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FL-Sen, FL-Gov: The Shady Billionaires Strike Back

by: Crisitunity

Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 1:42 PM EDT


Quinnipiac (7/22-27, likely primary voters, 6/2-8 in parentheses):

Rick Scott (R): 43 (44)
Bill McCollum (R): 32 (31)
Undecided: 23 (24)
(MoE: ±3.6%)

Jeff Greene (D): 33 (27)
Kendrick Meek (D): 23 (29)
Maurice Ferre (D): 4 (3)
Undecided: 35 (37)
(MoE: ±3.5%)

Who would have ever thought, even three months ago, that the once-seeming-insane vanity campaigns of ultra-wealthy GOPer Rick Scott and Dem Jeff Greene would actually take off? If anything, it shows the power of money to sway voters, especially the power of money in primary elections where name rec and interest are low and the establishment candidates are on the underwhelming side.

Things haven't changed much in the Republican gubernatorial primary; if anything, Bill McCollum seems to have arrested Rick Scott's progress, although his small turnaround is all within the margin of error. The big movement this time is in the Dem Senate primary, where Greene has shot past Kendrick Meek into first place, with Meek only getting on the air with his first ad this week. (Not to get too morbid about Meek's chances here, but I've gotta wonder how many establishment Dems both in Florida and the Beltway are secretly pleased to see Greene on track to win the primary, which will then free them up to support Charlie Crist in November with a clean conscience...)

If there's any hope to be had for Meek, it's the high number of people who might change their mind, and the preference for experience over outsider status. On the Dem side, only 43% say their mind is made up, and 54% might change, while 44% of Dems prefer someone with experience while 35% want an outsider. Compare that with McCollum's chances: on the GOP side, 55% say their mind is made up, 43% may change. 54% want an "outsider," while 28% want experience.

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Call Dr. Kervorkian
I used to be a registered FL Democrat.  Now I just shake my head. :-P  For the Dem party to let themselves get THIS irrelevant in the FL-Sen election, we might as well call Dr. Jack to put the campaigns out of their misery.

Not that I'm doing better as a registered SC Democrat.  The Dem party here seemed already moribund when I got here in 2003.


No such thing as a Registered Democrat in SC
yeah, I know, kinda anal to bring that up, but it is technically true.  No party registration in SC.  

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Meek is only just now airing ads
And whatever, if Meek uber fails, that's to Crist's benefit and will get the Dems another seat in the Senate.  He's not caucusing with the GOP, that's getting crystal clear.

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I think Meek made a big mistake
He should have been on the air months ago introducing himself. Especially while Crist and Rubio were duking it out. I mean his fundraising is decent right? So spend some of your money. To start spending this late in the game on a negative commercial which is actually pretty good kind of underscores Meeks position. Oh well both Rubio and Greene seem like assholes so I guess I'll be pulling for Crist.

Meek is the new Martha Coakley
As far as I'm concerned.  It's a shame that such a great congressman is wasted in such a horrible effort.  Meek's campaign should have started running ads as soon a Crist switched to establish himself as the Democrat.  He had the funds to do it.  Even if he wins the primary, I don't think he has any chance to win this thing.  So, I guess I'm now a Crist supporter as well for lack of a better candidate.

Conservative Democrat, Tx 27

The Catch 22
for Meek was since Florida's primary was so close to November if he blew off all his funds fighting Greene he would be broke and unable to do anything about it. If he ignored him, he risked Greene using his millions to rocket to the top of the polls. Unfortunately for Meek he was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I have nothing to back up this theory but I'm thinking Crist and Greene made some deal that Greene jumped into the Dem primary to take out Meek since Crist's only hope for victory was a Lieberman 2006 path. But it was probably bad timing for Meek and another miracle for Crist.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


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Crist, Hickenlooper, and Reid
I don't know if I have ever seen such good luck in politics as the three of them have gotten lately.

Conservative Democrat, Tx 27

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To be fair
Harry Reid had to work to get his luck by constanly running negative ads towards Sue Lowden making her look bad and Sharron Angle better. It's after that he got his luck while Crist and Hick got their luck like that.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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He made sure several candidates were eliminated
Did he personally get the original guy in NV-3 2008 to drop-out for Titus?

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You talking about Robert Daskas?
Not sure, wouldn't shock me though since Reid is the king of NV Dems.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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No, not an accurate comparison at all. Meek did the right things for the resources he had......
Florida is just ungodly expensive, and Meek is a good-but-*NOT*-great fundraiser.  He only had $4 million banked, I think, at the end of Q2.  That's not much, you need at least 3 times as much and preferably 4 times as much for November.  And this was with Meek trying to raise money, he wasn't lazy.  Some people just aren't the same money draw as others.

Meek was stumping around the state while hoarding his money as he had to do.

What Jeff Greene has done was something Meek was helpless against.

And that's the difference from Coakley, she was never helpless, she could have vaporized Brown early on and won handily.  Meek never could've done that.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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That's the thing about Meek
He's always been only a "good-but-*NOT*-great" candidate.  And in Florida, that does not cut it, especially under these circumstances.  Granted, his numbers against only Rubio were pretty damn good, so we should give him some credit.  This race has been a campaign strategists nightmare, what an unpredictable set of circumstances.

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I suspect

Meek has made a deal with Crist and is kinda tanking it.

Meek has been at 18% for a while, which I suspect is almost all black Florida voters who know he isn't going to win but don't see reason to show up and vote for any of the others.


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What will Meek do when he loses?
Not just in the primary but also the general. He's still extremely young for a politician, so he could easily run for something else. I just don't see what's open. His old congressional seat will be closed, and Democrats don't do well statewide in Florida in general.

Maybe in 2012 there will be another So. Florida district for him to run in

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)


By that I mean
possibly after redistricting  

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

[ Parent ]
I'm sure he'll get onto the lobbyist/consultant gravy train.


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Primary Alcee Hastings
No need for an impeached judge in our ranks.  It's not necessary, and I doubt he'd win, but if it worked out it'd be a nice extra.

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You bring this up in msot Meek threads
You don't like Hastings, that's fine.  But

1.  Does Meek's district even border on Hastings?  If they do it doesn't look like they share the same population, as 23 looks much more inland.

2.  Why so high on Meek.  He was handed the seat by his mother, and has never run a contested race for federal office.

3.  Hastings was impeached, but the Senate opted not to forbid him for future office.  So the impeachment doesn't disqualify him.

4.  Hastings is duly elected and apparently serves his constituents since he keeps getting elected.

Its great you want to eliminate corruption, but Hastings hasn't been charged for his time in COngress.  He was tried and acquitted by a jury, and the impeachment was overturned in federal court before being upheld by the Supreme court.  The actual trial was held in committee, and they actual didn't vote to convict.  

Its not like he murdered Jesus, and its not like sitting Senators should really be sitting in judgment of anyone with regards to bribery and corruption.  I can think of many different audiences who should be in that position before the US Senate.


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I think
23's population isn't really concentrated inland, while it may look that way on the map, most of the population is in the eastern reaches of the district.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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I wonder how Corrine Brown would've fared...
...had she gone further than just the exploratory committee. My hunch is, she would've been far more aggressive and negative a campaigner.  

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Brown would've been a joke. She WAS a joke, she raised no money....
...before dropping out.

Meek is a much more attractive candidate than Brown.

But even Meek was no A-list recruit, maybe C-list.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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I wonder if Jeff Greene is going to trash Meek in the primary
then drop out of the general, in a Xanatos Gambit.

When did he start ad-blitzing the state?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


At the end of the day...
Of the 5 major candidates in this election, Meek has the least chance to win.

As others have stated, and I agree, I don't care if its Crist or Greene if they vote the way Iw ant on issues (how magnaminous of em I know).

Its not like elections haven't been bought before, and each party has done so throughout time.


Who's the fifth?
I can only count four: Meek, Greene, Crist, and Rubio.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

He's in the Gov race


party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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LOL I'm confusing races
4th, 5th either way.  Point still holds.  There is literally no foreseeable way Meek can win.

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