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NY-29: Eric Massa Becomes Unhinged

by: DavidNYC

Mon Mar 08, 2010 at 9:23 PM EST


First it was a cancer scare. Then it was sexual harassment allegations. Now, Eric Massa's traded in his captain's cap for a tinfoil helmet:

Embattled Rep. Eric Massa (D-NY) lashed out in an emotional radio appearance Sunday, accusing Dem leaders of what he suggested was an orchestrated campaign to force his resignation.

"There's a reason that this has all happened, frankly one that I had not realized," Massa said on WKPQ radio on Sunday. "Mine is now the deciding vote on the health care bill, and this administration and this House leadership have said, quote unquote, they will stop at nothing to pass this health care bill. And now they've gotten rid of me and it'll pass."

This is sun-drenched lunacy, of course. Massa originally claimed he voted against the healthcare bill from the left. The only other person to do so was Dennis Kucinich. Every other freshman voted against it from the conservadem point of view, so Massa couldn't possible be made into an example for them.

But whatever - that's all nuts. You think Steny Hoyer would trade all this bad press just to break some balls? That's absurd. Massa wouldn't quit unless someone really had the goods on him. Even if the D-Trip completely cut him off, he's a prolific fundraiser and could well have won re-election against Tom Reed. At the very least, he could have served out his term if he wanted to. You don't bail midstream without a damn good reason. I only wish Hoyer were that all-powerful!

Anyhow, get a load of Massa recollecting his alleged transgression:

"I said goodnight to the bridesmaid," Massa continued. "I sat down at the table where my whole staff was, all of them by the way bachelors."

"One of them looked at me and as they would do after, I don't know, 15 gin and tonics, and goodness only knows how many bottles of champagne, a staff member made an intonation to me that maybe I should be chasing after the bridesmaid and his points were clear and his words were far more colorful than that," Massa said. "And I grabbed the staff member sitting next to me and said, 'Well, what I really ought to be doing is fracking you.' And then [I] tossled the guy's hair and left, went to my room, because I knew the party was getting to a point where it wasn't right for me to be there. Now was that inappropriate of me? Absolutely. Am I guilty? Yes."

Because that's how I always react when a buddy ribs me for leering at bridesmaid.... Ugh, whatever. Why doesn't this guy have the good sense to shut up? This dingbat is going on the Glenn Beck show tomorrow, and I'm sure we'll be hearing more crap like this:

"Eric Massa's probably not going to go back to Congress, because the only way I would go back there would be as an independent. A pox on both parties."

I can't believe I supported this guy through two election cycles, helping to raise six figures for him across a few different ActBlue pages with Daily Kos. What an asshole. Glad he's gone.

Though Massa's not the only one expressing these kinds of Broderite sentiments - Hornell Mayor Shawn Hogan (D) says he won't run, because the "atmosphere in politics today is toxic, fueled by extremism on both sides of the aisle." Can't say I'm unhappy he's declining - doesn't sound like my type of Democrat at all. Fortunately, CQ mentions several other names, some of which are new (to me, at least):

Democrats continue to emerge in the 29th district, which takes in a big chunk of eastern New York state. Democratic Assemblywomen Barbara Lifton and Susan John and Assemblyman David Koon have all expressed interest in the seat. And local Democrats are also now talking up Monroe County District Attorney Michael Green, a former Republican, as a strong possible contender.

No word yet on when the special might be held. Since David Paterson is a man without a future, he can do whatever he pleases, which could include holding the special at some random date, scheduling it to coincide with the September primary, scheduling it to coincide with the general, or not having one at all. Who knows.

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Were there ANY signs before that he was unstable?
Obviously we wouldn't have supported him if we knew he was a fraking nutcase.  But are there any things he said that, in retrospect, forshadowed any of this?

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



I didn't see anything
In the past to conclude that the man was nuts. Seemed pretty stable to me.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Google Sanford Dickert
 Massa has a history.  

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17, CA-06,  


[ Parent ]
Here is a link about that
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...

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17, CA-06,  


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So
Did he actually resign?  It sounded like he was considering walking back the resignation.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

Essentially
But I don't think it's official until the House is back in session tomorrow.

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It Was Official As of (iirc) 5:00 PM EST
He submitted letters to the Clerk of the House and to NY state (I think the SoS).

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Yeah
that's what I understood, but he was making noise about rescinding the resignation this morning.  I guess he didn't or someone in our oh-so-reliable media would have reported it, right?

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

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You left out the best part
how (naked) Rahm supposedly goes to the Congressional gym showers to intimidate members of Congress.

hey, don't knock it
LBJ used to intimidate Congressional leaders by hanging out with them in the sauna.  

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He did? Wow
I knew about the intimidating handshake he would do. I remember the pic of him doing that to TF Green of RI.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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he would
meet with opponents while on the toilet so that they would be awkwarded out and agree to concessions

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

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Shoot I didn't know that
Now I knew LBJ was a master of intimidation, but I never knew he ever went that far.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Oh how that could have backfired on LBJ!
The other man abruptly getting off the toilet and coming out of the bathroom and giving LBJ a 'dirty' handshake because hes upset at him for using those 'tactics'.  

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I'm sure LBJ would take the hand if was for getting a bill passed


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LBJ was supposedly very well-endowed
in a certain area of the male anatomy, and he used that to intimidate people.

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Go Rambo!!!!!!!!!!


Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Saturday Night Live *must* do a skit based on this


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Yes, but who would play Massa?
Oh BTW this rant isn't complete until go goes off about the black helicopters from the CIA circling his house lol.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Look at this video
Of him during the 2006 camapign and his interactions with Rahm Emanuel. It's kind of funny to hear Rahm Emanuel telling someone to be less angry when he's not exactly the most peaceful guy himself.
http://politicalwire.com/archi...

Massa seems really angry at Emanuel, he was complaining pretty harshly about him earlier today:

"Rahm Emanuel is son of the devil's spawn... He is an individual who would sell his mother to get a vote. He would strap his children to the front end of a steam locomotive."

-- Rep. Eric Massa (D-NY), in a radio interview, on the White House chief of staff.




DCCC Didn't Run Any Ads for Massa in 2006
I can't help but suspect that Massa holds a grudge.

And as for what Rahm said, it's pretty standard.  It's OK to be aggressive, but voters get really turned off by people who are often angry.  It's really hard to do angry without having it hurt a candidate.  

It was fairly standard advice.  That Massa got so hot and bothered by it suggests he both had a thin skin and also wasn't very good at listening to the advice of people who knew wtf they were talking about.  


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It may sound hypocritical of Rahm
But lets face it Rahm didnt ever have to worry about re-election in his staunchly Democratic district. Now I guess hed have to worry about an 'image problem' if he were to run statewide or higher but who knows if he ever cared to do that.

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Is Massa wrong?
That's pretty intemperate, but I think I'd offer evens on most of those allegations about Rahm.

I don't think the devilspawn thing is provable, however, and in mitigation I think he'd negotiate a pretty good price for his mother.


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Just goes to show you...
You can't trust anyone these days, whether it is in politics or in any other setting.  

WTF. That's the so-called sexual harassment complaint?!
But Massa said that the staff member whom he made the comments to "never said to me that he felt uncomfortable," and charged that incident was raised by another aide who had witnessed the incident.
"It was a third-party political correctness statement," Massa said.

If Massa's version is accurate, oh brother...

I'm Guessing You've Never Been Sexually Harrassed
Or you're not remembering that this was an employer saying that to an employee.  

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No kidding
Even Massa's own version is very disturbing. I wouldn't be surprised if the truth is a lot worse.

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I don't know which possibility is worse
That he's totally lost it, or that what he's saying is essentially true. As with Howard Beale, I'm not sure they're mutually exclusive.  

I don't think any of this is true
But I think the later statement would be worse.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Since we know it's the former
You needn't worry about this question too much.

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I don't even play Bill Frist on TV
My working assumption is that he's lashing out for reasons not completely known, at least to me.  

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I don't think the reasons are unknown
I think the guy is just frankly off his rocker, thus the lashing out.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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When it comes to other people's mental health
I try to refrain from presuming that there's a problem.  

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I'm not suggesting
He's suffering from a mental malady - despite what my headline says. He may be the most sane man on earth. However, he is saying things which are manifestly the opposite of reality, and that qualifies him as "unhinged." Steny Hoyer isn't made of magic.

[ Parent ]
You seen the people who has served in Congress over the last 15 years?
Traficant, Bachmann, Massa, half of the GOP class of 1994. All people who have proved to us there not fit to serve in Congress because there batshit crazy. So it could be mental health with Massa.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Just a few weeks ago...
the guy was on the Ed Show calling out Cheney regarding GOP criticisms to Obama's national defense strategies. He was great, and his video was even posted on Daily Kos.

Now, it seems like he's a total whackoooooo. What a loser; I don't know what to say. I even gerrymandered my New York map to save him!!!

Boy my state's politics suck.

BTW, DavidNYC, I couldn't agree more with your assessment about the future of New York politics:

Who knows.



NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

Has Anyone Asked Him to Give His $ to the DCCC?
Yeah, probably not a good time to ask...

Probally not
Since he was in a tough fight with Reed, not that it matters because he'll tell the D-trip to go screw themselves rather than give his money to them, but how much did he have on hand?

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Didn't know


22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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lol!!!
he should probably give back at least a 1/3 share for the remainder of the term that he won't finish.  

I kinda knew I didn't like Massa when I heard he was voting from the left against health care.  Now I'm only hoping that Kucinich goes completely insane and we can dump his ass too.  He can sit around and bs with Traficant, it'll be a match made in heaven.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


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Always a bridesmaid
I'm pretty sure he's not being truthful about that lil wedding incident leading to the sexual harassment complaint.

A one-time offhanded comment like that when you and everyone around you has been drinking, and when all your staffers were around (who know you're a happily-married man with kids, supposedly), would be completely excusable if it was a weird, one-time event. At least in this non-lawyer's opinion.

However, if there had been a lot of creepy leering and vaguely sexual comments before, that comment could've been the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back.

Btw, "Broderite sentiments" made me LOL, even though I think we were thinking of different references. "Tousled his hair" is the new "hand on my thigh."

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


Dennis Kucinich
needs to be primaried bad. Did anyone see him on countdown tonight? He sounded like he was the only one who cared about HCR and that he would vote against anything not single payer. Now I fully support single payer, and by all means he should fight for it. However he shouldn't single handily derail HCR. He said he didn't care if his vote was the difference between passing and failing. He is a lose hinge and should get the boot. I wouldn't be surprised if he challenges Obama in 2012, or even runs third party. What district does Jennifer Brunner live in? She could do the job, and clear the field for Fisher. We have a great bench in his district, and Rahm should be looking for some challengers. I'm not trying to sound whiney, but Kucinich is not a team player. Kucinich is a waste of a safe district. I know this is random, but that interview just made me mad!  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

I'll be angrier...
if he ever actually IS the deciding vote.  If that ever happens, and he votes no, then by all means, primary his ass out of there.  But (fortunately?) we haven't had to deal with that situation yet.

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HCR
vote is tentatively set for about 2 weeks from now in the House. He left no wiggle room and made it completely clear he would vote against it.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Yeah Dennis is a waste, I agree
As for Brunner, I think she lives in the Columbus area so she can't primary DK.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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People
elect carpetbaggers all of the time. Hey believe it or not Hillary wasn't always a Yankee's fan.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
your don't have to live in a district to be elected there


[ Parent ]
Really? Thanks for clearing that up


22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
I believe Jennifer Brunner
lives in OH-12

 

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


[ Parent ]
I know he's something of a flake
but apart from his absolute douchiness on HCR, are his other votes similarly douchy?

(BTW, I agree with all of your comment. The Jennifer Brunner idea is intriguing... maybe a face-saving option for her?)


[ Parent ]
Didn't he vote against the SCHIP expansion too?


[ Parent ]
If you mean the one in 2009...
then no.  The only Dems who voted against it were Georgia's Jim Marshall and Alabama's Bobby Bright.  Even turncoat Parker Griffith voted for it.

[ Parent ]
I stand corrected.


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It would help Obama if he ran in 2012
It would destroy all the "socialist" claims once and for all. But agree 100% about Dennis. This is not an isolated incident.

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However
the Jane Hamsher's of the democratic party would probably support him, and if he ran third party that could potentially cost us a lot of votes.

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Kos verus Kucinich
"Dennis Kucinich has always been a little prick, and that hasn't changed.

He's someone who deserves a real primary."

I concur.


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Id donate no doubt
It's just hard to get a coordinated effort and get it to be Dennis the menace vs just one solid competitor.

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I remember in 2008...
...he was about to get primaried while he was "running for president" rather than doing his day job.  That was what got him out of the media chase and back to his district and Washington.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...

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Bench in the district isn't so great
There are some Cleveland city councilmen (one of whom primaried him in 2008), I guess, but nobody who would set the world on fire. It's a very loseable seat in a Republican year.

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If not then let Kucinich's district get the ax come 2012
I mean really, the Democrats should just cut a deal with the Republicans to ax that little weasel's district.

In my eyes, Kucinich is worse than the other Democrats who voted against it simply because he's in a district that we could very easily get a yes vote out of.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Like Michael Dukakis was saying...
when he spoke to us Bruin Democrats at last week's meeting, (paraphrasing) if you're into the kinky stuff, more power to you, but don't run for public office!!!

BTW, Dukakis said that for ANY candidate running for public office who asks for his support, one of the first things Dukakis asks is how many precincts are in that person's district.  If the candidate has no idea, then Dukakis knows this person is simply not serious about the grassroots and the ground game.


I see someone elses misses James Traficant.
Unfortunately Eric Massa is a poor imitation.  I demand the real thing!

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...

Beam me up!!!
   or beam you up. I don't miss Traficant as much as I miss the squirrel on the top of his head pretending to be a hairpiece...

 On a more serious note, yeah this is really sad and weird what is happening to Massa (more what he is doing to himself). I almost went to see him at a fundraiser a couple of weeks ago, but I couldn't get off work on time. A good thing so that I can give the $50 to some other candidates who are actually running...

52, male, disgruntled Democrat, CA-28


[ Parent ]
I wonder if there's a Sister Soljah move in all of this
If the progressive movement in general can as one denounce the rantings of Eric Massa as a man of the irrational left, would that give other progressives credibility

in the same way Bill Clinton's Sister Soljah move gave him credibility in '92?


God what are they putting in the water in NY lately?
 Seriously, first all the stuff with Paterson, then Rangel and now this guy Massa. I know for NY this is not the first time, we have dealt with dysfuntion (Spitzer and all the crap that goes on in the NY state senate). But it seems as of late, it's just wow.

They're taking the heat off of...
South Carolina and Texas and Illinois and Florida and California for "nuttiest state".  For now.  I'm sure South Carolina's just itching to get back in the news.

[ Parent ]
This is so so so delicious.


Ah Massa
Leaving just when we get to like ya
Seriously though, this guy could turn into a major pain in the ass for Dems.
Who wants to bet he runs in the special election as an Indy now?  

The closet
So, did you hear about the Republican California state Sen. Ashburn, who got a DUI on his way back from a gay bar with his Latin trick? You know, Ashburn, one of many Republicans who voted regularly against gay rights and against those for (predominately Latino) immigrants.

But seriously, can I ask for your agreement on one point: the closet makes people simultaneously great and awful politicians, regardless of party. Great because they're so used to lying that they often do it with incredible skill. Awful because they have to be a walking, talking embodiment of a lie.

And the closet also so very, very sad, because politicians who get outed often seem to turn into wonderful human beings* (Jim Kolbe & Steve Gunderson for Republicans, and Gerry Studs & Barney Frank for Democrats...you don't have to agree that Barney Frank is a wonderful human being, just that outing made him a better one). Hell, the "Gay American" governor of New Jersey became a minister who works to help former prisoners transition back into society. Talk about a thankless but necessary and honorable job...

*please note that I don't think this necessarily applies to all, esp. Massa.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
What the holy high fuck is going on here?
Seriously!

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

You Tell Me
I thought all the other stuff he said before was weird. Check this out:

Still wondering why he resigned?


[ Parent ]
Whoa, he is cray cray...
This dude is totally unhinged. In what alternate reality is he the deciding vote on health care reform? I can't wait to hear the crazy that's going to spew when he spends time with Glenn Beck tomorrow (ewwww). He's mighty delusional if he believes he's important enough to be plotted against by Rahm Emanuel and the House Democratic leadership.

There is probably a lot more to the alleged sexual harassment aspect of this story that will emerge in the weeks to come.  



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