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SC-Gov: Dems Within Single Digits

by: James L.

Wed May 26, 2010 at 2:27 PM EDT


Well, for the most part, that is.

Public Policy Polling (5/22-23, South Carolina voters):

Jim Rex (D): 36
Gresham Barrett (R): 38
Undecided: 25

Vincent Sheheen (D): 33
Gresham Barrett (R): 43
Undecided: 25

Jim Rex (D): 40
Andre Bauer (R): 38
Undecided: 22

Vincent Sheheen (D): 38
Andre Bauer (R): 38
Undecided: 23

Jim Rex (D): 36
Nikki Haley (R): 45
Undecided: 19

Vincent Sheheen (D): 34
Nikki Haley (R): 44
Undecided: 22

Jim Rex (D): 36
Henry McMaster (R): 42
Undecided: 22

Vincent Sheheen (D): 36
Henry McMaster (R): 43
Undecided: 21
(MoE: ±2.8%)

Of course, the Fort McHenry-sized red flag here is that this poll was taken before the maybe-dubious revelations that state Rep. Nikki Haley, the Republican front-runner, was involved in an "inappropriate physical relationship" with an ex-Sanford aide. Who knows what kind of havoc that's wreaking on this race, but hopefully we'll see some kind of follow up in advance of the state's June 8th primary. (Though keep in mind that South Carolina is a runoff state.)

More, from Jensen:

The Democratic candidates may have some room to grow. Right now neither of them is as well known as any of the Republican contenders. 67% of voters don't know enough about Sheheen to have formed an opinion and despite a term in statewide office 62% are ambivalent toward Rex as well. The eventual nominee's name recognition will obviously pick up by the fall and that could provide an opportunity to pick up more support.

Still, Barrett and McMaster aren't that all well-known, either. Other than Haley, the best bet for Dems has got to be frat boy Lt. Governor Andre Bauer, whose reputation is notoriously bad in insider circles, and who nearly lost his race in 2006.

Meanwhile, here's what the primaries looked like over the weekend:

Vincent Sheheen (D): 36
Jim Rex (D): 30
Robert Ford (D): 11
Undecided: 23
(MoE: ±4.8%)

Nikki Haley (R): 39
Henry McMaster (R): 18
Gresham Barrett (R): 16
Andre Bauer (R): 13
Undecided: 14
(MoE: ±3.9%)

It's interesting to see Sheeheen, a state senator, perform so well against the only statewide elected Democrat in the race, state School Superintendent Jim Rex. As for the Republican primary... well, who knows.

James L. :: SC-Gov: Dems Within Single Digits
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Andre Bauer is a Republican
He is (R) not (D).

You must now bathe in holy water.


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Do you mean Fort McHenry, or Forth Sumter?
One is Maryland, the other is South Carolina.

Male, 23, DC-At Large

Not geography, per se
But only in the sense of being a giant-assed flag.

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Aha
Should have put two and two together... I've seen the Fort McHenry flag about a thousand times at the Smithsonian.

Male, 23, DC-At Large

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A winnable race in the birthplace of the confederacy
Well, bless their hearts! Glad to see that the legacy of Jim Hodges means the D party is still alive in SC. This bit from the Jim Rex campaign site provides a hint about Sheheen
Stokes says the Rex campaign knew from the start that big Democratic donors in the legal community would shovel their cash into the coffers of state Sen. Vincent Sheheen, a Kershaw County litigator,

"The State" has endorsed Sheheen in glowing terms...

In fact, while it would be difficult in any state but this one to consider either candidate liberal, Mr. Sheheen is the more centrist of the two - and that's important not just as a general election calculation but also because our nation and our state are at risk of being torn apart by the extremes; we dare not reject any opportunity to nominate good candidates who are closer to the political center.

So I guess that means Rex is the (slightly) more progressive of the two.


Frat boy Andre Bauer?
A frat boy? Bauer? Um...probably not in the way you're thinking of...

A friend of mine from Georgia who's vaguely interested in politics told me he wanted Bauer to win the nomination because he seemed like the most moderate candidate. And, as is often the case, a Barney Frank quote seemed the perfect response:

"Sure, he's a moderate, in the sense that I marched in the moderate pride parade last summer and went to a moderate bar."

Missed the reference? Here:  http://rawstory.com/news/2005/...

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


What a collection of nutjobs
I looked at the websites of the four leading Republicans, and what a bunch of loons!  This state has seen more than its share of absolute Republican asshats.

Attorney General Henry McMaster talks about South Carolina's sovereignty being under attack and how me was the first to file suit regarding health care -- apparently he thinks he's John C. Calhoun nullifying tariffs in the 1830s.

Andre Bauer has a video from Mike Huckabee saying he was "tea party before there was a tea party.

Gresham Barrett's entire website is structured around illegal immigration, and his proposal for an Arizona style law.

And Nikki Haley is endorsed by Mama Moose -- 'nuf said there.


Yup,
Andre Bauer has been teabagging a long time. Sorry, I couldn't help myself there.

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Yep, they are pretty out there...
McMaster has no 'baggage' in the traditional sense, but he has been around a long time, he ran against Fritz Hollings in '86. He ran for Lt Gov. in the '90's and lost. He has served as AG since 2002. He is the most 'establishment' candidate, and that is not a great thing in this cycle. He has gotten some deserved kudos for being non-partisan as AG. But that too, isn't popular this cycle.  He might end up being the last man standing though.

Bauer has a long string of snafus, but he should not be underestimated.  He really hustles on the campaign trail. He spent over 24 consecutive hours on his announcement tour.  Still, I think this is the year his problems finally catch up with him.  After Sanford, SC residents are tired of embarrassments.

Barrett is not impressing anybody, and he is getting colatteral damage from the Haley scandal. He has the advantage of being from the populus Upstate, but the upstate is very conservative and his TARP vote is killing him here.      

Haley has had an impressive turn-around thanks to RedState and Sarah Palin.  After being stuck in 4th place for months, she moved into a 20 point lead.  But now all bets are off. Stay tuned and keep the popcorn popping.      


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Hummm...
Hadn't remembered seeing a general election poll for SC gov recently.  Seems competitive but the numbers do seem to be all over the place, Barrett beats Rex by 2 but Sheheen by 10 and Haley beats Rex by 9 but tied with Sheheen. What gives? More of regional rather then partisan strength of a particular candidate maybe? Both Dems are running equally strong against Bauer and McMaster.

Haley 'scandal' is HUGE here
I have never seen anything like this Haley-Folks scandal, and I have lived in SC 46 years. The blogger is saying Barrett was pushing him to expose the scandal.

Opinions are all over the map on who is lying and Haley is getting some sympathy vote, but that could change depending on what comes out next.

Sheheen is the favorite to win the D nod, and I would not consider him any more or less conservative/progressive than Rex. Rex has been incapable of raising decent funds, and has spent what little he has raised. On what is anyone's guess, I certainly haven't seen it on mailings or ads.

Sheheen has been a 'waiting in the wings' candidate for statewide office almost since the day he won his senate seat.  His uncle use to be House Speaker, BTW.

Nearly all of the D endorsements of note have gone to Sheheen.  I put his chances of being the D nomineee at 75%. Assuming he does, I put his chances of winning at 45% or better.  Higher than that, if Bauer or a badly burned   Haley wins.  I hear that many promenient GOPers are quietly supporting him too.

BTW, there is only one D statewide race of note (governor), so many D's and Indies will vote in the GOP primary. Myself included.  There is no party registration here.      


A Mark Sanford protege
hilarious. A shame Rex hasn't run a better campaigner. Where is Sheheen from? Some conservative part of the state where Democrats need to do well? Does he have money? The only thing I think kept Democrats from beating Sanford last time around in 06.

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Sheheen is from Camden (Kershaw County)
Kershaw is a GOP stronghold, but the Sheheen name is gold there. Neither he nor his uncle ever had a problem winning. They go back to the solid-south days when that meant DEMOCRAT, not REPUBLICAN. Probably the most promenient family there.

He would definitely take a county out of the GOP column, at least for this race.  It is a small county though, 50,000 or so.

He has sufficient funds for where the race is now.  I expect a post-primary influx, and a weak GOP candidate would add more money. DGA might have to put in some coin too, eventually, but the GOPErs have not been raising much money this cycle, compared to last.

Sanford's opponent in 2006 won the primary and then totally disappeared for months.  Totally inexcusable and ruined any chances he had to win. He got 45% as I recall.    

I have been hearing some good things about the GOP candidate for Lt. Gov., Ashley Cooper.  He is from Charleston, which in itself is great, because that is THE swing area.  

Bottomline, the stars appear to be aligning for a strong shot at the Governorship.    


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Which part of the state do you live in?
And who are you planning on voting for for various positions in the Republican primaries?

Do you have any news on how seriously Congressman Inglis is threatened? If I were living in the Greenville area, I would probably cross over for the purpose of voting for him in the primary, because although he votes pretty hard-right, from his position as a Republican in a district that includes Bob Jones University, he has shown integrity and courage that I respect. I suspect my Peace Movement friend who lives in his district doesn't feel the same way. :-)

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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I live in Greenville City and County
I will be voting for Inglis, for exactly the reasons you gave. You should try to convince your friend to do the same.

Inglis is getting seriously threatened. He needs to win outright on June 8th, because a runoff victory would be unlikely,IMO. Trey Gowdy is his principal threat.

Regional loyalty could come into play if there is a runoff, which could help Inglis, since Greenville is bigger than Gowdy's Spartanburg home county. However, I can easily see the 'crazies' dropping the local boy loyalty, to 'send a message'.    

BTW, if your friend votes in the D primary on June 8th, he CANNOT vote in the GOP runoff.  


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Paul Corden
Writing from Simpsonville.

What's up with Paul Corden?  He ran against Inglis last time, but had hardly any effect.  This year, he was the only Dem who registered for the race.  So:  1) How come no one else registered?  2) What makes Corden think he can do better this time?  As Republican leaning as this region is, I'd still want to see the Dem party try.


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In 2006, the Dems had a 'decent' alternative ..
... I voted for him, can't remember his name.  I voted for Inglis in 2008, I think.  This district is the toughest for a D to win, so the state party concentrates on the 1st or 2nd, and will until they win one or both of those.  

The D always waits until after the primary anyway, to make any waves.    


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Sarah Palin is becoming a GOP kingmaker
Say what you will about the woman (she's not my favorite by any extent), but she is becoming very powerful on the endorsement scene. First Perry, then Emmer, now Fiorina and Haley--everyone Palin has campaigned for has either already won their nomination or has seen a significant jump in their primary numbers. I wonder what Palin will do as the general election approaches, and if her support will come back to sting anyone.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

While Palin is gaffe-prone
I highly respect her political skills, in a Sun-Tzu "know your enemy" kind of way.

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It'll kill Fiorina
Sarah Palin is roughly as popular as head lice in California.

I would guess it'll probably hurt the candidates in blue states (possibly significantly), but probably won't in red ones.  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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Not really
Ward lost last night and Haley might not if this doesn't blow over. Palin is no Jim Demint.

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True too
For Martinez in NM

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And Didier in WA
Whoops.

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Haley/Sheheen
Does Haley have 44 instead of 34 in that matchup?

Yep. I was wondering why Sheheen
was doing better in only that match up.  

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I thought prop joe got killed by marlowe...
Also, is it always the same pool of voters asked each question?  

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My mistake
Thanks for catching that!

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