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SSP Daily Digest: 8/27

by: James L.

Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM EDT


FL-Sen: Is ex-Rep. Mike Bilirakis, under official consideration from Gov. Charlie Crist to serve as an interim placeholder in the Senate, taking the appointment process seriously? The St. Petersberg times digs up Bilirakis' submitted questionnaire (.pdf) and says that the hand-scribbled document looks "like he filled it out while driving". He also left some key questions, like "Have you ever been party to a lawsuit?", blank.

IL-Sen: Alexi Giannoulias may claim to be Barack Obama's BFF, but look who just signed up Obama '08 guru David Axelrod's consulting firm to work for his campaign: newly-announced candidate David Hoffman, who yesterday resigned as Chicago's Inspector General.

LA-Sen: Now that Charlie Melancon has made his Senate bid official, state Sen. Eric LaFleur, who was previously courted as a potential Democratic candidate for the race, says that he'll be supporting Melancon for the race.

GA-Gov: Strategic Vision has dipped its barometer back into the Georgia gubernatorial primaries, and finds little meaningful change since last month's poll. For the Republicans, Oxendine leads with 39%, followed by 13% for Nathan Deal and 12% for Karen Handel. In the Democratic primary, ex-Gov. Roy Barnes leads the pack with 45%, followed by AG Thurbert Baker with 29%. Poythress and Porter are still mired in the low-single digits.

NJ-Gov: Chris Christie's once-vaunted rep as a Corruption Fighter™ has taken a pounding this month. Yesterday came another roundhouse kick to the jaw: Back in 2005, Christie was pulled over for speeding and (it turns out) driving an uninsured and unregistered sail barge automobile. Despite the officer writing "NO DEAL" on the ticket, Christie was allowed to drive home and later got some of the charges dropped - it seems he may have scuzzily tried to pull rank as US Attorney. And guess who was with him at the time? None other than former aide Michele Brown, who resigned two days ago. (D)

NM-Gov: Bill Richardson is breathing a sigh of relief with the news that the investigation into allegations of pay-to-play politics under his watch at the governor's office is now officially over with no indictments. Meanwhile, actor Val Kilmer's flirtation with the open seat gubernatorial race is now officially over.

VA-Gov: Creigh Deeds is out with a new radio ad in which one of the narrators anoints him as "that underdog guy", while the Republican Governors Association's Common Sense Virginia PAC is launching TV and radio ads hitting Deeds on wasteful spending. Of course, as Steve Singiser points out, the RGA only a month ago attacked Deeds and the DGA when they formed a similar PAC, calling it a "shadow organization".

CA-02: GOP Rep. Wally Herger, at a recent town hall meeting, praised an attendee who called himself a "proud right-wing terrorist". "There is a great American," Herger said of the man, named Bert Stead. Now Herger is doubling-down, refusing to apologize for praising the man and taking the opportunity to trash liberals for calling their political opponents "political terrorists". The only problem, though, is that HuffPo has the video of Stead identifying himself as a proud terrorist!

CA-45: Riverside County Supervisor Roy Wilson resigned over the weekend due to health reasons, and last night passed away. After Wilson's resignation but before his passing, Palm Springs Mayor Steve Pougnet, running as a Dem against GOP Rep. Mary Bono Back, recommitted his focus to the congressional bid, saying that a run for the supervisor seat is "not at all" being considered.

IL-08: The NRCC is hoping to wrangle Maria Rodriguez, the Village President of Long Grove (pop. 6,735), into a run against now-established Dem Rep. Melissa Bean. Rodriguez says that "it's an interesting proposition" that she's taking under consideration, but Bean is still riding high off a 60-40 win over briefly-touted GOP businessman Steve Greenberg in 2008.

IL-10: The NRCC may be happy to have moderate state Rep. Beth Coulson in the race to replace Mark Kirk, but she'll have company in the GOP primary. Businessman Dick Green, the CEO of Briefing.com, made his candidacy official today, and took the opportunity to lash out at "career politicians".

KS-02: Frosh Rep. Lynn Jenkins, to fellow travelers at a town hall event: "Republicans are struggling right now to find the great white hope." Jenkins' spokesbot shoved foot in mouth even further with this "apology": "There may be some misunderstanding there when she talked about the great white hope. What she meant by it is they have a bright future. They're bright lights within the party." Good luck with that. (D)

MT-AL: Here's something that somehow slipped our notice. Research 2000, dipping its toes into Montana for Daily Kos, tested GOP Rep. Denny Rehberg's approvals and re-elects. Rehberg's sitting on a 46-45 approval rating -- lower than either of the state's Democratic Senators -- and has a 39% re-elect rating (27% say they will definitely vote to replace him, and another 34% say they will consider voting for another candidate). Those aren't particularly formidable numbers.

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I say
good for Bert Stead and Congressman Herger! Stead clearly was making reference to all the name calling by Democratic officeholders, everything from calling those of us who are against this horrible nightmare of government run healthcare Nazis, terrorists, mobsters.

This matter only highlights the actions of these Democrats, and Im happy Herger has the guts not to back down.

A cat can have kittens in an oven but that doesn't make them biscuits.


You really hit that strawman
of "government run healthcare" right in the kisser.  It's not on the table and you know it.  There are plenty of outlets for misleading, right wing talking points.  Please do not try to make SSP one of them.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

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"healthcare Nazis, terrorists, mobsters"
Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, ... with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion


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Troll?
Kyle, I've respected you, but you're disappointing me. You have lately been showing pretty clear signs of trolling. Defending someone for openly calling himself a terrorist - even if it's a polemical statement, which we certainly don't know enough to conclude - is beyond the pale. How would you have reacted if an anti-Bush demonstrator had said he was a proud left-wing terrorist? And if you actually believe that when the government pays for health care (it doesn't run any system except for the Veterans' Administration system), they become Nazis, I suppose you will tell us where the death camps are in the entire rest of the developed world and how Medicare is "exterminating" the elderly, since it's a single-payer system, unlike the already compromised proposals that may be approved by Congress for non-elderly, non-indigent non-veterans? If, on the other hand, you know you're lying, what do you hope to gain by posting this crap here? By even replying to your trolling post, I am violating the principle of "Do not feed the trolls." I expect you to be banned shortly if you keep this up.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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go back to redstate troll n/t


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Tread carefully Kyle
Don't abuse the special dispensation you've been given here. I don't support your banning but I'd advise you to stick to commenting on elections.

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Sorry, Kyle, but
we've had to ban your account. People of all stripes who want to join us in objectively handicapping races are certainly welcome here, but, as we reminded you yesterday, inflammatory right-wing talking points are under no circumstances acceptable here.

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That is such as shame
Oh well can't say he wasn't warned.

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It is a shame
I wonder what got in the water where he lives in the last couple of days, because his last few posts are not typical of the really positive contributions he's made.  But this one was at least the second in the last day or so, and was really inflamatory -- and outside of anything else, just plain dumb.

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He's probably mad
about the drubbing he took from his comment on the Ted Kennedy diary, which I didn't think was that bad.

Seems like a smart, decent guy.

Too bad.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


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Wow
For anyone who missed the short comeback I won't repeat it but suffice it to say he saw nothing wrong in whatever circumstance with someone calling themselves a "proud right-wing terrorist". Sheesh and I defended the guy. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

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Just to be fair
Now I truly deplore the kind of rhetoric the whack-job at the town hall was using; it seemed clear to me that he was speaking in irony.  That is, he was saying that because of his tea-party activities he was being charictarized as such.  Kyle seemed to be doing the same thing.  It was a really really dumb thing to say, but it probably sounded way worse than he meant it.  How about giving that ol' wingnut another chance.  Do it for this old school Bay Area lefty.

26, D, MO-05, Hispanic

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I strongly agree with the banning
not so much for this comment, but his behavior on the Ted Kennedy thread.  
It was low, classless, and disgusting how he trashed someone who is a true hero to many of us on the day he died.  I was really angry with that, it's like a guest you invite taking a dump on your carpet.

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You know I disagree with you on that
I didn't feel he trashed Kennedy and thought his question was legitimate. In the light of his posting of right-wing talking points about Canadian health care and now the trash in this thread, however, I am somewhat inclined to reinterpret his posts in the Kennedy thread as deliberate trolling, which they didn't seem to me at the time.

I still wonder whether someone hacked into his account. We may never know.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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I don't think so
There are two decent comments between the comments on the Ted Kennedy thread and this obnoxious comment.  

I don't think anyone hacked into his account.  I just think he was just another angry Republican who held his tongue for a good while and just couldn't do it any longer.


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You may be right
In any case, it's unfortunate.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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It may have been Teddy's death
Nobody yanked their chain over the years like him. Which is such a shame because Republican politicians themselves seem to have held him in genuinely high affection.

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Maybe two (or more) people using that ID.
And the reasonable conservative left on vacation a couple days ago, leaving the keys with the wingnut unhindered.

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I suspect so
And if his account was hacked or someone else stole his password, I hope to see him back here, with his usual constructive contributions.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Definitely
I seldom if ever agreed with Kyle, but I appreciated his commentary, and that of our other GOP posters.

Thankfully, we still have GOPVOTER (who has really come into his own these past few weeks) and maybe INRepublican (although he hasn't been around much).


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Thank You
:D I'm pretty hated at RS though now. I'm kinda like B. Bennett. I'm super-conservative, but the fact that I am pretty reasonable makes conservatives hate me. If I was elected, I'd probably vote like Jim Demint, but the CfG would target me for what I say. They really piss me off sometimes

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GQR look at NJ GOV again
Nobody does it like Jersey Dems (PDF)

Corzine pulls to within 3.  


Actually Corzine is down by 2
when they poll with Daggett. Rasmussen has Corzine down by 8 but thats with out Chris Daggett. I wish the pollster would just start including Chris Daggett in all their polls, he's on the ballot so there is no reason not to.

P.S. why is this site so slow today?????


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Snail pace
So it isn't just me?

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re Daggett
In the poll, Q.17 indicts Daggett support is quite weak.
And in Q.18 (which if I interpret it correctly was only asked of Daggett voters from Q.15) Daggett votes went Corzine 43%, Christie 46% in a 2 person race. So a fairly even split.
Seems to indicate Daggett won't have much impact, but if the election turns out to be this close, you never know.

BTW, 608 polled. And 100% of them voted last Nov? (Q.4). That's amazing.


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Lots and lots of detail
in the crosstabs here (PDF).

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These crosstabs
look good for Corzine and I trust anything done by James Carville. I think Christie will lead or the two candidates will be even through September and Corzine will barely pull ahead in October and win this race by around 20,000 to 40,000 votes.

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I'd like Survey USA to take a look
If anything just because their crosstabs are easier to read! :)

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Id love to see a survey usa poll except
the issue is that I cant help remembering them showing Franken down by 8 to 10 points in the weeks nearing the election against Coleman. I feel like when there is a third party cadidate involved who can be a wild card in the race, like Chris Daggett in this race, the Survey USA polls tend to be a little off. On the other had, I love how Survey USA shows it by region. I really want to see how Corzine is doing in the Bergen County area.

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Check out whites in the northeast and north central
North central is worrisome compared to the generic legislative ballot.  

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Although
SUSA only really did f up Minnesota and no other state's pollings.  And they consistently f'd it up with the Franken/Coleman race and Obama/McCain.  I still trust them and I think I'll just chalk it up to thy have a screwed up method for polling MN while they got it down for the other states.

Cant help but feel like the switch to cellphone only is maybe a little more predominant as switching to cellphone only (no landlines) is most likely predominant with the 18-30 age group who are highly educated and are at least upper-middle class.  MN has one of the highest college graduation rates so maybe we're just ahead of the curve when it comes to getting rid of landlines and they haven't figured out how to adjust that.

Or something completely different, Im no pollster!


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Yeah
It was probably more a Minnesota thing than something to do with Barkley. I mean they did a good job in Virginia in 2005 with an indie on the ballot.

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Couple Georgia races
Atlanta Mayor:  Racial issues get thrust to the forefront.  Oddly, the beneficiary might be the white candidate as her two black opponents are fighting amongst themselves.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlant...

GA-Gov,GA-09:  Nathan Deal's in trouble.

http://www.ajc.com/news/deal-a...

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


Those are some serious
allegation against Deal.  

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Norwood
Hey TheUnknown285,

How familiar are you with Norwood? I know the council seat is non-partisan (and the Mayoral seat too), but I've heard from conflicting opinions on her party affiliation.


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Norwood's Party ID
I too have heard conflicting reports about her party affiliation.  I've seen one paper (AJC?) say she was a Democrat.  I have heard it through less reputable sources (ie. in the comments section of some AJC story) that she's voted in both primaries.

I've found four donations from her on the Ethics Commission website.  Two were to Democratic State Rep. Margaret Kaiser.  Another was to State Rep. Sheila Jones, also a Democrat.  The final was to Georgia's WIN List, a PAC that is sort of like the Georgia-specific version of EMILY's List, from what I gather (although without the supporting shit like Nikki Tinker).  

I think that makes it pretty clear.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


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Also searched her federal donations.
One to David Scott.

BTW, what I assume is her husband (same address and last name) has donations to Jim Martin's Lt. Governor's campaign and to Olympia Snowe.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


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List
Now that is interesting about Georgia's WIN List and if she's donating to them then yeah, she is a Democrat. They're not only pro-choice, but they're a partisan organization.

It's weird though because she seems to get quite the GOP support. Whenever I hear the Atlanta City Council mentioned by a Republican, it's in praise of her.


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Sounds like racial politics


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I have no idea.
Although, like a commenter said previously, the racial as well as geographic similarities between Norwood and most Atlanta Republicans may be a factor, if only subconsciously.  Republicans have no dog in this race, so they may be flocking to the candidate that's closest to them demographically: a white from the Northern part of the city.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

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Christie and his sail barge
Inquiring minds would like to know - was Michele Brown wearing a gold bikini?

Three points.
FL-Sen: He probably actually was driving.

IL-Sen/IN-Sen: Does this have any more relevance than Evan Bayh having hired Anita Hill a couple of months ago? I still think Bayh is in a much more precarious position than people realize, though he probably won't actually lose absent a 1994-style wave unless the GOP finds a better-funded candidate than Marlin Stutzman.

MT-AL: Rehberg is a sleazebag and would've been extremely beatable if we'd snagged a good candidate in 2008, but I'm concerned we missed our opportunity here, especially if BaucusCare passes, in which case every Democrat in Montana up in 2010 is screwed regardless of what happens elsewhere. It's also a pretty open secret in Montana that Rehberg is running for Senate against Tester in 2012, and if Tester screws up, he may very well win in spite of himself. He plays the 'good cowpoke' extremely well.  


MT-AL
Flipping Montana would have a great visual effect on the House map.

26, male, Dem, NJ-12

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It really would,
despite the fact that MT should really be two districts instead of one, and was up until 1992. It's currently the largest House district in the country, at 950k, and Western Montana has had enough growth that it's absolutely devastated the region's economy AND turned that half of the state pale blue. Once the state's population passes a million, there's no way to argue it shouldn't be split.

If MT were two districts, we could probably pick up a Dem about as liberal as Tester was supposed to be for the western district, assuming he had the blue-collar/agricultural bona fides that voters in that area want. MT-02 would be the Republican seat, and Rehberg could probably keep it for as long as he liked.

Ironically, the biggest opponent of giving Montana extra representation in the House is none other than Senator Merck Max Baucus, who got his current job by first being - you guessed it - the incumbent in MT-01. Watching his back, much?  


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FL-Sen
For anyone looking at the questionnaire, check out page 4, question 26.

"Have you ever been suspended from any office by the Governor of the state of Florida?"

He checked yes but did not put why.

Any idea what that is about?


Could be
that you really shouldn't drive and fill out paperwork at the same time.  

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