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SSP Daily Digest: 7/27 (Morning Edition)

by: DavidNYC

Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 7:51 AM EDT


  • Netroots Nation: In case you missed it, click the link to watch the video of our panel on the 2010 horserace from last Friday at Netroots Nation. It was a terrific, fast-paced panel and we were asked a broad range of questions on a ton of different races. Fun stuff! Also of interest, Greenberg Quinlan Rosner conducted a straw poll of convention-goers. They included one horserace-ish question, asking participants which race was their top priority this fall. 31% picked NV-Sen, followed by PA-Sen (25%), KY-Sen (21%), MN-06 (15%), and VA-05 (7%).
  • CA-Sen: The NRSC has reserved $1.75 million in ad time for Carly Fiorina - but remember, just cuz you reserve time doesn't mean you necessarily wind up buying it, so this could just be a feint.
  • FL-Sen: Kendrick Meek is up with his first ad, attacking zillionaire schmuckface Jeff Greene for his past run for Congress in California - as a Republican - and for the windfall he reaped by betting on a housing market collapse two years ago. Adam Smith of the St. Pete Times says the buy is for $420K, which he thinks is "pretty small" for the pretty big state of Florida.
  • IL-Sen: Mark Kirk is pulling a Pat Toomey. You'll recall that the ultra-conservative Pennsylvania senate candidate somewhat surprisingly endorsed Sonia Sotomayor's nomination for the Supreme Court. Now it's Kirk's turn to try to burnish his "moderate" credentials, so he's backing Elena Kagan.
  • Meanwhile, here's some new craziness: A federal district court judge just ordered a special election to fill the remaining months of Roland Burris's term, most likely to coincide with the regular election in November. Both Kirk and Dem Alexi Giannoulias have said they want to run in the special, and they probably won't have to face a primary, since the judge seems inclined to allow nominees to be picked by party committees. Politico points out a potentially huge angle to all of this: the FEC says that since the special would constitute a new election, the candidates would be able to raise fresh money for that race - meaning that Kirk and Giannoulias could hit up maxed-out donors once more.

  • PA-Sen: But wait! Pat Toomey isn't pulling a Pat Toomey! He's coming out against Elena Kagan.
  • WV-Sen: When early word came that Rep. Shelley Moore Capito wouldn't run for Robert Byrd's seat, we said that we'd move the race to Likely D. Capito made it official last Wednesday, so consider this move retroactive to that date.
  • MI-Gov: Bummer: Detroit Mayor Dave Bing has endorsed DLC Dem Andy Dillon, whom Dillon called a "kindred spirit." Given Bing's outsider status and short tenure, I suspect he's not quite a "machine" mayor, though, who can deliver wards on the turn of a heel.
  • MN-Gov: Republican gubernatorial nominee Tom Emmer continues to burnish his moron credentials. The other day, he declared that Minnesota should pass its own GI bill to help veterans. Good idea, right? So good, in fact, that the state actually passed such a law three years ago. Even better: Emmer, a state representative, voted against the bill!
  • RI-Gov: Linc Chafee won the endorsement of the 10,000-strong Rhode Island Federation of Teachers and Health Professionals, his first big union nod. The Projo says that the teachers had been favored to go to AG Patrick Lynch, but Lynch rather unexpectedly dropped out of the race not long ago, and evidently Dem Treasurer Frank Caprio didn't suit them.
  • SC-Gov: Nikki Haley, a member of the Strength Through Crippling Austerity wing of the Republican Party, is trying to soften (i.e., flip-flop) some of her less business-friendly stances. The AP explains her shifts on two issues: the infamous anti-tax pledge sponsored by Americans for Tax Reform, and the bailout.
  • IL-17: Can an internal poll sometimes seem just too good? That's how I feel about this survey by Magellan Strategies for GOPer Bobby Schilling, which has him up 45-32 over Dem Rep. Phil Hare. YMMV.
  • NY-13: John McCain is endorsing former FBI agent Mike Grimm in the GOP primary. Grimm has faced hostility from the Republican establishment here, which has backed Michael Allegretti (whom Maggie Haberman delightfully refers to with the epithet "Bayside fuel heir"). Apparently, McCain (who has a race of his own to worry about) will both fundraise and campaign for Grimm, though no word yet on when. As for why he's getting involved, Haberman says it's because of his relationship with Rudy Giuliani and Guy Molinari, both of whom are supporting Grimm.
  • NY-15: Charlie Rangel's autobiography is titled "And I Haven't Had a Bad Day Since," referring to his service in the Korean War. Well, it sure seems like he's had more than a few bad days lately, with the latest batch coming in the last week. The House Ethics Committee declared on Thursday that Rangel had indeed committed transgressions and created a new panel to investigate further. In response, Indiana senate candidate Brad Ellsworth announced he would give to charity all the money he's received from Rangel (some $12K). Rep. Betty Sutton (OH-13) went one further, calling on Rangel to resign. For the record, Rangel disagrees with me, saying: "I'm not in a foxhole, I'm not surrounded by a million Chinese communists coming after me. Life is good. I'm 80 years old. I'm on my way to a parade."
  • OK-05: SoonerPoll.com has a survey out of the 5th CD Republican field, finding former state Rep. Kevin Calvey increasing his lead from 20 to 28 since the last test in March. Some Dude James Lankford is in second with 20, followed by 15 for state Rep. Mike Thompson, 6 for state Rep. Shane Jett, and a bunch of other Some Dudes bringing up the rear.
  • PA-15: This is what we call a good get: Bill Clinton will be coming to Salisbury Township for a fundraiser for John Callahan on August 10th. As is so often the case with the Big Dog, this is payback for Callahan's support of Hillary Clinton's presidential bid in 2008.
  • TN-09: Willie Herenton, asshole until the end:
  • Willie W. Herenton, the former mayor, is accusing Steve Cohen, the white two-term United States representative, of "trying to act black." He tells voters in this majority-black city that they "need to come off that Cohen plantation and get on the Herenton freedom train."

  • WI-03: State Sen. Dan Kapanke has an internal out from Public Opinion Strategies (memo here) which shows Dem Rep. Ron Kind up just 44-38.
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    IL-Sen
    I would guess that is better for Alexi since he has struggled to raise big bucks after his fast start. He isn't ever likely to match Kirk but diminishing returns will kick in somewhere down the line.

    If they are allowed
    To double their fundraising totals, it benefits Kirk more. This quarter, Kirk raised 1.4 million more than Alexi. If you double their totals, Kirk would have raised 2.8 million more than alexi.  

    [ Parent ]
    As I said diminishing returns
    You can only runs so many ads. Alexi just needs to be heard. He can't do that at the moment.

    [ Parent ]
    WI-3
    I'm not surprised that it is so close, and if it really is a huge GOP wave, Kapanke would definitely take that seat--his State Senate district is actually more Democratic than WI-3 as a whole, so his main challenge will be introducing himself to Eau Claire and the SW Wisconsin rural areas.  He is very well liked in the area despite his very strong social conservatism.  He is a tad more moderate on fiscal issues, at least as far as Wisconsin Republicans go these days.  

    The bright side to him winning would be that if La Crosse voters get buyers remorse on the GOP majorities, his Senate seat could very well tip the balance of the State Senate--if the GOP were to pick up 2 seats to go to a 17-16 majority with Kapanke included (a likely scenario), his resignation would bring it down to 16-16 and then there would be a special election that would essentially decide control of the whole State Senate.  


    Only the poll is POS
    So in reality Kind has a double-digit lead. Still worth watching mind.

    [ Parent ]
    Republican internals with Democratic leads
    are my new favorite thing.  Special thanks to:

    Tipton (CO-03)
    Frazier (CO-07)
    Debicella (CT-04)
    Labrador (ID-01)
    Young (IN-09)
    Lally (KY-03)
    Barr (KY-06)
    Welday (MI-09)
    Miller (NC-11)
    Cornilles (OR-01)
    Bailey (TN-04)
    Canseco (TX-23)
    Koster (WA-02)
    Kanapke (WI-03)
    Maynard (WV-03)

    for releasing internal polls showing Democrats ahead.  I reflexively assume all of these Dems will win.  Probably really dumb to do that, but you have to cling to anything in this environment.

    34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


    [ Parent ]
    All but Minnick, Hill, and Himes
    were thought safe and unassailable at the beginning of this cycle. If Democrats have to be worried about guys like Wu, Perlmutter, Yarmuth, Larsen, and Rahall on election night, we are looking at 50-60 seat GOP wave.

    That Republicans are running close in these districts suggests that the DCCC will have to spread its resources ever thinner playing defense than it would like.

    20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


    [ Parent ]
    So far
    the DCCC is only playing in a handful of these (ID-01, IN-09, KY-06, and TX-23).  These polling results range from D+1 to D+12.  Since the average partisan lean of a partisan poll is 5% per 538.com (I think), I'll call them D+6 to D+17 currently (I'd feel the same way about Dem internals).  Of course, many of these challengers may have upside to do better by election day.  Not sure any of these races is currently running all that close.

    Dude, be a humanitarian.  Give me something to cling to until election day.  My mentally eliminating these 15 seats from takeover status still leaves 85 Dem seats in play according to the SSP Chart.
     

    34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


    [ Parent ]
    Haha
    Sorry, I'll try to be a humanitarian! This is exactly how I've felt for the better part of the last 4 years if it makes you feel any better.

    20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

    [ Parent ]
    I really doubt they are going to have to play defense those places
    There is nothing to indicate right now the the GOP is going to grab seats like this or even run that close in them. If a Republican internal shows a Democrat with any sort of lead, it seems to me that the Democrat wouldn't have any problems at all.  

    24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

    [ Parent ]
    Oh please
    You do know the difference between campaign internals and non-partisan polls don't you? Particularly when their sole intention is to make races thought safe look uber-competitive when they probably aren't. And especially when the vast majority of them are by the ubiquitous Public Opinion Strategies who Nate rates as among the worst of all pollsters. Spiderdem is correct - if these Dems still have leads in these Republican polls then suffice it to say they are likely to be fine in November.  

    [ Parent ]
    Maybe the lesson is that Dems are doing better than we thought, then
    Because the race between Kapanke and Kind SHOULD be within 6 points or even closer, based on what I know about Kapanke and Kind.  So if a GOP internal poll is still showing Kind 6 points ahead, maybe that also has some implications nationwide, or at least on the two very important State Senate races within Kind's district.  

    [ Parent ]
    I don't think
    We can look at any one race and look at it as a barometer for the rest of country and the state of the Democratic party. Indeed, we are likely to see some Dems lose who nobody thought possible and some win who everybody thought was toast.

    [ Parent ]
    I agree with this, and probably believe in it more strongly than you
    Even with the election being very federal and national in scope, when the races actually shake out, I think it may turn out to be more local in focus than the average election.

    Im going to make two charts for election night.  One will follow the national narrative and be an ass-kicking of the Democrats.  The other is going to be shit hitting the fan for everyone, including the GOP.


    [ Parent ]
    Tipton and Frazier?
    When did they release polls? How bad were they?  

    [ Parent ]
    Tipton
    was a Tarrance Group poll from March showing him down 2.

    Frazier was a Magellan poll from April showing him down 3.

    34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


    [ Parent ]
    Snore, Safe Dem
    Move along kids, nothing to see here.

    [ Parent ]
    This is rich
    Coming from New Hampshire Republicans of all people.

    http://www.unionleader.com/art...


    RI-Gov
    Not surprising, given Caprio's moderate reputation; many would argue Chafee is the most liberal candidate in the race. Similarly, in RI-01, though Cicilline is the frontrunner I don't see organized labor coalescing behind him, he's had quite a few fights with them to the point where Hillary Clinton asked Cicilline, a supporter of hers, not to appear at her Rhode Island rally because Providence firefighters threatened to protest.

    21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
    please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


    Anyone see a similarity between NV-Sen and the 1994 VA Senate Race?
    In 1994, Chuck Robb was an unpopular incumbent in a bad year.  Some in VA joked that any registered voter in VA could run against Robb and win.  Then Ollie North of all people wins the GOP primary, outspends Robb 4-1, and loses by a 3 point spread.

    Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
    So little time, so much to know!


    So, do you think this will play out similarly?
    Where an unpopular incumbent wins against an even worse alternative?  Also, North was a monster fundraiser and raised 20.1 million dollars in a single year.

    Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
    So little time, so much to know!


    [ Parent ]
    Indeed
    However, Reid will be the one outspending his opponent methinks.

    [ Parent ]
    Yup, in my mind I liken this to Robb-North all the time, 'cept for flipped money edge. (nm)
    nm

    43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

    [ Parent ]
    Great minds think alike, obviously
    One other minor difference - I think there was a third party candidate who drew substantial votes away from North in the Virginia race (although Nevada has None of the Above, which could draw votes away as well).

    Anyway, I always think of the two races as similar (although I honestly think North is smarter than Angle)  


    [ Parent ]
    But you forget the scary part about that race.
    It had a second Republican.  And not a conservative one as that.  Marshall Coleman running a strong third party bid drawing votes away from the even more conservative Ollie North and got support from Senator John Warner and Nancy Reagan as well.

    Without Marshall Coleman who took over 12% of the vote Chuck Robb probably falls despite Ollie North's baggage.

    NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


    [ Parent ]
    CO-Sen
    Anything John Kerry can do Andrew Romanoff can go one better!

    http://www.denverpost.com/elec...


    *facepalm* Even if he planned to sell the house anyway, it makes him look desperate.
    Bennet must be a happy man.

    Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
    So little time, so much to know!


    [ Parent ]
    It worked for Kerry
    Bennet leads in the polls and probably wins but I'm not counting out a shock just yet. Sestak closed fast remember, albeit in very different circumstances.

    [ Parent ]
    TN-9
    Willie Herenton is a strong contender for Tennessee Douchebag of the Year.  He is not a contender for anything else hopefully.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

    'Herenton Freedom Train'?
    Freedom Train to what? The freedom to act like a douche?

    [ Parent ]
    two words
    Lane Kiffin.

    41, Ind, CA-05

    [ Parent ]
    Don't know if this has been posted
    SurveyUSA shows Barela up 6 (51-45) on Heinrich in NM-1:

    http://www.kob.com/article/sto...

    Shows Barela leading among all age groups and only behind by about 3 among women, which is strange. Article also mentions that Barela has done very little campaigning, so it could just be that people strongly dislike Heinrich.

    Heinrich's campaign counters with a GQR internal showing him up 12, 53-41.


    Ah, never mind
    I see it in yesterday's. My bad

    [ Parent ]
    Cut the difference
    Lets cut the difference and say they are tied.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

    [ Parent ]
    Let's just stop all polling
    And say every race is tied.

    Because that's the sense I'm getting at this point.  

    23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)


    [ Parent ]
    I'm with you.
    It wasn't always like this.  What is it about this cycle that's got pollsters all over the map?  You have Rasmussen going hyper-partisan.  You've got Strategic Vision and Research 2000 potentially committing fraud.  SUSA's turnout model is apocalyptic, but at least I don't question their motives.  Mason-Dixon and PPP are producing believable, internally consistent results, but who the fuck knows if they're right either?  AAAAGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!  There, I feel better.

    34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

    [ Parent ]
    I was cynical about polling before this cycle
    I was very cynical about polling before this cycle, but it has reached new heights.

    I suspect why the polling is all over the place is that the political situation is so fluid at the moment.  We live in a very politically explosive environment when people are not thinking on either side, but are acting very irrationally.  It is hard to equate such antics in any model.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


    [ Parent ]
    Thank you
    We can re-start polling again mid-september if need be, but seriously these polls need to stop.

    [ Parent ]
    I think it's because for two reasons
    We are mainly looking at swing districts where the 40-40-20 break-down of voters fits closely and nd then it is July, people dont know who they are voting for.  So we are just seeing the two 40's do their thing and break Dem and GOP like they always do with a smattering of the 20% who decide elections having decided already.

    [ Parent ]
    WV-01
    Has any polling, internal or external, come out for this district yet? Now that Manchin's on the ballot, perhaps he'll help candidates like Oliverio rally Dem support.

    And Binnie is ahead of Hodes by 5%
    Looks like what GOPVoter said yesterday was true, that Ayotte is getting beat up badly in the primary by Binnie's ads.

    [ Parent ]
    What is Binnie hitting her on?
    I thought Binnie was a liberal Republican, so he can't be hitting her from the right.

    [ Parent ]
    I believe he's hitting her on some things that occured during her state AG tenure
    Something to do with a ponzi scheme.

    24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

    [ Parent ]
    Evidence is Palin endorsement backfire
    Helps Ayotte win the primary but she has tanked with moderates.

    [ Parent ]
    I endorse Palin
    making more endorsements. Come on, Sarah - help point out who the real crazies are!

    [ Parent ]
    They are starting to get cocky
    We see that every day from our GOP friends posting here at SSP. I suggest Republicans in general take note of what happened in 1998 before they get too excited.

    [ Parent ]
    Starting?
    They've been sky high all of 2010 and then some.  I just hope the macroenvironment can turn a little and we will see some long faces on the Republican side, having to settle for like 20 House seats and 2 Senate seats.

    34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

    [ Parent ]
    Conspiracy raises a good point...
    It's still too early to predict how all this will go in November.  

    [ Parent ]
    I love how Redstate is pretty much predicting Obama to lose big time in 2012
    Because 2010 will be such a disaster.  Im very confident in him getting re-elected, especially with the field the GOP has.  When Obama is politically engaged, he's on message and very convincing.

    [ Parent ]
    And nothing to do with Binnie
    "Numbers we'll release tomorrow on the Republican primary show that the Palin endorsement has certainly helped Ayotte on that front."

    [ Parent ]
    WOW- Nice
    Obama's approvals are much better than I thought they would be. It is clear that Sarah Palins endorsement is hurting her as well.

    The Palin endorsement may well be playing a role in this. 51% of voters in the state say they're less likely to back a Palin endorsed candidate to only 26% who say that support would make them more inclined to vote for someone. Among moderates that widens to 65% who say a Palin endorsement would turn them off to 14% who it would make more supportive.


    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

    [ Parent ]
    In April
    PPP showed her up 7, so why does their memo spin this as bad for Hodes?

    21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
    please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


    [ Parent ]
    What's funny is the memo spin directly contradicts the Twitter spin earlier......
    The earlier Twitter spin was "good poll for Hodes," and then the memo says "bad poll for Hodes."

    I, too, thought it was odd.

    43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


    [ Parent ]
    Very strange crosstabs deeply contradict the 2008 exit poll in conflcting ways......
    PPP has a turnout model of 35D-29R-36I.  New Hampshire never has a Democratic advantage like that in a real election!  The 2008 exit poll gave Dems only a 29-27 edge, with 45% indies!  And yet, PPP's turnout model has Obama having won the sample 48-45 over McCain, compared to 54-45 in the 2008 election.  So the sample is more Democratic but voted much less for Obama than the 2008 NH electorate?  That's really weird.

    Compounding the weirdness is the perfectly reasonable ideological breakdown of 30C-23L-47I, compared to the 2008 exit poll breakdown of 28C-26L-46I.  So at least PPP, very reasonably, shows a marginally more conservative and less liberal electorate now than in 2008.

    I don't know what to make of this poll's turnout model overall.  I know PPP uses a soft likely voter screen and the party ID is the only thing that doesn't ring true, so I want to believe it.  But then I don't know why Obama's job approval would have improved in NH recently, as his numbers in this poll are better than I'd expect.

    It's all just weird.

    But I'll take it.

    43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


    [ Parent ]
    PPP
    PPP's samples have been odd as of late.  This is a further example of it.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

    [ Parent ]
    Ah, lets face it...
    All polling samples have been odd as of late. Seriously, I can't think of the last time someone said "this was a really good polling model" and everyone agreed.  

    [ Parent ]
    Well, I think
    We're probably just the first ones to sit here as a community and dissect polls.  Prognosticators and political scientists obviously do this, too, but not as a collective group of 50 people who chat about it on a daily basis.

    And why this cycle's polls seem so off is that in 2008, we didnt have the commenters here regularly going through the internals.  That's my hypothesis anyway, Id rather be wrong because this makes internals pretty useless.


    [ Parent ]
    Odd indeed
    Having said that the Obama margin is down to right where I would expect it to be on average - 6 points. I'm inclined just to trust the toplines of these things and stop worrying so much about the crosstabs.

    [ Parent ]
    Variance happens in statistics
    A 95% confidence level means that one of 20 polls are out of whack.

    The confidence level is --different-- from the MoE. (However, they're inversely related.)

    PPP asked 20 questions. So given a 95% confidence level, on average, the numbers coming out of one of the questions --should-- be screwy. In fact, if screwy numbers don't happen to 1:20 questions (over a large number of polls), the pollster's methodology should be questioned.

    When going into crosstabs, the confidence level goes way down -- or alternatively, the margin of error within the crosstab question goes way up. Bottom line, the number of crosstabs that are screwy in any poll should be more than 1:20.

    (I don't remember enough of my stats to know how much more.)

    As long as it all averages out for the top-line number, for 19 out of every 20 polls (over a large number of polls), it's OK.


    [ Parent ]
    But my observations are NOT about the crosstabs......
    I'm looking at the composition of the entire sample, not subsamples.  So the margin of error is the topline error.

    The entire sample is less favorable toward Obama than the turnout model suggests.  And the turnout model itself is more favorable toward Democrats than any actually appears in any statewide New Hampshire election.  Those are contradictions within the topline, as far as I can tell.

    43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


    [ Parent ]
    First, I was making a general observation
    based on the overall mistaken perceptions w/r/t polls and statistics. So it was necessary to discuss the general statistical implications of cross-tabs.

    Second, you've pointed out two variances w/r/t the 20 questions posed by this PPP poll.

    While variances w/r/t 1:20 questions would be average, variances w/r/t 2:20 questions is not outside the norm. And if the variances "average out" so to speak,

    (i.e., less favorable model towards President Obama balanced by a more favorable model towards Ds in general)

    then the topline is fine (within the given statistical MoE).  


    [ Parent ]
    Addition
    in a gross sense, it's sort of like "an unexpected heads" balancing out "an unexpected tails".

    Over very large samples, variances do always cancel out (assuming a good model, which is always important to check).

    Over smaller samples, such as 20 questions asked of a whole in a single poll, variances only "often" cancel out, thus the 95% confidence level given for standard polls.

    To rephrase, the PPP poll, is like 20 polls in 1 -- as 20 questions were asked of the whole. It is normal (on average) for the answer to one question out of 20 to be screwed up. It is normal (a bit less often) for the answer to two questions out of 20 to be screwed up.


    [ Parent ]
    If there are statisticians who are reading this
    I'd appreciate a logic/fact check. Even though I was trained as an engineer, I hate statistics.


    [ Parent ]
    correlated questions
    A typical poll isn't really 20 polls in one, because they re-use the same sample.  If they happen to get 5 jokes rolling dice, then the answers will be uncorrelated, but if they happen to get too many annoyed 67-year-old males, that will be true on all 20 questions.  "Are you a Democrat" and "Did you vote for Obama" should be pretty highly correlated.

    [ Parent ]
    The Obama vs McCain numbers are more objective
    though anything odd is reason for concern.

    Though not as bad as PPPs two outliers, this is a Mccain-heavy sample with 12% Obama voter no-shows.  The Obama no-shows will be some variable percentage in every state, but 12% is WAY too high for a state with almost no African American voters.

    Cut that down to 4%, and Hodes leads Ayotte by about a point and is a couple points behind Binnie.

    Toss up.... (as most everyone assumed the moment Gregg passed).


    [ Parent ]
    This might just work
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-...

    At least in terms of cutting losses to a minimum. Especially when you consider this from Pew...

    http://congressionalconnection...



    Great links
    The second one is why Im leaning more towards an all around ass-kicking of incumbents; people are pissed at the Democrats for not creating millions of jobs in two years, but they also know who got us into this mess.  And there being no way policy platforms for the GOP besides 'backward' and "no" doesn't give them anything to sell themselves on to the electorate.  (Another gift from Michael Steele and the tea-baggers)

    And the electorate is pissed, but they aren't stupid.  They'll watch the individual campaigns and evaluate who will be best for the district.  Some cases they'll go with the "Obama is a communist" candidate and others, they'll go with the one who actually knows what they are talking about and who has a platform and an agenda as a candidate.

    Being loud and angry doesn't win elections, but it sure did help the GOP make us look like incompetent fools for awhile there on HRC.


    [ Parent ]
    Republicans are going to have to work hard
    to compete with Ed Rendell for biggest asshole of the day.  Is there anything that the President can still do without being attacked for it?  I can't think of any...

    http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

    34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


    Probably hurts his massive ego
    Because they didn't ask him.

    [ Parent ]
    "Governor X" should keep his mouth shut


    [ Parent ]
    Legit argument, but from Rendell?
    This is about as bizarre as it gets.  Rendell is constantly on sports shows in Philadelphia talking about his beloved Eagles.  Some of the shows he has went on are definitely low brow to say the least.

    I would like more elected officials doing more shows regardless of how bizarre they may be.  

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


    [ Parent ]
    I agree to a point
    I have no idea what Obama is doing on the view.  People bitched a blue storm about hos vacation.  Now the View.  They may not be valid complaints, but they won't be hard to use to paint him in a certain negative light.

    I do think Rendell can't be faulted for the sports shows he does.  He said that he'd still do them if elected and he has.  And its usually only on Sunday nights anyways.

    I still think Rendell would get re-elected this year if he ran again.  Then again if Tom RIdge had kept running he'd still be governor.  PA should really institute a monarchy of some sort.


    [ Parent ]
    lol
    I really could care less what Rendell does or does not do.  When he was elected, we knew what we were getting in terms of positives and negatives.

    Pennsylvania should not even have a general election for Governor.  We should just let each party take turns every eight years and whomever wins the respective primary is crowned Governor for 8 years.  Corbett will win this year and win again in 2014.  Casey will then win in 2018 and 2022.  Then a Republican will win in 2026 and the cycle will continue the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania ceases to exist.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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    2014 could be the end of the cycle
    Casey really always wanted to be governor.  He could put an end to the that cycle if he ran in 2014 and the environment were neutral.  The Casey name and legacy could compete with incumbent Corbett.

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    Casey
    Casey clearly wants to be Governor and does not like being a Senator.  I suspect he waits until 2018 just because he will want an easier race and it will be the end of the Senate term if he runs for reelection.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

    [ Parent ]
    Lucky Patrick Murphy


    [ Parent ]
    Clinton fundraising
    Bill Clinton's fundraising help is appropriate even if people hadn't endorsed HRC.

    Think about it, if you were in a heavily minority district or in a very liberal distrct, Obama/Biden is the better choice. (I dont think much of Biden in these circles but he is the VP).

    In rural areas, predominantly white areas, heavily union areas, etc, Bill Clinton is the better choice, especially at the moment.  Too bad Hillary can't campaign in her current job, that would be even better in these same districts.

    Its unique that both sides can fundraise for very different constituencies within the same party.

    The Democratic party sometimes acts crazy and eats its own.  But right now we're definitely a big tent party.


    BOXER LEADS BY 9!!!!!!!
    Boxer-49
    Demon Sheep Lady-40

    Previously they had Boxer leading by just three. Nice.  

    http://www.publicpolicypolling...

    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  


    Also
    people like Boxers hair better by a 19 to 14 margin. Lol.  

    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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    Waht do the other 67% think of their hairstyles
    C'mon man, you can't just give us partial poll results.

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    LOL!! I thought you were joking
        but there really was a question about their hair in that survey. I liked Boxer's hair better before she went with the blonde highlights, but I guess since she moved from NorCal to SoCal she wanted teh beach babe look. Whatever, she is still a far better Senator than Carly FAILorina could ever hope to be...

    52, male, disgruntled Democrat, CA-28

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    Note to the NRSC/NRCC/RGA/RNC
    Nationalize the elections in California. I dare ya!

    Hope remains for Obama in California; 54% of California voters approve of the President. 52% of voters also support President Obama's health care plan. This may be one of the few states where Obama continues to find support.


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    LOL
    Also they should make sure and talk about how Boxer is pro-choice. That is really going to KILL her with the California electorate as they are soooo opposed to a woman's right to choose.  

    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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    Man the RGA and NRSC were smart to get money bags in the race
    They'd never stand a chance otherwise and I cant believe the NRSC is spending a cent here.

    [ Parent ]
    I'm wondering
    Is that an outlier or has the race moved that much in the 3 weeks since the Field and SUSA polls?  

    [ Parent ]
    Didnt rasmussen also have boxer expanding her lead?


    20, male, independent, WI-07.

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    Actually Rasmussen strangely has had bigger Boxer leads for MONTHS......
    Ras had Boxer up 49-42 at the same time Field had Boxer by a point and SUSA had Fiorina up 2.  And Rasmussen's preceding poll also had Boxer up by a similarly big margin.

    So PPP is now showing what Rasmussen already has been showing.

    I still discount Rasmussen's previous polls and am curious what they'd show a 3rd time.  Of course I want to see another Field Poll, but that's pricey and the state media organizations won't pay for another one for quite awhile I imagine, I bet not till September.

    43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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    Every 3 months
    For Field. Maybe they go more often closer towards the election. SUSA will probably be hired again soon, with all of the news stations in CA.  

    [ Parent ]
    Field had those unbelievable favorables for Whitman
    Fiorina here is 28%, and she is less unpopular than Whitman (or at the very least, the hatred for Whitman is far, far more intense than for Fiorina).

    Field's poll was an outlier on that one point, at least, for sure.  


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    For once maybe a 1 to 2 point Obama-favorable sample
    Only a 4% Obama no show rate... That could be right but 6% might be more reasonable for California.

    In any case, race was is and will be a shade less than Safe Dem.

    Key point, Boxer is not loved but she has 44% favorables, after an eternity in CA politics.  that number ain't changing meaningfully.

    Fiorina is at 28%.  No way can she make up ground if on the main point of Boxer's weakness, likeability, she rates terribly worse herself.

    Game may not be over here, but very close.


    [ Parent ]
    Did you say "YMMV"?
    I see someone else has adopted TV Tropes terminology! :D

    party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


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