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HI-01: DCCC Reportedly Giving Soft Support to Case, Won't Rule Out an Endorsement

by: James L.

Tue Apr 06, 2010 at 2:56 PM EDT


This is shaping up to get very, very ugly:

More important, two Democratic sources told POLITICO that the DCCC is working feverishly to prevent a very real scenario in which the two top Democrats split the party vote and enable Republican Charles Djou to capture the heavily Democratic seat in Hawaii's May 22 all-party special election. [...]

Determined to avert that result, the two sources said the DCCC is providing under-the-radar organizational support to former Rep. Ed Case against Democratic state Sen. Colleen Hanabusa, including assistance from DCCC Western Regional Political Director Adam Sullivan.

Those efforts have coincided with the circulation of opposition research within Washington advancing the notion that Hanabusa is a longtime insider who received significant legislative pay raises at a time when the state has suffered through economic hard times - an emerging storyline that led Hanabusa to pull down her first campaign ad touting a vote to cut state legislative salaries and concede that the spot was misleading.

Here's the problem: While the DCCC seems to want to throw all their resources to the odious Ed Case, the local party establishment -- including veteran Democratic Sens. Inouye and Akaka -- is firmly behind Colleen Hanabusa. The Politico cites two unnamed sources who inform them that the DCCC is letting Inouye and Akaka know that they're preparing to back Case, and that "senior Democratic officials" have met with the top brass at AFSCME to convince the union to drop their opposition to Case and ditch Hanabusa.

Worse, the official word from the DCCC isn't doing anything to dispel these reports:

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Chris Van Hollen said Tuesday he wouldn't rule out making an endorsement in the May special election in Hawaii's 1st Congressional District.

As two Democrats - former Rep. Ed Case and state Senate President Colleen Hanabusa - compete against a single GOP candidate in the three-way election, Van Hollen didn't reject reports that the DCCC may swing behind Case's campaign.

"Our biggest focus is trying to expose [Republican Honolulu City Councilman Charles] Djou's Republican record," Van Hollen said after an event hosted by the Washington think tank Third Way. "I'm not saying we won't [endorse], but our focus is on exposing the Republican's record."

For his part, Inouye is holding firm that the DCCC won't pick a favorite in the race, and that he'll fight to make sure they don't make that mistake:

"They're not working for case or for Hanabusa. They're working against Djou," Inouye said. [...]

Inouye told KITV4 that he talked to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi by phone, to ensure the committee is not leaning toward supporting Case. "I said, you better look at the facts and she said she will. So I'm going to talk to her when I get back to Washington," Inouye promised.

However, local ABC affiliate KITV has their own sources suggesting that the DCCC will ditch its neutral approach and formally back a candidate in the "next couple of weeks".

With the local party establishment so thoroughly revolted by the prospect of an Ed Case return to the House, I think the DCCC is on the verge of making a potentially disastrous decision here that will bitterly divide the party with only weeks to go until the special election. If the DCCC really wanted to get involved, they should have done so earlier by convincing Abercrombie not to resign his seat and let this battle instead play out in the Democratic primary. As it is right now, we're looking at the prospect of a very real -- and very fierce -- backlash to ham-fisted efforts from the mainland to anoint a favorite here.

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In which the DCCC forgets the NY-23 special ever happened


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I hereby ban cat fud from the DCCC
and the DSCC and DNC.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Why, again, are they shooting themselves in the foot?
Michael Steele finally has a reason to not be miserable.

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They should focus all their efforts
on attacking Djou then and be productive that way.  There is absolutely no reason they need to endorse.  Just shut-up and let state races play-out.  Outside interference is what costs the GOP NY-23.
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I dont like how political-machine-like Hawaii has become, but Case is just not good enough vote and policy wise.

No, he's not, and he's a corporatist Dem
Not to mention it was likely his divisive and negative campaign against Mazie Hirono that cost her the 2002 Gubernatorial contest. Though perhaps it was a good thing because Hawaii's Democratic machine has apparently gotten the message and backed off a bit.

Hoping Hanneman doesn't win the Gubernatorial nomination either because he is also a bit Conservative for my tastes, especially on labor issues.  


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Very different from NY-23
If anything I think the left making a stink about it looks more like repeating what happened there.

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So you think it's perfectly alright
for the national organization to be subtly sabgotaging the campaign of the local organization, who also happens to be the far more progressive candidate, in favor of a DLC Corpora-Dem because he happens to still have friends in Washington? It would not be a good thing to replace Neil Abercrombie with Case.  

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I do if they have data that suggests
Case is the only one who can win. And I'm skeptical of that. But, then again, why would they even consider endorsing him if such information didn't exist? I'm sorry but I don't buy the "friends in high places" argument.

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And if I were Chris Van Hollen
I had data showed Djou with the lead, I sure as heck hesitate to release it.

However, I'm almost expecting a R2K poll in the field shortly.


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Wow, how ridiculous
Not only are they trying to buck labor and the State Party to back a corporatist conservadem at a time when populist anger is at its highest, but they are threatening to piss off liberals everywhere with this huge FU directed at them, and at a time when they need to keep that group behind them more than ever.

Hyperbole
They have more important things to worry about than looking for ways to piss off the base. I really don't understand where people are coming from here.

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It is a huge slight to the base
Which worked very hard to defeat Case the last time he ran. Regardless Case is an opportunist who is perfectly alright with throwing his party under the bus to get ahead. He did in 2002 by financially breaking Mazie Hirono in the Democratic primary and running a negative campaign against her, painting her as inefficient party insider, and lo and behold those turned into the exact themes Lingle successfully used against her in the General.

Then in 2006 he tried to tar and feather Sen. Akaka as out of touch, ineffective, and too old to serve the state. It got some decent traction, but thankfully he came up short and Republicans didn't have a candidate strong enough to take advantage of the weakened Akaka, (Lingle might have been able to).  


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I understand all that
But I don't think even that is worth, if need be, the risk of Djou winning. And, though there is no way I would ever support him, Case will be a strong candidate for senate in the future whether he is in congress or not.

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I wonder if US CTO Chopra needs a deputy
sounds like a perfect position for Case, who AFAIK is fine on Tech/Net Neutrality issues.

President Obama, if you want to cut down the number of candidates, you should be able to find an open office that appeals to the candidate in question.

(I'd expect to see a poll, perhaps a push poll for Case in the next couple of weeks to back up what it looks like the DCCC is about to do.)


I don't know if we will see it but
there has to be some kind of poll, I'm assuming internal or private, showing Djou within striking distance for the DCCC to take such drastic measures. Otherwise the DCCC's actions make almost zero sense.  

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Inouye says
That the polls are "even" between Case and Hanabusa:

"When the polls came out last December, Colleen was behind. No question about that. About 20 points behind. Today, they're even. That tells me something," Inouye said.

I don't know what he's seen, but there you have it.


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Does he say where Djou is?
In front perhaps?

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I could believe it
I would not be shocked to see 30-25-25-20
(Djou/Case/Hanubasa/Undecided)

The question therein would be overall positives and negatives - Does Case or Hanubasa have a better net score or more room for growth?


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They make
They make zero sense, period. If Case is a crappy enough candidate that he needs help, then they should try to convince him to DROP OUT, not help him. In a two-way race, Hanabusa would wipe the floor with Djou.

This REALLY pisses me off because it's just so effing stupid. Hanabusa's not going to drop out, not with the entire establishment behind her. But if Case wasn't getting DCCC help, he'd have nowhere to turn. And if I were Inouye and state Dems, I'd make it clear to Case that if he does manage to win the three-way race, he's going to get a well-funded primary challenge every cycle...and then follow through.  (I think Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann, for example, could beat Case in a primary in 2012 if Mufi doesn't get the governor's nod...or if he does, Abercrombie can take his old seat back)

Finally, in looking up Case's history, I must say that going from the awesome Patsy Mink to a schmuck like Case has to be the biggest downgrade for a congressional district since...well, it's tough to think of one...maybe some of the 1994 wave folks. So eff off, Case, you a-haole.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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A push poll?
Now people are getting ridiculous.

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Activists are going to go ballistic
without some data backing up what the DCCC may do.

So my question is whether Van Hollen will pull a Rasmussen and leak such data.

If some data is available, then Van Hollen can take back some of the narrative. I'd believe that if Van Hollen channels LBJ, he'd do a push poll.

But of course, this is just sheer speculation. And you may possibly be right, that this is all ridiculous.


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I'm working on the assumption
They would only do this if there was data suggesting they needed to. Hence no need for a push poll.

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Agreed
why would they manufacture a push poll to anoint Case? The whole situation strikes me as the DCCC not sleeping like the DSCC did in Massachusetts. Now I think that the jury is still out as to whether the DCCC is overreacting by trying to put Case over the State Senator but we will see. Also it's worth noting that all this endorse Case business seems to have arisen after Hanabusa majorly stepped in it w/ regards to the legislative pay issue.  

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Again
They wouldn't even be contemplating this without good reason. The party committees exist not to piss off liberals and the netroots but to elect Democrats. Do you really think they wouldn't be doing the opposite if Case was playing spoiler? Van Hollen deserves the benefit of the doubt here.

No he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt on this
Regardless of the good job he did in 2008 or the "meh" one he's doing this cycle, he deserves to be questioned for getting in the middle of a race with two credible Democrats.

And if he can't come up with a good effing answer for why he'd do that, he deserves to be criticized.

Obviously the DCCC doesn't exist to piss off liberals...neither does the Democratic Party generally, but they've managed to do it from time to time, too. But that doesn't mean the DCCC's actions won't do that accidentally, which in this case is something that they could easily avoid.

That's the horrific part of this--it's an unforced error.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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They deserve the benefit of the doubt
When they have more information than we do.

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The DCCC is not immune from making mistakes
Greater availability of information notwithstanding.

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Neither are the left
I think people are skirting the issue of a Djou win here too finely.

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I haven't seen any polling
where he wasn't in a distant third. The real thing the DCCC should be doing here is muscle out the Conservative, bland DLC Democrat in order to clear the path for a progressive Democrat. Or they could have just simply convinced Abercrombie not to resign his seat until after the election.

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Just because you haven't seen it
Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If, say for the sake of argument, the DCCC has polling showing Djou ahead with Hanabusa trailing behind in third and acting as a spoiler would you truly blame the DCCC from getting behind Case?

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Even then, that's a stupid move
Yes I would blame them, because even then that's a stupid move.  

Let's say that the DCCC has an internal that's something like 40-30-15 (Djou-Case-Hanabusa). Djou would have to be getting all the Republicans, plus a bunch of Dem-leaning indies and a good chunk of Democrats.

What they should do in that scenario is hit Djou--HARD--and bring up his negatives so he only gets the (relatively tiny) Republican vote.

That way, Case & Hanabusa don't have to attack and risk a backfire and it would help ensure one of them won.  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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Going hard negative
Seemed to turn people off in MA. Look, seen as though it only seems to be me and a Republican (no offense Jfindl1) I'm willing to concede I may be wrong on this. We really could do with a more recent poll.

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Lol
No offense taken. I admitted to it after all.
I also concur, we really can't know if it is a bad decision or not until after the release of data. For a recent example of the Congressional campaign arms functioning, people didn't know the NRSC sent resources into Massachusetts until the election was over. The money and people they sent was based on a poll which, I'm pretty sure, never saw the light of day and was only mentioned like a week or two after Brown beat Coakley.
My whole point being, that we may not know the DCCC's reasoning until after the this special election resolves itself.  

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Hard negative
We really could do with a more recent poll-- Agree with you on that, definitely. :)

Hard negative can backfire, yes, but usually only in a one-on-one race (when there's one obvious person to blame instead of 2 Dems who are also fighting with each other).  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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"meh" job?
This cycle is sucking for the Dems and I think Van Hollen is doing a great job. He is raising money had over fist and has put forth a great effort to stem the retirement tide. Did I mention the DCCC helped win the NY-20 and NY-23 special elections? I'm a Republican, so maybe I'm missing out on the whole "he doesn't help progressives" angle or something. I would still take Van Hollen as head of my House campaign arm over Pete Sessions any day of the week.  

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People are pissed
Because, with good reason, they hate Case. It is also stopping them from seeing the forest from the trees.

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I don't think that's right
This is a pretty high-stakes seat for a bigger reason: it will give Case a stepping stone to the Senate, which is his bigger goal.

Having Case in the Senate in the place of either Sens. Akaka or Inouye would be an unacceptable outcome.


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That is also a danger
Getting ahead of ourselves. The loss of this seat will do more damage than Coakley losing ever did. There are plenty states with filing deadlines still open after May 22 for instance.

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Disagree on seat's importance
Even the media can do the math on a split vote as opposed to a straight-up loss like Coakley's. Even if Djou gets 40% while Case & Hanabusa get 30%, that's still a strong majority backing Dems.

Granted, it won't look good to lose "Obama's home district" but that's not much worse than Ted frackin' Kennedy's seat. And Djou will only have a few months of incumbency, which will not be enough for him to hold the seat in November (Brown gets 3 years).

Also, Brown ended the filibuster-proof supermajority, while Djou would be just another Republican backbencher in the House.

... And it will be funny/sad/noteworthy when he and Cao both lose and the GOP goes back to being all-white (well, white + Cuban).  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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The Republicans tried to make that argument after NY-23.


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You and I know that
And the media do to but they won't care and unfortunately the American people don't do this kind of nuance. All they will hear is "Dems lose safe seat in Obama's home state". Disaster.

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A few lousy media cycles
would be much less important than a single Senate seat. The fact that the media don't have their priorities right shouldn't skew our own perspective on the relative importance of different events.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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It's the energy going into the '10 elections
I think a loss in HI-01 would put maybe a dozen additional D House seats into serious danger.

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I disagree
I think most people on the Mainland don't pay very close attention to what goes on in Hawaii. I mean, sheesh, a lot of idiots thought that because Obama was born there, he isn't really American!

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Forest and trees
If Case was the only one who could win this seat, I would back him enthusiastically. But he's not. If he dropped out, Hanabusa would slaughter Djou. And I'd like to re-emphasize the point that if nearly all local Dems are all on board with her, the DCCC should respect their decision and at the very least remain neutral.

But yes, I do not like Case. At all. He's got one of those fake smiles that makes me want to punch him the face.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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Maybe Inouye and Akaka deserve the benefit of the doubt here?
I'd match their understanding of Hawaiian politics against Chris Van Hollen's and the DCCC staff.

I've got no knee-jerk problem with the DCCC playing practical politics, but it seems pretty obvious that part of playing practical politics is to listen to major party figures from the state in question. If the 2 Senators, other House member, labor unions, party leadership, Asian community leaders, etc are almost all going one way, then it raises all kinds of problems (practical and optic) if the DCCC goes for the other candidate.

Part of the dynamic is the DC mentality -- since Case has already served in the House, he personally knows many of the key players and has the institutional ties to some of the key House players on this. They are always more comfortable with the one they already know, as opposed to the state legislative leader (especially one 5,000 miles away in DC).

If a national committee weighs in for a candidate opposed by local party activists, it definitely sets up bad blood and controversy on the ground, and doesn't help either of the two Democratic candidates.

In a special election, voting (by mail in this case) is going to be low -- the ability of the local party activists and unions to deliver the votes may matter more than the top line of polls anyway, which basically only really measure general name ID.

I don't believe Van Hollen is doing this to piss anyone off, but I fear that the DCCC is potentially wading into a political minefield that will blow up in their faces.

Unless the polling is absolutely clear that the only way to win is with Case (and certainly none of the public polls seem to indicate that), then the DCCC should save themselves the headache -- help both Case and Hanabusa by vigourously attacking Djou, and don't take sides between the 2 Democrats.  


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To be fair
Their history with Case could easily cloud their judgment while the DCCC is just intent on winning the seat. Contrary to some I think they have done a fantastic job this cycle, mainly through keeping retirements to a minimum.

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Could be...
No doubt that Akaka and Inouye (and Hirano) have good reasons to have a personal grudge against Case. Maybe that's "clouding their judgement".  But they've got no desire to hand the seat to a Republican either (which would be a big embarrassment to them), and they're not very likely do the proverbial cutting of their noses to spite their faces.  

But it also could reflect an important reality of this race - the fact that the Akaka/Inouye machine, the very powerful Hawaiian unions, the various issue and constituency groups, and most of the formal party structure are all lined up with Hanabusa is an important factor in a low turnout special election.

Ed Case starts with a lot more residual name ID than she does, but he hasn't historically shown the ability to put together much of a ground game.  It doesn't help that he has virtually no institutional support and has completely alienated the fairly powerful Hawaii Democratic machine.

How this plays out in a mail-in special jungle winner take all election is hard to know. But I'd suspect that the ability to run a ground game counts for something.

I generally agree with you about the DCCC - I think Van Hollen's been doing a good job and will hopefully have us in reasonable shape for what could be a very tough November. (Although a few short-comings in candidate recruitment - but that's to be expected in a year like this.) Just to be clear, I don't let my ideological preferences trump the practical business of winning elections.

But in this special election, I think the DCCC would  be making a huge tactical error in wading in for one candidate over the other. It would badly backfire on their desire to keep the seat -- Hanabusa's backers wouldn't be likely to back down, and the resulting headlines about a nasty split between local and national Dems would only work to Djou's favour.  


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Van Hollen
My "meh" comment mostly concentrated on his candidate recruitment/selection skills this cycle, which I see as the most important part of his job. Other than that, he's doing a fine job, imho. (and he did well in '08 and the '09 specials, certainly)  

If they stay out of this race, I'd upgrade my 'meh' rating back up to 'good'.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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Ill go from good to great
NY-20 was practically a coup.

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Thought
Throughout this whole mess, I've wondered if the DCCC endorses, could it simply be because Case is a former Congressman?

 


Organize for Hanabusa
Is there anything the netroots and ActBlue can do to help Hanabusa?  If she outraises Case and accumulates even more grassroots support, it's possible that could tip the balance in her favor.  

This is yet another reason no true progressive should EVER give money to the DCCC (or the DSCC).  I think I would rather have Djou in a powerless minority than Case in the majority, with his seniority intact, where he can actually muck things up.


NY-23 again?
Watch Case's endorsement lead to Hannabusa rising, and him dropping out the Thrusday before and endorsing Djou. It would be way different than NY-23 tho, because of it being all-mail.  

Only in your dreams
Ed Case is no Dede Scozzafava -- he remains extremely ambitious and he knows that he would have absolutely no political future in the state as a Republican, or as a Democrat who keeps crossing the party.

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I'm sure he was just
making a joke.  

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probably was
GOPVOTER isn't generally delusional in his comments, so that seems like the only reasonable explanation... my humour radar must have been turned off

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Well
you can't say the DCCC is asleep here like the DSCC was in Massachusetts until it was too late. If a Republican can win Ted Kennedy's senate seat in Massachusetts in the high single digits, then anything can happen. Their making a mistake by backing Case though. They should of pushed Neil Abercrombie not to resign until his term was up so we wouldn't have to deal with this mess. I would love for the more polling on this race though. So we aren't caught off guard by Djou surging in the last week of the campaign.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

And so
I agree, so what the DCCC should be doing to keep this seat is going hard negative on Djou, tying him to Sarah Palin and all those crazy mainland teabaggers. If the DCCC gets involved, that should be the extent of their involvement.  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.

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DCCC
goes on the attack:



19, Male, Independent, CA-12


Sigh
This is really depressing.  It's stuff like this that makes me want to just tune out.

Anyone who is actually paying attention knows that Case and Djou are the ones splitting voters, not Case and Hanabusa.  The DCCC backing Case makes no sense.


If we get polls that back that up
I will be more than happy to eat crow.

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I'm with you on this one
I think you're analysis here is right.  There is no reason for the DCCC to get involved here unless they think the seat is in serious jeopardy of going GOP, and there is no reason to back Case unless it's clear he's the more likely of the two Dems to beat Djou.

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