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Election Night Results Wrapup

by: Crisitunity

Wed May 05, 2010 at 3:05 PM EDT


Yesterday's primary elections in Indiana, North Carolina, and Ohio showed two things: one, despite all the huffing and puffing about it being an anti-incumbent year and there being a massive wave of teabaggers ready to take the system down, establishment candidates still won pretty much everything. And two, the enthusiasm gap between the parties that we've been warned about is definitely out there, and numbers from last night back that up.

Indiana: Indiana was the case study for what went wrong with the anti-establishment candidates -- there were just too many of them. In Republican race after race, the anti-establishment votes were split between too many candidates, letting the incumbents or the anointed challengers slip through; had the teabaggers had the presence of mind to unite behind one person, they could have done some actual damage. In the Senate primary, 90s-leftover Dan Coats won with a tepid 39%, beating state Sen. Marlin Stutzman (standard-bearer of the DeMint wing of the teabaggers) at 29 and ex-Rep. John Hostettler (representing the Paulist wing) at 23. As we've wondered openly before at SSP, I have no idea whether that's better or worse for Democrats, seeing as how Coats has access to actual money but also a dump-truck full of vulnerabilities (starting off with the possibility that the NRA might actually support Brad Ellsworth over the Brady Bill-supporting Coats).

The same dynamic played out in a slew of House races. In IN-03, somnambulistic Rep. Mark Souder won with 48% over two opponents, Bob Thomas at 34% and Phil Troyer at 16%. In the open seat race in IN-04, SoS Todd Rokita only cleared 42%, although there were 13 contestants in the race and his nearest rival, Brandt Hershman, only reached 17%. In IN-05, widely disliked Rep. Dan Burton managed to way underperform his 52% from his last primary: he only got to 30%; luckily for him, his opposition was so chopped up that he still survived, with former state GOP chair Luke Messer coming closest at 28%. In IN-08, the NRCC's pick, surgeon Larry Bucshon, barely survived a horde of teabaggers, most of whom coalesced behind Kristi Risk, whom he beat 33-29. And in IN-09, a three-way duel between ex-Rep. Mike Sodrel, establishment pick attorney Todd Young, and teabagger fave Travis Hankins wound up with Young winning with 34%, with Hankins at 32% and Sodrel at 30% (sparing us Baron Hill vs. Sodrel Round Five). The only dominant performance was Jackie Wolarski in IN-02, who picked up 61% of the vote to Jack Jordan's 28%.

As with Coats, it's unclear to me who we'd rather have faced in those races. In each case, it was a choice between an establishment guy with money but who isn't going to excite the GOP base, vs. an outsider without the connections or, possibly, the campaign chops. Maybe Risk's loss will help with Democrat Trent Van Haaften's outreach to the local teabaggery, and in the 9th, while it's sad Baron Hill won't get to face off against the increasingly laughable Sodrel, Young seems to come with his own set of problems (first and foremost, a big recent donation from Don Blankenship, controversial CEO of coal mining company Massey Energy).

North Carolina: The big story in North Carolina was the Democratic primary in the Senate race. Thanks to a fairly strong performance from third-place finisher Kenneth Lewis, nobody cleared the 40% mark, and we're headed to a June 22 runoff between SoS Elaine Marshall and ex-state Sen. Cal Cunningham, which'll be a duel between name rec (Marshall) and money (Cunningham). Marshall finished at 36%, Cunningham at 27%, and Lewis at 17%.

At the House level, in the main race where the GOP is playing offense, the primary is also headed to a runoff. In NC-08, unhinged rich guy Tim D'Annunzio got 37% and ex-sportscaster Harold Johnson got 33%. NC-11 had looked like it was also headed to a runoff, but by night's end businessman Jeff Miller barely cleared the hurdle, with 40.2%. In both those races, the Dem incumbents got mild rebukes from their bases (presumably over their anti-HCR votes), with Larry Kissell getting only 63% and Heath Shuler getting 62%. In NC-06 and NC-10, geriatric Howard Coble (64%) and bombastic Patrick McHenry (63%) also underperformed against fractured opposition. You have to look further downballot to see any bodies falling: five incumbent state legislators lost their primaries (four of them Dems, although some of these look like safe seats).

Ohio: The main event in Ohio was the Senate primary for Democrats, where Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher, as expected beat SoS Jennifer Brunner 55-45. Considering how vastly Brunner was outspent, and the trajectory of the last week's polls, it's actually surprising it was that close. Apparently Brunner's hard work on the ground in some of Ohio's reddish areas in the last weeks of the campaign paid off some dividends, as she put up big leads in the Cincinnati area (Hamilton and Clermont Counties). Naturally, it leaves you to wonder what she could have done if she'd had some actual money.

In the House, OH-02 was the scene of two contested primaries. Rep. Jean Schmidt survived her primary challenge with little trouble, beating Warren Co. Commissioner Mike Kilburn 62-22. On the Dem side, Surya Yalamanchili squeaked out a 41-38 win over David Krikorian, with apparently enough people repulsed by both to give 22% to Some Dude J. Parker. Krikorian continued to be a douchebag even in defeat, accusing Yalamanchili of having played "the race card." The establishment candidates in the two other big GOP primaries both prevailed: in OH-16, Jim Renacci got 49% to 40% for Matt Miller (his third straight time breaking 40% but losing the GOP primary here). And state Sen. Bob Gibbs, the NRCC's recruit in OH-18, seems to have beaten Fred Dailey by about 200 votes (at 21% each), although this race appears headed to a recount. (One would be hard-pressed to call Dailey, the 2008 nominee and former state Agriculture Director, an outsider candidate, although at least he was certainly angry this time around.)

In Ohio, there were also some allegedly hot primaries for the GOP in statewide races, where teabagger favorites were taking on establishment picks, that also turned out to be a big bucket of nothing. In the SoS primary, state Sen. Jon Husted beat Sandra O'Brien 67-33, while in the Auditor race, Delaware Co. Prosecutor Dave Yost (who was the teabagger fave when he was in the AG race running against the guy they really hate, Mike DeWine, but became their enemy when he switched over to the Auditor's race against the guy they liked) beat state Rep. Seth Morgan 65-35.

Finally, as I said at the start, there's the matter of turnout disparities. Reid Wilson points to how only 662K voters voted in the OH-Sen Democratic primary, which was lower than the number of Democratic voters (872K) in the Democratic primary in 2006 (where there was no contested D primary in either the Governor or Senate races). That jibes with the broader numbers we've been seeing about enthusiasm gaps (as with Gallup's recent poll showing 43% of Republicans are "very enthused" about voting, while 33% of Democrats are). The falloff was similar in Indiana, where only 204K Dems participated as opposed to 304K in 2006, although it's worth noting that the Dems were playing offense in 2006 and had contested House primaries, while this year there was really bupkus to get Dems to the polls in Indiana. In North Carolina, 425K voted in the Dem primary. Reid compares this to 2004, where more Dems showed up in the primary, but that may not be an apt comparison as that's a presidential year -- regardless, that too may be an ominous number in the context of the Republican Senate primary, where almost as many, 374K, voted to help Richard Burr dispatch no-name opposition.

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Rural conservatives in IN hate Coats.
Let's hope Ellsworth can get more momentum.  He has the support of gun-owners associations, which will count for something in the rural places of IN.

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So little time, so much to know!


I absolutely agree
that there are tens of thousands of conservative rural and small town voters, especially in southern Indiana, who almost always vote Republican, but are there to be won over by Ellsworth.  Where I think Coats will do pretty well, is in the wealthier country club suburbs, but not among the more downscale conservative voters.

[ Parent ]
Teabaggers and the Social Cons
The Indiana Republican Senate primary clearly showed what happens when the teabaggers and social cons are each other's throats.  

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

what i found most disturbing
In my own state's election (NC), there were more voters in a number of counties for local offices than for senate in some cases it was close to 10%. That shows that folks either don't care who the dem nominee is or they knew nothing about (signaling money problems). I heard anecdotal evidence of the former.

28, male, NC-13 formerly NC-01, 04, 05, 07, 11

You are right on the money
In northern Orange County, most of the voters were excited about local partisan and non-partisan races.  Most of the enthusiasm was for County Commish, School Board, or the NC-04 US House race (GOP only--Price the Dem incumbent had no primary opposition).

What is scary is that many well-educated people didn't even know anything about Elaine Marshall.  She's only been our SOS for 13+ years.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


[ Parent ]
She has a great profile to win in Nov
if she can raise enough money.  

[ Parent ]
On paper, I do agree
Her credentials are very solid.  She's done a great job as SoS, and she deserves tremendous praise.  Elaine's dilemma is that she's maintained a low-profile during her tenure as SoS.  She's been in her current office since 1996, and a sizable majority doesn't even have an opinion of her.

I'm worried that Elaine won't excite the electorate.  I truly like Elaine Marshall, and I hope that should she win the runoff, she will defeat Burr.  However, it really depends on whether she can raise money, inform NC of her solid record as SoS, and then effectively educate the electorate of Burr's crummy voting reocrd.  Burr has the money, so he can go ahead and embellish his own record.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


[ Parent ]
Based on what ??
It doesn't surprise me that many(most?) people haven't heard of a state's Secretary of State.  It is a elected bureaucrat with no power or prestige.  When the name is put in front of them on a ballot, they might recognize it as familiar, but to just ask them straight out, who holds the position, the vast majority couldn't tell you.

Cunnigham may or may not be another Kay Hagan, but at least he has a shot if he wins the nomination.  I don't see the same potential in Marshall.  


[ Parent ]
That kind of sums it up for me
Well stated.

My heart was for Marshall, but my head is for Cunningham.  I also believe he has more potential of defeating Burr in the primary.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


[ Parent ]
My head is not for Cunningham
Why? He outspent her and couldn't win.  His head should be on winning - yet he wants to waste more time and money on this?  It's about him and thats a shame.

28, male, NC-13 formerly NC-01, 04, 05, 07, 11

[ Parent ]
Marshall will most likely lose to Burr
Marshall doesn't have the energy nor the funds to have a realistic chance of defeating Burr.  I don't see it happening this election cycle especially.

Cunningham is from my generation.  He's young, energetic, and intelligent.  Marshall is very intelligent, and she's experienced, but after watching her ad she came off as a grandmother version of "Wonder Woman" in her ads.  

BTW, Cunningham didn't win or lose yesterday.  Cunningham and Marshall are in a runoff because neither could obtain 40%.  It doesn't matter who had the most votes yesterday, but it will matter in 6 weeks.

Cunningham is relatively unknown, but he has more room to grow and will be a great candidate come November.  I plan to support whomever the Democratic candidate will be (I don't like the Fisher/Brunner debates other SSPers have been drawn into as I'd like to keep our NC representation stay clean).

I don't understand your comment "It's about him and thats a shame".  What do you have to back that up?  


40, male, Democrat, NC-04


[ Parent ]
Cunningham's older than me
That's not my point.  Elaine's ad was also...odd.  But I just can't support Cunningham after the whole in-or-out debacle.  I've supported and worked for Elaine for every one of her statewide races since I was a teen in 96.  

Personally, I don't think either one of them has a great shot at winning but she deserves it.  If Cal can only raise $750k by the primary, and have to spend most of there to come in second, then I don't think he has what it takes to win.

When I say its about him I mean that he could bow out, earn some street cred and run again another time.  Yet, he's making us go to a runoff, waste valuable resources (that, as stated, he doesn't even have) to maybe win to be the nominee.  

Cal's had many opportunities to run and should have.  Heck, I've even known him for a long time and liked him before last fall.  He could be a great bencher for us but yet he might blow his one chance.

Elaine deserves this - yes, I mean that.  She had the balls to get in when no one else would and work her tail off.  I have some problems with her campaign but shes a great candidate, a great elected official, a great lady and will be a great senator.

28, male, NC-13 formerly NC-01, 04, 05, 07, 11


[ Parent ]
I can respect your views
I've voted for Elaine in 1996, 2000, 2004, and 2008 for SoS, and I voted for her in the 2002 US Senate Democratic primary.  I've never regretted those votes.  To this day, I'd take Marshall over Erskine Bowles.  I think she's a good candidate for this race too.

The "I'm in, I'm out, no I'm in" scenario doesn't bother me at all.  Kay Hagan did something similar in the 2008 election cycle.  I'm glad she joined the race because Dole is no longer representing us.

As far as the runoff goes, I'd love it if NC would just eliminate runoffs.  I don't like them, it's a waste of resources, and voter turnout is low.  At the same time, it's not Cunningham's fault that NC has a runoff system.  If I was Cunningham, I'd go forward to the runoff especially since individual donors have given money to support the campaign.  If Cunningham had absolutely no chance, I'd say he should drop out.  But he's still a viable candidate and as we well know that in NC, you must have 40% to avoid the runoff.  

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


[ Parent ]
Cunningham was clearly running to get in the runoff
The numbers he got are not an accurate reflection of what he could have achieved in a single-shot primary.  In that scenario, he would have done exactly what Jack Conway is doing in Kentucky -- spend every cent he has, bury himself in debt, go all out.  In this race, he had no reason to finish first; he preserves the meme of his candidacy growing stronger, while giving himself more time to fundraise.

I actually think Cunningham will win the runoff.  And I'm undecided as to which of them I support, so this isn't a partisan statement.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...


[ Parent ]
Let's be realistic...
Neither candidate spent that much on the primary, and this came down to name recognition. As a multi-race statewide officeholder, that gave Marshall the edge in a low turnout race.  

I live in a runoff state too (SC), where the threshold is even higher, 50%.  There is no way in hell a candidate on the short end of 36-28 would drop out of a runoff.  Too much of the vote went elsewhere. Nearly 2/3 of the vote went to someone besides Marshall.  

Typically in a runoff, the top vote-getter is the most well known candidate.  Normal virtually all voters will recognize them.  If they don't hit 50% the first time, they generally are not going to win the runoff.  If 50% of the voters were enthralled with the frontrunner, they would have voted for them the first time.  They didn't vote for them the first time, because they want an alternative.  

When a charismatic D runs, they can win in NC, witness John Edwards and Obama. However, when the two candidates are about equal in that regard, or worse, the D is the lessor, the GOP takes it, for example Bowles 2002, Bowles 2004.  

Personal loyalty has to take a back seat to WHO CAN WIN !! Marshall had a chance once, 2002, and came up very short.  

This very seat might be the one that lets the Dems HOLD the majority come 2012, when a boatload of Democrats will be on the ballot. NC is one of the VERY FEW chances to play offense this year. That has enter into the equation.

The DSCC will back Cunningham if he wins, thus solving any money issues.  If it is Marshall, maybe they will and maybe they won't.

At the end of the day, you have to go with your best chance to win.

 


[ Parent ]
Why do you question whether the DCCC
will back Marshall, if she wins the runoff? Wouldn't they be foolish not to back either candidate who wins?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
It's the DSCC....
and I would be surprised if the DSCC didn't back Marshall in the general election.  At the same time, I don't know how much financial support the DSCC will be willing to offer Marshall for the general election.  I've witnessed considerable voter apathy regarding this election.  Burr is not very popular within NC (or unpopular).  Burr's been fairly quiet, and although it wouldn't hurt the feelings of most if he was replaced, I just don't see a burning desire from within NC to replace him with Marshall.  Elaine Marshall and Richard Burr have maintained a relatively low-profile while holding office.

I honestly believe you can place Cunningham in the category of an unknown quantity.  I don't believe that most North Carolinians have formed much of an opinion of Cal at this time.  Cal's probably a tad less progressive than Marshall, but he has a populist feel that can resonate with the rural North Carolina voter.  He's also quite young.

That being said, I think Marshall will win the runoff.  Lewis's support will more likely than not support Marshall.  With low voter turnout, anything can happen.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


[ Parent ]
I'm not sure "no responsibility"
is quite right. In this economy, I think it's probably just the right kind of responsibility that she's lacking.  

[ Parent ]
Current predix on IN/OH-Sen...
Indiana...

GOP - 40%
Dem - 35%
Indie - 25%

Coats - 87/5/47 = 49%
Ellsworth - 13/95/53 = 51%

Ohio...

Dem - 35%
GOP - 35%
Indie - 30%

Fisher - 93/5/45 = 49%
Portman - 7/95/55 = 51%

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Cool your jets.
The NRSC just released a tasteless web ad against Fisher with homo-erotic themes.  It uses a still image from the 2008 documentary "Swing State" completely out of context.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Interesting analysis
I think you are very close on IN.  Truthfully I couldn't pick anything on your analysis that could be improved.

Regarding OH, I think Fisher will do marginally better amongst the Indies.  I'm basing this on Portman's prior tenure as Director of OMB and the US Trade Rep.  

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


[ Parent ]
I think you are optimistic
On turnout in Indiana and pessimistic in Ohio.

[ Parent ]
See, I think folks are underestimating Ellsworth
Yes, he voted for HCR, and in Indiana, that's probably a setback. Plus, it's an historically red, conservative state, and Coats already has a statewide victory under his belt. That said, I think Coats needs to work extra hard to bring in the Stulzman/Hostettler supporters and, quite frankly, this guy makes Dick Blumenthal look like Barack Obama. I think there will be a shockingly-low turnout among conservatives and the tea party crowd, particularly given Ellsworth is hardly some die-hard liberal. Coats will perform well among the rank-and-file GOP crowd, but probably not so much with more libertarian-minded folk. Now, of course, Coats could surely pick this seat up, and I imagine Cook/Rothenberg will rate this at least Lean GOP for the remainder of the year, but I just think it's wholly wrong to think Ellsworth isn't at least within striking distance here.

As far as Ohio, it's undoubtedly a toss-up and Portman is a very flawed candidate (it doesn't help that Kasich isn't the greatest Gov nominee either), but Fisher's got a cash problem and he's a pretty flawed candidate himself; very dry and probably not as exciting for liberals as Brunner would've been. I've been thinking "so goes Strickland, so goes Fisher," but not anymore. I think Strickland could easily perform 3-5% better than Fisher, especially if his approval remains sturdy.  

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[ Parent ]
These are pathetic numbers
Coats wins when at least 52% of the primary voters think someone else should be the nominee? Young wins with 34%? IN-08?

I'm sure the majority of the losing candidates' supporters will back the nominees in each race, but these primary wins are hardly convincing...  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09


Compared to Bill Brady, Coats practically scored a blow-out


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[ Parent ]
indianapolis mayoral
so this is off topic, but i didn't know where else to put it. does anyone know when the democratic primary will be for next year's mayoral in Indianapolis?

22, male, VA-10

May 2011
I recently heard buzz that former LG Kathy Davis was thinking of a run. I always liked her and would love to see her back in politics.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
I don't get this enthusiam gap stuff, or even why anyone would care
In both Kissell and Shuler's districts the Dem candidates crushed the Rep candidates in total votes.  On an objective planet, both these seats would be on the cusp of LeanDem/LikelyDem, but instead we get comments worrying about some enthusiasm gap... as if an excited person's vote counts more than a bored person's vote.

If the Rep totals were higher than the Dems in these two districts, then we should be worried, but not only was that not the case, the opposite was true.  Very good news indeed in the key districts, in NC at least.


It's official
Pete Visclosky and Mark Leyva will face each other in IN-01 for the fifth straight time.  That means they will have been the only major-party candidates on the ballot for that seat this decade.

I wonder how often that's happened before?  Joe Sweeney has been on the ballot in AZ multiple times against a few different Congressmen (beginning way back in the 1980's with Mo Udall), but to my knowledge he's never faced the same Congressman more than three times.  And Mike Sodrel, in nearby IN-09, was denied his shot at facing Baron Hill for the fifth straight time last night.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...


Longest grudge match
SC-06. Jim Clyburn's opponent was Gary McLeod in 1994, 1996, 1998, 2002, 2004, and 2006. Not sure why he took 2000 off.

[ Parent ]
Wow
And I bet the closest he came to knocking him off was 1994

[ Parent ]
Unbelievable
His website already has a countdown clock for the next time he plans to challenge Clyburn -- in 2012.  Running against the same guy almost every election for two decades -- talk about obsessive.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...

[ Parent ]
Every state yesterday a spectacular testimony to the need for...
instant run-off voting. No majority-disliked candidates winning because of arbitrary strategic horse-race variables that have nothing to do with the preferences of the electorate. No costly 7 week run-offs that suck money and time out of one side for no reason. No disincentive for two qualified like-minded candidates to both run for fear of splitting a vote.

Backward.



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