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IL-Gov: New Poll Show Tight Races in Both Primaries

by: DavidNYC

Sat Jan 23, 2010 at 4:28 PM EST


Market Shares Corp. for the Chicago Tribune/WGN-TV (1/16-20, likely voters, 12/2-8 in parens):

Pat Quinn (D-inc): 44 (49)
Dan Hynes (D): 40 (23)
Other: 2 (7)
Undecided: 13 (21)
(MoE: ±4%)

These are some pretty remarkable trendlines, though the toplines are very close to a recent Hynes internal, which had him down 44-37. As the Tribune notes, Hynes (the state's Comptroller) has been hammering Quinn on TV, aided by his somewhat surprisingly larger warchest. Hynes's jump is also a tribute to the power of negative campaigning, as this race has turned quite ugly - he's come under fire of late for ads which dredge up hoary old Chicago racial politics. This move may backfire on Hynes, but with the primary just over a week away, there's no doubt that this contest is very much a tossup.

(An aside: For an excellent exegesis on the importance of Harold Washington, Chicago's first black mayor, and how his ascent and untimely death made an indellible mark on the city's politics, I highly recommend Barack Obama's Dreams from My Father. Obama's years as a community organizer in Chicago came during and after Washington's tenure.)

The Tribune also polled the GOP primary:

Andy McKenna (R): 19 (12)
Jim Ryan (R): 18 (26)
Kirk Dillard (R): 14 (9)
Bill Brady (R): 9 (10)
Adam Andrzejewski (R): 7 (6)
Other: 14
Undecided: 17
(MoE: ±4%)

Talk about unsettled - and what a drop for Ryan, the former AG (and not to be confused with disgraced former Gov. George Ryan or disgraced 2004 GOP senate nominee Jack Ryan). I tend to think that Ryan would be the GOP's strongest candidate, but he's suffered at the hands of McKenna (the former state party chair), who, like Hynes, has been blitzing the airwaves. Interestingly, McKenna has also targeted Quinn, which might also help explain Hynes's surge. In any event, much like the Dem primary, this is anybody's race.

The full polling memo is not available online yet, but I'd expect the Tribune to post it here. (It's nice to see the tradmed making better use of resources like Scribd and putting original documents online to allow greater scrutiny.) I also expect that the Trib will release senate numbers soon as well.

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Who's
considered the most progressive of the two, Hynes or Quinn? I'm leaning towards wanting Quinn to win since he's the incumbent and really hasn't done anything wrong so far as I know. I do know both are fairly liberal with both being pro-choice and pro-union and Hynes supporting gay marriage while Quinn only supporting civil unions. ANy thoughts?    

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

Im supporting Hynes because of the gay marriage thing
I didnt even know Quinn was only a supporter of civil unions vs Hynes being for gay marriage.  Like I said in another thread, I see an ad for Hynes saying something like, Hynes, a gay marriage suppoert for IL-Gov.  He's advertised specifically to me pretty much and that's that.

I would worry about a gay marriage vote in IL.  The black vote is not reliable on this issue and they constitute a very important Democratic constituency there.  Anyone know the laws for that?


[ Parent ]
Quinn and Hynes are both proggressive
My sis lives in Ill and I allways tell her who to vote for. I am leaning towards Hynes just because I think he would be a better general election canidate. Quinn's numbers are falling fast, they are close to 39% approval the last I read. Also Hynes is harder to attack, do to there being less of a Blago connection, I know that Quinn was not on speaking terms with him, but still the connection will be an issue. Honestly I think 2010 is going to be a anti incumbdent year and Quinn is an incumbent. So if you want a state without a teabagger Governor then I think Hynes would be better. However I did advise my sis to vote for Blago, and she has been pretty neutral ever since so mabey I should let her pick for herself.

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
minus a g in progressive


Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Has
Quinn done anything worthy of being voted out besides being an incumbent?  

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

[ Parent ]
That
secret prison release thing I believe. Hynes is really chasing after Quinn on that.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Is that really a big issue?
So I take it the local area likes the idea for the jobs while statewide, not so much.

[ Parent ]
No
I could BS you and say the prison thing and Blago, but really the answer is no. However sometimes you have to choose stronger canidate to get done what you want done. Hynes is plenty progressive possibly more on some issues than Quinn is. However I will tell you the truth that we have two GREAT canidates for Governor. But on the other side you have a tea party republican vs. a tea party republican. It is nothing against Quinn, but I would say go with Hynes because he is the best shot we have.

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
It's
kinda sad when good progressives incumbents who get the job done have to retire because the environment is against all incumbents and especially Dems (for example Dodd and Dorgan)    

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

[ Parent ]
True
I hate it as well. However sometimes people are too stupid to relize that they have a good thing going. BTW have made your mind up yet?

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
about
the Illinois Gov race? As long as they're both Progressives then I would be happy with both but hoestly Im still leaning towards Quinn  

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

[ Parent ]
I want Senate primary numbers!
I am hoping Hoffman has been chipping into Alexi's lead (I'm not going to ty and spell his last name, sorry).

I really like Hoffman, and hope he wins, even though I know it is unlikely.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


I Tend to Agree
I have no particular problem with Alexi, but I think that Hoffman could make a really great Senator, as opposed to a simply good one.

[ Parent ]
General
Which of the two of them would be the better candidate to go up against Kirk in the general?

Alexi seemes to be more media-savvy but has alot of baggage that could be exploited by the RNC.


[ Parent ]
I tend to think Hoffman
I know that Alexi leads Kirk a little better than Hoffman right now, however I think that is just because he has more name recognition. I also think that Hoffman would have the benefit of running as an outsider, without the baggage that Alexi has. Plus he is known for being into ethics reform, which is a big plus in Illinois right now. I am a little biased in the sense I really like Hoffman a lot; I think he would make an amazing Senator. Honestly it is too early to say who would make the best candidate. I think that as long as the nominee does not fuck things up too much then we should be able to keep the seat. My prediction is that Alexi wins the primary big though. I should point out that I usually avoid referring to politicians by their first names however I really could not come close to spelling Alexi's last so there you go :).

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
I guess I'd support Quinn
but that's more of a reflection on the fact I know very little about Hynes.  From all reports I've heard, Quinn's done a good job on handling the state and the Blago controversy.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


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