expected, considering their gains in the latest SurveyUSA poll and the fact I have seen tons of Didier and Akers signs outside of Seatttle, while only two Rossi signs in the state.

WA-3
Heck 44
Herrera 26
Castillo 19
Hedrick 7
Others 4

WY-Gov (D)
Peterson 55
Gosar 42
Others 3

WY-Gov (R)
Meyer 35
Simpson 26
Mead 22
Micheli 15
Others 2

Pretty much a guess, except I've heard Mead has been hit pretty hard as a RINO, FWIW.

Some state legislative races to watch in WA (at least for progressives) would be House Position 1 in District 23 (held by Sherry Appleton), House Position 2 (held by Tami Green), and House Position 2 in District 47 (held by Pat Sullivan.) These incumbents were among the progressive dissidents in the Democratic caucus that promoted green and labor causes under the guise of the "Blue-Green Alliance" in the last House session. These are slightly Dem-leaning districts, so the incumbents are somewhat vulnerable and it is sort of a proxy for whether progressive action helps electorally as opposed to the  more moderate and conservative Democrats in the state House.

Radical or something, WA-07


And in California
Blakeslee 51
Laird 44
Others 5

The independent voters will probably migrate somewhat to the major parties.

Radical or something, WA-07


[ Parent ]
In California SD-15
 There is high turnout in the Santa Cruz area. This should be good for Laird since his supporters are very committed. They made 75,000 calls and put up 20,000 door hangers.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.c...


for more election analysis, visit  http://frogandturtle.blogspot....




17, CA-06,  


that's really good
especially since they're saying it will be higher than the first time. That's the most important thing. I think I might be happy even with a narrower-than-expected Laird loss, because then Blakeslee will either feel the heat or paint a big target on his own back.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
With 2012
 Looking like the year with Obama driving up turnout, Blakeslee will be in for a big race if he wins this one.  

for more election analysis, visit  http://frogandturtle.blogspot....




17, CA-06,  


[ Parent ]
Probably depends on
redistricting. I tried to make a map of CA senate districts with nice compact redistricting, since I assume the commission will aim for that. In my map it just so worked out that this district got pushed further north, making it 70%+ Obama. Kind of doubt that will happen, but there is hope.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]

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