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FL-Sen: Nowhere to Run for Charlie Crist?

by: James L.

Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 3:16 PM EST


Public Policy Polling (3/5-8, registered voters, no trend lines):

Kendrick Meek (D): 33
Charlie Crist (R): 46
Undecided: 22

Kendrick Meek (D): 39
Marco Rubio (R): 44
Undecided: 18

Kendrick Meek (D): 25
Marco Rubio (R): 34
Charlie Crist (I): 27
Undecided: 14

Charlie Crist (D): 34
Marco Rubio (R): 43
Undecided: 22
(MoE: ±3.4%)

It's clear that the situation is pretty dire for Charlie Crist. Already facing a primary challenge that has proven so overwhelming that Crist has resorted in recent days to ridiculous allegations of back waxing against his opponent, it's looking like the path to victory for Crist in a general election as an indie or a Democrat don't look particularly promising, either.

While he once seemed invincible, Crist has plummeted back down to earth much like his fellow governors around the nation. His approval rating is at a quite bad 35-51, and almost half the electorate -- 47%! -- say they want him "out of elected office" next year. Ouch.

We've seen similar permutations of this race polled before. Back in November, Research 2000 had Crist doing quite a bit better as an independent or as a Democrat, but that same poll also gave him a 59-32 favorable rating. Even if PPP is not quite on the mark with this poll, I'd bet serious money that Crist's favorables have taken a big hit since November.

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great
maybe Meek can win this one, although he hasn't been getting any press

not too shabby
anyone else think that the Meek 39-Rubio 44 numbers arent too bad for Meek?
If he can exploit Rubio's far right leanings and energize the base hey may be able to get enough to win. But 39-44 doesn't look too bad

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Those numbers put the race back on my radar
5% is pretty damn good considering Rubip is on the major upswing and gives me a lot of hope in this race.  Although what I see playing out is Rubio being a major tease in getting us to spend a whole lot of money and then Rubio closing the deal by 5-6%.

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Attention
And Rubio/Crist is getting all the attention right now. Most people in Florida probably don't even know who Meek is or that he is running. Too bad Meek isn't a progressive though.

I'll contribute $400 if Wexler jumps into this race in the next month.


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Wow, and for some reason I thought Meek was DOA
I guess I let rss alter my thinking.  I think I'm gunna donate $10 to Meel today.

I'm so glad rubio will win the primary.  We would be toast if Charlie crist won it.  Nice job red state!

19, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

Bill Hedrick(D) for CA-44


Crist for Dog Catcher!!!!!!!


36, Dem, IN-09

Most undecideds are Democrats.
Referring to the Rubio-Meek scenario.  That bodes well, I think.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

Maybe, maybe not.
I see what you're looking at.  Crosstabs page 19 shows 20% Democrats, 12% Republicans, and 25% Independents undecided...
But, Crosstabs page 11
Rubio - Meeks has 20% undecided liberals, 18% undecided independents, 17% undecided conservatives... the difference is statistically insignificant.  I think we'll have to wait till Meek is known by more than 37% of the state to see whether it breaks more by party or more by ideology.  

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Meek has done an amazing thing
He muscled out a bunch of bigger names from the primary by his early entry and strong fundraising, and then he's continued to rake in the big bucks while the Republicans self-immolate.  He's now going to be facing the weakest possible Republican opponent, after a bloody primary, in a climate that may be a lot better for Dems than Rubio thought when he got in.  Even if Meek loses the race, he'll perform very respectably and set himself up for another run at statewide office later.

All this from a guy whom everyone thought was a lightweight.  I guess Meek has outguessed us all.

Little minds, meet your hobgoblin.


Is there any chance that Sink could put him over the top
Or the other way around?

19, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

Bill Hedrick(D) for CA-44


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Amazingly
Meek is now polling better than Sink.

Little minds, meet your hobgoblin.

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What happened there?
Everybody was talking her up based on ability to fundraise, and she appears to have made no headway at all. Is she the terrible bland candidate I worried she might be, or has the race just not attracted any attention?

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Other Way
Other way around. Sink will need Meek to bring out African Americans in Broward and Miami-Dade if she has a chance.

Actually they match up well. If Sink gets going (a big if) she can pull voters from the Tampa region and Meek can pull voters from SE Florida.


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ANOTHER poll shows Crist even FURTHER behind (34 points)
http://jacksonville.com/news/2...

60 Rubio
26 Crist

I wonder if Insider Advantage did G.E. match-ups too?  


Meek does better against Rubio that Crist (as a Democrat) does.


Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

I'm
not going to say that I want Crist to run as a democrat (I don't) but he probably doing worse than Meek because dems still associate him with the republican party. If he did make the plunge I think he would approve among democrats. Still I don't want him.

36, Dem, IN-09

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I noticed that...
...then I noticed a large increase in the undecideds.  And that represents the risk.  Democrats AND Republicans scratching getting peeved at either someone abandoning their party or someone opportunistically joining.

But in the end the partisans will go back to their corners and Crist will get more independents.  Or perhaps like Specter the switch will seem too self-serving and they'll be turned off as well.  That's the risk.  But at least it would give him a plausible scenario of actually getting elected.


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PPP
Always tend to find more undecideds. Particularly in open seats. They don't push for a definitive response as much as some.

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Look at his approvals, though.
If they're that low and that many people want him out of office, then you'd think his ability to win over undecideds would be limited.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

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FL
Crazy how far Crist has fallen.  I think his best bet is to take a cycle or two off and come back as an Independent (Hopefully not against Bill Nelson).  I would be willing to accept him as a Democrat this cycle.

29/D/Male/NY-01

Ahhahha
I'm sorry, but I live in Orange County, CA and see those ridiculous churches/bumper stckers that said "Christ is risen"

"Crist has fallen" caused me to bust a gut.  Thank you sir.

19, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

Bill Hedrick(D) for CA-44


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Crist has risen, Crist has fallen, Crist will come again?


party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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For the longest...
...I thought Crisitunity's screenname was Cristunity and thought he (?) was advocating a unity ticket with Charlie Crist, something that elicited eye rolls from me until I realized there was another "i" in there.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

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Better version
Crist has risen, Crist has fallen, Crist will run again.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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So when's Easter this year?
Sounds like a good time for an announcement that he's converting....

or is it reincarnating as a Demoncrat?


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April 4


Check out the 2010 California races and help us take back Red California!

27, Indy, Female, TX-03


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