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IL-Gov: Quinn Leads Brady and Dillard in First Post-Primary Poll

by: Crisitunity

Fri Feb 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM EST


Victory Research (2/4-7, likely voters)

Pat Quinn (D-inc): 42
Bill Brady (R): 31
Rich Whitney (G): 4
Undecided: 23

Pat Quinn (D-inc): 41
Kirk Dillard (R): 35
Rich Whitney (G): 3
Undecided: 21
(MoE: ±2.8%)

Here's the first post-primary poll of the Illinois governor's race, and it shows Democratic incumbent Pat Quinn in OK shape for re-election, suggesting that he may not have taken on quite as much water during the heated Democratic primary as might be feared. The poll is from Victory Research, a firm I've never heard of before; they claim this is an "independent" poll, although, interestingly, they've done work for both Quinn and Republican state Sen. Kirk Dillard in the past.

As you probably know, the GOP primary has yet to be decided, and probably won't be for several months, which is why they poll two GOPers despite the primary being two weeks old. State Sen. Bill Brady has a 406-vote edge for now, and Quinn should root for Brady to prevail, based on the disparity between Brady and Dillard's performances. The difference between Dillard and Brady, if you delve into the crosstabs, is entirely explicable by how the more moderate Dillard performs in the Chicago suburbs (where he's from, as opposed to the socially conservative, Downstate Brady). Dillard wins with over 50% in the collar counties, while Quinn and Brady are in a dead heat in the collar counties (while, of course, Quinn cleans up in vote-heavy Cook County).

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Cool
Hopefully this is good news for the senate race as well.  

Very, very interesting
Looking into the crosstabs, Quinn isn't where he needs to be with white voters even against Brady. It's time for the DGA to step in and define Brady, NOW.  

i disagree
we don't know if brady is even on the ballot

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I'd give it a 90% chance
No reason to dither.  

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No reason to dither
Unless you only have limited funds with which to attack..... I say now's the time to do opposition research so you have great attack ads ready.  

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agreed
The DGA has a decent amount of money, but we'll probably need it more in other races.

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which is my point
we should not be wasting money and time this cycle unless we are SURE we can benefit(the early primary gave us plenty of breathing space)

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I disagree
If you hit him now when he has no big campaign to back him (and respond) you'll spend a lot less money/time down the road!

If you get a bad initial image everything you do has to respond to that. But if you start out okay then you can fend off negative attacks.

Hit him now when he's in the fetal position. Kill the race so we can spend money later in key areas. Spend $1 buck now to save $2 later.


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we have time to be sure
the benefit of the early primary

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All other things being equal, you want to
define your opponent ASAP.

This is pretty basic.  


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Limited resources and a very expensive media market
Defining candidates early is great, but the DGA doesn't have unlimited resources, and the Chicago market is quite expensive.

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Other Way Around
First off Chicago's expensive market is why you attack now! The attacked candidate will have to put all their money into defending themselves if you. Do it now when they aren't ready to respond.

Plus who says do it in the Chicago media market? Cook county and most of the suburbs will go to Quinn against Brady. Dillard is popular in the suburbs but not Brady. If you want to attack Brady do it around Springfield and Peoria, which are half the price.


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If Brady can't make inroads in the suburbs, he loses period
The statewide battle will be won and lost in the Chicago suburbs, so while throwing ads up in Springfield and Peoria is lovely and all, it won't really do much for Quinn if he ain't willing to put money into reaching lots and lots of people (and he can't accomplish that via Peoria and Springfield).

Plus, Quinn just had himself a pretty strong challenge and I'd put money down that he's got to refresh the campaign coffers himself (and the DGA has other places they have to campaign in, they can't afford a sustained effort in Illinois for very long).

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the don't know/undecided voter numbers are big
Also, seems to me the Repubs caught a break with IL's primary election being held so ridiculously early in the year.
Even if the loser between Brady/Dillard decides to demand a recount, it still likely will be settled in the spring.
And that still makes it a typical length of time for them for a general election campaigning period that most states have holding their primaries in spring & summer.
And gives the winner a good long time for intra-party fence-mending with the loser.

But Quinn hopefully will make use of this time to help rehabilitate his image in a positive way while he's waiting for an opponent. Too bad this poll didn't have a favorable/unfavorable question.


I have never thought about this
But what if a primary battle were as long as Al Franken's battle to get into the Senate?

Could this happen here?

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)


No
Either the courts will jump in and rule because the time is running out or one of the Republicans (Dillard) would dropout. Dillard and Brady both know they can't win if they are in court all summer so why hurt your popularity with Republicans by not stepping down when you won't win the Senate race anyway?

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No
Either the courts will jump in and rule because the time is running out or one of the Republicans (Dillard) would dropout. Dillard and Brady both know they can't win if they are in court all summer so why hurt your popularity with Republicans by not stepping down when you won't win the Senate race anyway?

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Double Post
Sorry for the double post. No idea what happened.

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It happens
But I suppose that if two candidates, from either party, hated their opponent, they would battle it out for an extended period of time.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

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They are so good numbers for Quinn

Polling against Brady, the likely candidate, better than Abercrombie in Hawaii or Brown in California.

The results of republican primary are ridiculous. The weakness of the winner is evident.


Abercrombie?
Has there been any real polling of HI-Gov?

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Yes

Mason-Dixon (+9% for Abercrombie) and months before Research 2000 (+9% for Abercrombie too) poll the gubernatorial race in Hawaii.

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Oh ok
There was no Pollster trendline so I wasn't sure.

...but if Abercrombie was up 9 then Quinn is performing the same as him, not more strongly.

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